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1 minute ago, Behindenemylines said:

Good God yes.  Let's see where this thing goes!  We have 20% of the Intel and try to make 100% of it.  

 

Trust the process!! 

 

 

Yes 1000x.  I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. 

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2 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Yes 1000x.  I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. 

 

I'm in the wait and see approach. 

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IM0 the best bit of info I've seen all night.  It appears that every former Cleveland offensive coordinator is really good once they leave Cleveland.

 

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11125/browns-new-offensive-coordinator-will-be-sixth-in-six-years

Year Offensive coordinator
 
1999 Chris Palmer*
2000 Pete Carmichael
2001-03 Bruce Arians
2004 Terry Robiskie**
2005-06 Maurice Carthon
2006 Jeff Davidson
2007-08 Rob Chudzinski
2009-10 Brian Daboll
2011 Pat Shurmur*
2012 Brad Childress
2013 Norv Turner
2014 Kyle Shanahan
2015 To be determined
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Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

I'm in the wait and see approach. 

 

 Although I understand the fan inside each of us being hopeful of the selection, I don’t see how anyone can be anything other than this. 

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42 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Why Bevell?  Just got canned.

 

Because Bevell is successful and effective... No OC ever got more out of Brett Favre... He ran top 10 rushing offenses his first three seasons with SEA... He made one really bad call, and had one sh_tty season in SEA.. I'll take two NFC Championships, and a superbowl ring anytime over whatever this Daboll guy did.

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3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

it's when the auto correct on my phone fixes a word for me and people find it amusing.  I could go back and edit it but i don't care.

 

 

admit it....you actually thought it was "mute." 

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3 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Yes 1000x.  I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. 

Welcome to fandom.  Your site would be pretty boring if this wasn’t the case.

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Just now, Maine-iac said:

IM0 the best bit of info I've seen all night.  It appears that every former Cleveland offensive coordinator is really good once they leave Cleveland.

 

Year Offensive coordinator
 
1999 Chris Palmer*
2000 Pete Carmichael
2001-03 Bruce Arians
2004 Terry Robiskie**
2005-06 Maurice Carthon
2006 Jeff Davidson
2007-08 Rob Chudzinski
2009-10 Brian Daboll
2011 Pat Shurmur*
2012 Brad Childress
2013 Norv Turner
2014 Kyle Shanahan
2015 To be determined

2015 was John DeFelippo and he is doing well as Qb coach in Phil. 2016 was Pep Hamilton and he is not good in Michigan. But, he’s only the QB coach. Still bad though. 

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Just now, SWATeam said:

Welcome to fandom.  Your site would be pretty boring if this wasn’t the case.

 

Eh.  I don’t consider adult conversation to be boring. I am not a fan of hot takes. Actually, I don’t care what people believe in as long as there is a logical thought process behind it. 

 

Which, if someone craps on this selection because of his offensive passing rankings, yet dismissed the QB out of hand, is not logical. At all. Not even a little. 

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3 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Because Bevell is successful and effective... No OC ever got more out of Brett Favre... He ran top 10 rushing offenses offense his first three seasons with SEA... He made one really bad call, and had one sh_tty season in SEA.. I'll take two NFC Championships, and a superbowl ring anytime over whatever this Daboll guy did.

So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha

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6 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha

 

...............................Daboll couldn't make a HOF'er out of Brady Quinn..........................never be a good OC............I mean his QB was named BRADY!

 

Connect the dots!

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15 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

it's when the auto correct on my phone fixes a word for me and people find it amusing.  I could go back and edit it but i don't care.

 

 

So then pointing out the mute point is moot with you? True that TSW doesn't care about grammar or we'd all get the bute!

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6 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Eh.  I don’t consider adult conversation to be boring. I am not a fan of hot takes. Actually, I don’t care what people believe in as long as there is a logical thought process behind it. 

 

Which, if someone craps on this selection because of his offensive passing rankings, yet dismissed the QB out of hand, is not logical. At all. Not even a little. 

I think there is at least a little given we have had statistically bad passer rankings but have managed 22, 25, and 19 points.  He had a 1,500 yard rusher and averaged 13.2 points per game.  That is frightening.  There's more to it than that.  Taking a step back he had fairly well rounded approaches in Miami and KC.  It seems very possible he could take a step forward here but it is not what all the "throw for 300 yards" crowd is looking for.

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2 hours ago, sullim4 said:

I don't know how I feel about this.  I feel like the offensive-minded coaches that come out of the NCAA are rarely able to translate success at the collegiate level to the NFL.  On the other hand, this guy has been around a lot of winning and he isn't a retread OC.

 

He spent most of his time in the NFL.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

Without name dropping give me one reason to think he's a great hire.  Best I can come up with is that he seems to put together good running games but he appears to be downright horrible with QB's.  Matt Moore is the closest thing he's had to a passing game and even as I say he seems to put together a running game the teams he's had haven't been able to score with the running game so it's kind of a mute point.  Now someone give me a reason other than he's a likeable guy or there were rumors Bilichick was going to hire him.  We all know Brady can basically run the offense without an 0C.

He isn't a retread ........... as long as you forget the 3 times he's failed miserably at it.

 

More like he had really horrible QBs.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Green Lightning said:

 

So then pointing out the mute point is moot with you? True that TSW doesn't care about grammar or we'd all get the bute!

I'm on my laptop now and my spelling is probably even worse.  The o key doesn't work so I have to cut and paste every o, hit ctrl v every time, and use the number 0 for a capital letter.

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1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

I think there is at least a little given we have had statistically bad passer rankings but have managed 22, 25, and 19 points.  He had a 1,500 yard rusher and averaged 13.2 points per game.  That is frightening.  There's more to it than that.  Taking a step back he had fairly well rounded approaches in Miami and KC.  It seems very possible he could take a step forward here but it is not what all the "throw for 300 yards" crowd is looking for.

 

I have to agree. If you're a fan of the  pass-first multiple skill receiver NFL

offenses then this hire doesn't bring the promise of bringing it here. That said, a power running team with a good quarterback, accurate quarterback and solid scheming has always been a good remedy for success in this league.

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1 minute ago, aceman_16 said:

So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha

 

Look, if a 2-14 season with the Chiefs, a 6-10 season with the Dolphins, and a 5-11 season with the Browns make you sprout a big, rubbery one, then by all means, -enjoy.

 

 Bevell milked a career season out of a QB old enough to draw social security... Wilson isn't tall enough for at least two Disneyland rides, but Bevell managed to swing four playoff appearances, two championships. and a superbowl ring out of the guy... Give me that everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

<_<Daboll... -Pssshhht.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

More like he had really horrible QBs.

 

 

Wouldn't it be his job to make that better?  Quinn was a first round pick.  Anderson a pro-bowler.  Cassel played fine in NE.  Moore was the best out of the bunch.  I mean I agree with you that no one there is a guy you'd pick as your starter but he didn't exactly "create" any offense anywhere he went either.  Again I'm over all that.  Seems once they leave Cleveland they get it together.  Maybe we're getting him at the right time.

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1 minute ago, PolishDave said:

 

Bills draft board just added a couple players from BAMA.

Or the opposite... more insight sometimes leads to a drop on the board 

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Instead of zone?

 

 

I hope so, love the big roadgraders.

 

Maybe we can get my boy Cody O'Connell 6'9" 370

 

 

Yes, though the Bills did use both this year. 

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1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

Wouldn't it be his job to make that better?  Quinn was a first round pick.  Anderson a pro-bowler.  Cassel played fine in NE.  Moore was the best out of the bunch.  I mean I agree with you that no one there is a guy you'd pick as your starter but he didn't exactly "create" any offense anywhere he went either.  Again I'm over all that.  Seems once they leave Cleveland they get it together.  Maybe we're getting him at the right time.

 

Can't polish turds.

 

Why hasn't Tyrod gotten better?

 

 

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Or the opposite... more insight sometimes leads to a drop on the board 

Yes, though the Bills did use both this year. 

 

Roman as run coordinator!

 

 

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I suppose we could see some Pats guys come over. Cam Fleming could be a target at RT, and Josh Kline at RG (I know he's a Titan, but former Pat). Even though I hate him, maybe throw a bone to Amendola to come and return punts and be a 3/4. I think Chris Hogan gets cut this year as well. Daboll coached Hogan in Miami as well.  

 

My target for Daboll would be Dion Lewis. Perfect backup to Shady (he has experience doing it) and he is a good reciever out of the backfield as well. 

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4 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

No rush hiring Daboll but the Bills do. Either way dont like the hiring at all. But will take a wait and see because at the end of the day it doesnt matter. 

 

Get a real QB

If history tells us anything, your observations are usually wrong, so this hire doesn’t worry me...

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2 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said:

Sal C this past week...  "The Bills want a veteran play caller"  lol

 

from the Paul Hamilton school of journalism.

 

What do Pegula's kids have to say on the matter??

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