SDS Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Behindenemylines said: Good God yes. Let's see where this thing goes! We have 20% of the Intel and try to make 100% of it. Trust the process!! Yes 1000x. I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: what's a mute point? it's when the auto correct on my phone fixes a word for me and people find it amusing. I could go back and edit it but i don't care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, SDS said: Yes 1000x. I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. I'm in the wait and see approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) IM0 the best bit of info I've seen all night. It appears that every former Cleveland offensive coordinator is really good once they leave Cleveland. http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11125/browns-new-offensive-coordinator-will-be-sixth-in-six-years Year Offensive coordinator 1999 Chris Palmer* 2000 Pete Carmichael 2001-03 Bruce Arians 2004 Terry Robiskie** 2005-06 Maurice Carthon 2006 Jeff Davidson 2007-08 Rob Chudzinski 2009-10 Brian Daboll 2011 Pat Shurmur* 2012 Brad Childress 2013 Norv Turner 2014 Kyle Shanahan 2015 To be determined Edited January 15, 2018 by Maine-iac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said: I'm in the wait and see approach. Although I understand the fan inside each of us being hopeful of the selection, I don’t see how anyone can be anything other than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Why Bevell? Just got canned. Because Bevell is successful and effective... No OC ever got more out of Brett Favre... He ran top 10 rushing offenses his first three seasons with SEA... He made one really bad call, and had one sh_tty season in SEA.. I'll take two NFC Championships, and a superbowl ring anytime over whatever this Daboll guy did. Edited January 15, 2018 by #34fan Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: it's when the auto correct on my phone fixes a word for me and people find it amusing. I could go back and edit it but i don't care. admit it....you actually thought it was "mute." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, SDS said: Yes 1000x. I don’t understand why more people don’t appreciate this fact. There is an asymmetric knowledge of the situation. We are in a huge disadvantage in the decision-making process because we don’t know anything. Yet everyone claims they have enough information to make such decisions. It’s just awful. Welcome to fandom. Your site would be pretty boring if this wasn’t the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, bobobonators said: why cant we sign someone, for ONCE, who specializes in the passing game. FOR ONCE. PLEASE GOD. He’s worked a ton next to Belichick, McDaniels and Brady... I’m sure he knows quite a bit about the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Maine-iac said: IM0 the best bit of info I've seen all night. It appears that every former Cleveland offensive coordinator is really good once they leave Cleveland. Year Offensive coordinator 1999 Chris Palmer* 2000 Pete Carmichael 2001-03 Bruce Arians 2004 Terry Robiskie** 2005-06 Maurice Carthon 2006 Jeff Davidson 2007-08 Rob Chudzinski 2009-10 Brian Daboll 2011 Pat Shurmur* 2012 Brad Childress 2013 Norv Turner 2014 Kyle Shanahan 2015 To be determined 2015 was John DeFelippo and he is doing well as Qb coach in Phil. 2016 was Pep Hamilton and he is not good in Michigan. But, he’s only the QB coach. Still bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, SWATeam said: Welcome to fandom. Your site would be pretty boring if this wasn’t the case. Eh. I don’t consider adult conversation to be boring. I am not a fan of hot takes. Actually, I don’t care what people believe in as long as there is a logical thought process behind it. Which, if someone craps on this selection because of his offensive passing rankings, yet dismissed the QB out of hand, is not logical. At all. Not even a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: admit it....you actually thought it was "mute." It isn't even pronounced mute. If I was going to purposely misspell it I probably would have shot for mewt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, #34fan said: Because Bevell is successful and effective... No OC ever got more out of Brett Favre... He ran top 10 rushing offenses offense his first three seasons with SEA... He made one really bad call, and had one sh_tty season in SEA.. I'll take two NFC Championships, and a superbowl ring anytime over whatever this Daboll guy did. So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Bring in Jalen Hurts ? Hell NO!!! Are you serious??? He flat out sucks as a QB and had to be replaced by a freshman so Alabama could come from way behind and win the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha ...............................Daboll couldn't make a HOF'er out of Brady Quinn..........................never be a good OC............I mean his QB was named BRADY! Connect the dots! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Bring in Jalen Hurts ? Lmao, rather bring in Jalen Rose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: it's when the auto correct on my phone fixes a word for me and people find it amusing. I could go back and edit it but i don't care. So then pointing out the mute point is moot with you? True that TSW doesn't care about grammar or we'd all get the bute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, SDS said: Eh. I don’t consider adult conversation to be boring. I am not a fan of hot takes. Actually, I don’t care what people believe in as long as there is a logical thought process behind it. Which, if someone craps on this selection because of his offensive passing rankings, yet dismissed the QB out of hand, is not logical. At all. Not even a little. I think there is at least a little given we have had statistically bad passer rankings but have managed 22, 25, and 19 points. He had a 1,500 yard rusher and averaged 13.2 points per game. That is frightening. There's more to it than that. Taking a step back he had fairly well rounded approaches in Miami and KC. It seems very possible he could take a step forward here but it is not what all the "throw for 300 yards" crowd is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 So we're drafting Calvin Ridley this year and that Freshman QB who came into the NC Game in 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Something tells me that Belichick and Saban aren't hiring a guy that they think is an idiot. Saban was also willing to pay him $1.2M per. Doesn't mean he's going to be the best every but he's clearly not a guy we "settled" for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, sullim4 said: I don't know how I feel about this. I feel like the offensive-minded coaches that come out of the NCAA are rarely able to translate success at the collegiate level to the NFL. On the other hand, this guy has been around a lot of winning and he isn't a retread OC. He spent most of his time in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: So we're drafting Calvin Ridley this year and that Freshman QB who came into the NC Game in 2 years? I don’t know about that but his deeper insight into the players there will be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Without name dropping give me one reason to think he's a great hire. Best I can come up with is that he seems to put together good running games but he appears to be downright horrible with QB's. Matt Moore is the closest thing he's had to a passing game and even as I say he seems to put together a running game the teams he's had haven't been able to score with the running game so it's kind of a mute point. Now someone give me a reason other than he's a likeable guy or there were rumors Bilichick was going to hire him. We all know Brady can basically run the offense without an 0C. He isn't a retread ........... as long as you forget the 3 times he's failed miserably at it. More like he had really horrible QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: So then pointing out the mute point is moot with you? True that TSW doesn't care about grammar or we'd all get the bute! I'm on my laptop now and my spelling is probably even worse. The o key doesn't work so I have to cut and paste every o, hit ctrl v every time, and use the number 0 for a capital letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know about that but his deeper insight into the players there will be helpful. I do like Ridley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: I think there is at least a little given we have had statistically bad passer rankings but have managed 22, 25, and 19 points. He had a 1,500 yard rusher and averaged 13.2 points per game. That is frightening. There's more to it than that. Taking a step back he had fairly well rounded approaches in Miami and KC. It seems very possible he could take a step forward here but it is not what all the "throw for 300 yards" crowd is looking for. I have to agree. If you're a fan of the pass-first multiple skill receiver NFL offenses then this hire doesn't bring the promise of bringing it here. That said, a power running team with a good quarterback, accurate quarterback and solid scheming has always been a good remedy for success in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Pbomb said: Hopefully he can utilize and bring tolbert to his full potential gag me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know about that but his deeper insight into the players there will be helpful. Bills draft board just added a couple players from BAMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: I'm on my laptop now and my spelling is probably even worse. The o key doesn't work so I have to cut and paste every o, hit ctrl v every time, and use the number 0 for a capital letter. ? Ha. I bow to your sheer will to post! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: So in other words, he was successful with Favre and Wilson and therefore he would make gold out of Tyrod and Peterman..... gotcha Look, if a 2-14 season with the Chiefs, a 6-10 season with the Dolphins, and a 5-11 season with the Browns make you sprout a big, rubbery one, then by all means, -enjoy. Bevell milked a career season out of a QB old enough to draw social security... Wilson isn't tall enough for at least two Disneyland rides, but Bevell managed to swing four playoff appearances, two championships. and a superbowl ring out of the guy... Give me that everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. Daboll... -Pssshhht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: More like he had really horrible QBs. Wouldn't it be his job to make that better? Quinn was a first round pick. Anderson a pro-bowler. Cassel played fine in NE. Moore was the best out of the bunch. I mean I agree with you that no one there is a guy you'd pick as your starter but he didn't exactly "create" any offense anywhere he went either. Again I'm over all that. Seems once they leave Cleveland they get it together. Maybe we're getting him at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Instead of zone? I hope so, love the big roadgraders. Maybe we can get my boy Cody O'Connell 6'9" 370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, PolishDave said: Bills draft board just added a couple players from BAMA. Or the opposite... more insight sometimes leads to a drop on the board Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Instead of zone? I hope so, love the big roadgraders. Maybe we can get my boy Cody O'Connell 6'9" 370 Yes, though the Bills did use both this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Sal C this past week... "The Bills want a veteran play caller" lol from the Paul Hamilton school of journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Wouldn't it be his job to make that better? Quinn was a first round pick. Anderson a pro-bowler. Cassel played fine in NE. Moore was the best out of the bunch. I mean I agree with you that no one there is a guy you'd pick as your starter but he didn't exactly "create" any offense anywhere he went either. Again I'm over all that. Seems once they leave Cleveland they get it together. Maybe we're getting him at the right time. Can't polish turds. Why hasn't Tyrod gotten better? 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Or the opposite... more insight sometimes leads to a drop on the board Yes, though the Bills did use both this year. Roman as run coordinator! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I suppose we could see some Pats guys come over. Cam Fleming could be a target at RT, and Josh Kline at RG (I know he's a Titan, but former Pat). Even though I hate him, maybe throw a bone to Amendola to come and return punts and be a 3/4. I think Chris Hogan gets cut this year as well. Daboll coached Hogan in Miami as well. My target for Daboll would be Dion Lewis. Perfect backup to Shady (he has experience doing it) and he is a good reciever out of the backfield as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: No rush hiring Daboll but the Bills do. Either way dont like the hiring at all. But will take a wait and see because at the end of the day it doesnt matter. Get a real QB If history tells us anything, your observations are usually wrong, so this hire doesn’t worry me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Sal C this past week... "The Bills want a veteran play caller" lol from the Paul Hamilton school of journalism. What do Pegula's kids have to say on the matter?? Edited January 15, 2018 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Lmao, rather bring in Jalen Rose ? Though I would have preferred Jalen Ramsey to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 hours ago, SDS said: The man is a University of Rochester alumni! His intelligence and education cannot be disputed… Go Jackets! And an economics major! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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