YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: I will have some news too on front office shake-up. One long term employee was been given a choice. Reduced role or out the door. More to come No more bad contracts I thought overdorf already had a reduced role. It was insinuated via someone on twitter - “vicious sid” who has a source at OBD - last spring after they brought in the new FO. He was to have gone the way of the Berchtold (special projects). I figured both of them had been in the basement looking for their staplers since they cleaned house. Edited December 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Why would we trade 4 high picks for a guy who is a free agent and no contract in place? Makes no sense. Cousins is not going to give us a discount if we trade for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: I will have some news too on front office shake-up. One long term employee was been given a choice. Reduced role or out the door. More to come No more bad contracts So I guess you're talking about overdorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I thought overdorf already had a reduced role. It was insinuated via someone on twitter - “vicious sid” who has a source at OBD - last spring after they brought in the new FO. He was to have gone the way of the Berchtold (special projects). I figured both of them had been in the basement looking for their staplers since they cleaned house. I think he was reduced to a glorified capologist role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I CANT EVEN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GG said: I think he was reduced to a glorified capologist role? With the guys that were brought in under Beane from Houston and Miami, plus beane’s cap experience, there was no need for Overdorf. It was just a matter of time but he was/is no longer needed. Whaley (pro scouting background) and Nix (College Scouting background) didn’t have the cap experience so he was necessary then. He is redundant but I’m sure they greased the way out the door for him to be nice. whatever the timing, it’s anything but a FO “shakeup” — it’s expected. JO is the only one left from the old Bills other than Russ who more of a PSE employee than a Bills employee. If he hasn’t been publically replaced yet, he’s been replaced privately. Edited December 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: I will have some news too on front office shake-up. One long term employee was been given a choice. Reduced role or out the door. More to come No more bad contracts That makes it sound like offendork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 hours ago, GG said: Rochester, Syracuse, Albany & Boston London and Frankfurt, too, if I'm not mistaken. I like the sound of Dave and Buster's Stadium, good for families and drinking. So we are planning to overpay to get Cousins and then overpay to keep him?! I'm in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: London and Frankfurt, too, if I'm not mistaken. I like the sound of Dave and Buster's Stadium, good for families and drinking. Dave and Busters? Does that mean Rex will be there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Dave and Busters? Does that mean Rex will be there ? Maybe Willis McGahee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Augie said: That all sounds very cool, but what exactly is “east of Buffalo”? If you walk/swim due east long enough you actually end up in Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 What are all the recent "bad contracts" will get someone fired at OBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: If you walk/swim due east long enough you actually end up in Buffalo! Everywhere is east and walking distance if you have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What are all the recent "bad contracts" will get someone fired at OBD? Rex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Everywhere is east and walking distance if you have the time. Indeed! Unless it's South. Then you need to hang a right eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: Until I get more specifics from my source, I won’t post anymore about cousins. All,I can say it will be Costly. People here will roast me if I am not specific. We have the deal but we want one more source to confirm it. Will get another batch of emails soon Let me make a quick call and see if he had a chance to confirm It is a given that Cousins is going to be costly. If a trade is involved, we can kiss some of those high draft picks goodbye. Either way Buffalo will end up paying out in the range of 30 million a year for one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What are all the recent "bad contracts" will get someone fired at OBD? McDermott. Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Rex? Not Overdorf's fault. And really, does he decide who gets paid what? He just tells everyone else what they can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, TigerJ said: It is a given that Cousins is going to be costly. If a trade is involved, we can kiss some of those high draft picks goodbye. Either way Buffalo will end up paying out in the range of 30 million a year for one player. If it's something like Tyrod & Cordy then maybe the rest is just a pick swap. Something like Washington gets Tyrod, Glenn, and our later 1st Buffalo gets Cousins and their 3rd wouldn't be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: If it's something like Tyrod & Cordy then maybe the rest is just a pick swap. Something like Washington gets Tyrod, Glenn, and our later 1st Buffalo gets Cousins and their 3rd wouldn't be awful. So we give up a #1 and a very good, still young LT, and a solid starter QB if not the best backup QB in the league, just for the rights to pay Kirk friggin' Cousins $25m a year for a bunch of years? Edited December 20, 2017 by Kelly the Dog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: So we give up a #1 and a very good, still young LT, and a solid starter QB if not the best backup QB in the league, just for the rights to pay Kurt friggin' Cousins $25m a year for a bunch of years? yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: yep we may even have to throw in Tolbert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: yep Where do I sign?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: So we give up a #1 and a very good, still young LT, and a solid starter QB if not the best backup QB in the league, just for the rights to pay Kurt friggin' Cousins $25m a year for a bunch of years? That would be insane. If Cousins really wants to leave DC, they have little negotiating leverage. Franchising him will cost $35 million, and a transition means no draft picks in return. Their only choices are to start a bidding war and hopefully land a 2nd rounder (a la Alex Smith trade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Where do I sign?!! Dunno. I'll be interested to see if I'm in the ballpark though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Dunno. I'll be interested to see if I'm in the ballpark though. I don't think you are in the same planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: I don't think you are in the same planet. You think we can throw in Dennison? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Not Overdorf's fault. And really, does he decide who gets paid what? He just tells everyone else what they can afford. Yeah I was joking. Terry would have to fire himself... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: You think we can throw in Dennison? Then I would consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I just can’t do it. I can’t watch a couple of years of Kirk Cousins. It will kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: tailing gating - Family family Yeah. Gotta watch Wapner. Yeah. Wapners at 5. Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I just can’t do it. I can’t watch a couple of years of Kirk Cousins. It will kill me. The dude spells his own name wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: He was fired by the Bills he is now an investment banker. He has sources still and they decided to go rogue Well this should be easy enough to confirm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, GG said: That would be insane. If Cousins really wants to leave DC, they have little negotiating leverage. Franchising him will cost $35 million, and a transition means no draft picks in return. Their only choices are to start a bidding war and hopefully land a 2nd rounder (a la Alex Smith trade) Agree! I would say they have almost none. The Redskins have to make the first move. They either tag him or let him go. Cousins and his agent can just sit. I'm pretty sure Cousins does not want to play for them but if they tag him................ Hell yes he will play for 35 million. If the Redskins want to trade Cousins, he doesn't have to make a long term deal.............. He can play under the tag for 35 Million with the new team. Who is going to trade picks/players and pay 35 million? This is uncharted territory and Redskins don't have a play. Not that I want Cousins................... I'd rather have Alex Smith for 1 year while our 1st round QB learns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: The field is going to be 120 yards in length including the endzones. 53 yards wide. Bunch of white lines and a big logo on the 50. Source or it's not happening. 3 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: Cousins would have to agree to a long term deal or no trade. More to come on this in the next week. We have yet to confirm trade package. Only one confirmation to date. Sorry, but this is illogical. Why would he agree to sign an extension and be traded, effectively removing the option for him to run up his price and chose his team? He can't be traded until March 14, the first day of the new league year, which is the day he would become a FA anyway. To keep him, the Redskins would have to PAY the man or tag him - the transition tag next year would be $28,732,320 and the franchise tag $34,478,784 (per Schefter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredonia Frank Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: We are not going to wait til free agency, we will make a play on cousins before than This makes no sense....How can we trade before free agency ...the trade window for league does not start til March 14 the same day free agency begins, March 12-14 Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2017 player contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14. March 14 Trading period for 2018 begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2017 contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 While I’m certainly not convinced, I’m sure a lot of “casual and discreet discussions” happen outside of regulated time periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 No wonder someone is getting fired. Makng FA deals before they are legal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: Until I get more specifics from my source, I won’t post anymore about cousins. All,I can say it will be Costly. People here will roast me if I am not specific. We have the deal but we want one more source to confirm it. Will get another batch of emails soon Let me make a quick call and see if he had a chance to confirm If this is real, I hope your posts don't screw it up for us. I can't go another season with Tryrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Source or it's not happening. Sorry, but this is illogical. Why would he agree to sign an extension and be traded, effectively removing the option for him to run up his price and chose his team? He can't be traded until March 14, the first day of the new league year, which is the day he would become a FA anyway. To keep him, the Redskins would have to PAY the man or tag him - the transition tag next year would be $28,732,320 and the franchise tag $34,478,784 (per Schefter). 22 minutes ago, bbills2018 said: This makes no sense....How can we trade before free agency ...the trade window for league does not start til March 14 the same day free agency begins, March 12-14 Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2017 player contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14. March 14 Trading period for 2018 begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2017 contracts. Yes and yes. The tags have to be entered into by March 6th. A week BEFORE trades. Cousins has all the leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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