The juice Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 “A tie would of been better than a loss” season on the line. This is what he has to say. Get him out of here. Dick Jauron 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ugh I don't like that line of thinking. A tie pretty much insures no shot at playoffs AND a worse draft pick. A tie is the worst possible outcome at this point IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, The juice said: “A tie would of been better than a loss” season on the line. This is what he has to say. Get him out of here. Dick Jauron 2.0 Is he wrong? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I’m convinced that many NFL coaches are simply unintelligent. The game has become more advanced than ever before. I think that eventually coaching will be forced to become more intelligent. I’m happy for the win, but still hate the call. A tie knocks us out of the playoff chase, while a loss does this same. We needed to win this game, but as usual an NFL coach is unaware of statistical probability. 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Is he wrong? Yes because a tie does nothing to help us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I’m convinced that many NFL coaches are simply unintelligent. The game has become more advanced than ever before. I think that eventually coaching will be forced to become more intelligent. I’m happy for the win, but still hate the call. A tie knocks us out of the playoff chase, while a loss does this same. We needed to win this game, but as usual an NFL coach is unaware of statistical probability. Yes because a tie does nothing to help us. You'd better go check on that. Win > Tie > Loss A loss would have been the catastrophic outcome. Tie would be suboptimal, but not a killer. Win best outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Would of? Would of? Paging DC Tom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Tie keeps slim playoff hope alive. A loss kills it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You'd better go check on that. Win > Tie > Loss A loss would have been the catastrophic outcome. Tie would be suboptimal, but not a killer. Win best outcome. Yes, but a tie would be statistically close to a loss given our playoff chances. You are looking at it in black and white terms. Edited December 11, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think McDermott doesnt want to make the playoffs. He secretly hates that we won yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 He's an idiot. In this scenario, a tie is third on the list: Win Loss Tie Idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Steptide said: I think McDermott doesnt want to make the playoffs. He secretly hates that we won yesterday probably because he knows Tyrod is gone next year and he wants to evaluate Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, T-Bomb said: He's an idiot. In this scenario, a tie is third on the list: Win Loss Tie Idiot... That’s not really correct. Techinically, he’s right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 People mess up stats all the time around here. Took grad level stats in college and grad school. And stats would tell you the biggest single variable yesterday was the playing conditions. So given yesterday was a big time statistical outlier you throw it out when looking at data on probabilities. And 3% is greater than 0% but maybe not in a statistical analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Success said: That’s not really correct. Techinically, he’s right A win is better for the playoff's, a loss is better for the draft, a tie is !@#$ing useless for either. Edited December 11, 2017 by T-Bomb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: I think McDermott doesnt want to make the playoffs. He secretly hates that we won yesterday I think he secretly hates Schopp and bulldog and is trolling them to watch their heads explode. It is pretty funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think he secretly hates Schopp and bulldog and is trolling them to watch their heads explode. It is pretty funny. If that's the case I give him credit. Him talking about the tie vs loss wasn't the only thing he was saying that they seemed taken back by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McEgo. Hes smarter than all of us! Given they won, yeah he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You'd better go check on that. Win > Tie > Loss A loss would have been the catastrophic outcome. Tie would be suboptimal, but not a killer. Win best outcome. I really am not used to you being this rational......:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Success said: That’s not really correct. Techinically, he’s right Technically in moral victories he is right. In reality 8-7-1 is not getting in the playoffs. 9-7 itself might barely squeak us in. So without playoffs draft order is the next goal IMO. 8-7-1 is worse for us draft wise than 8-8 is. Edited December 11, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 A tie is only better than a loss because he thinks we can go and beat NE on the road.... McD deals in terms of what is possible, not what is probable. To me that is the hallmark of a coach that will find it difficult to compete against peers that are intelligent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I’m convinced that many NFL coaches are simply unintelligent. The game has become more advanced than ever before. I think that eventually coaching will be forced to become more intelligent. I’m happy for the win, but still hate the call. A tie knocks us out of the playoff chase, while a loss does this same. We needed to win this game, but as usual an NFL coach is unaware of statistical probability. Yes because a tie does nothing to help us. I agree....alot of these coaches are dumb and dumber..watching several different games yesterday there were several more time management mistakes that were unbelievable. Belichick and his cerebral dominance is so amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: I really am not used to you being this rational......:P Someone's gotta be the logic police around here. This place is nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 hey look, it's The Juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, The juice said: “A tie would of been better than a loss” season on the line. This is what he has to say. Get him out of here. Dick Jauron 2.0 He was also quoted today saying he had no idea about wild card tie breakers and how it works. Look I really wanted to like this guy but he truly does seem like a Dick Jaraun clone with a little more signs of life instead of acting and speaking like a corpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Technically in moral victories he is right. In reality 8-7-1 is not getting in the playoffs. 9-7 itself might barely squeak us in. So without playoffs draft order is the next goal IMO. 8-7-1 is worse for us draft wise than 8-8 is. Do you really think he is thinking about the draft right now? Coaches that think like that are drafting players for the NEXT coach....McD is not worried about the draft right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: I agree....alot of these coaches are dumb and dumber..watching several different games yesterday there were several more time management mistakes that were unbelievable. Belichick and his cerebral dominance is so amazing. When does a football coach have the opportunity to not stay unintelligent? I think if you look at the career of a football coach, and the apprenticeship they go through, you're probably not going to get hired if you're not a rockhead jock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, SaviorPeterman said: He was also quoted today saying he had no idea about wild card tie breakers and how it works. Look I really wanted to like this guy but he truly does seem like a Dick Jaraun clone with a little more signs of life instead of acting and speaking like a corpse. Perhaps because he is not a fan and his job is to worry about his team WINNING and now what other teams are going to do? For christ sake...you people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: probably because he knows Tyrod is gone next year and he wants to evaluate Peterman I agree he wants Peterman to play, but how is he gonna swing that this week? Taylor should be good to play this Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, John from Hemet said: Do you really think he is thinking about the draft right now? He says he's always thinking about winning now, AND wining in the future. A tie flies in the face of that, totally... I'm convinced, he's an idiot. 1 minute ago, John from Hemet said: Perhaps because he is not a fan and his job is to worry about his team WINNING and now what other teams are going to do? For christ sake...you people For Christ sake you homers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, John from Hemet said: Perhaps because he is not a fan and his job is to worry about his team WINNING and now what other teams are going to do? For christ sake...you people The hysteria is real. Literal hair on fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: He's an idiot. In this scenario, a tie is third on the list: Win Loss Tie Idiot... A loss on a practical level eliminates the Bills. You are looking at the situation with emotion and not the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Do you really think he is thinking about the draft right now? Coaches that think like that are drafting players for the NEXT coach....McD is not worried about the draft right now No I do not. However, I think its pretty delusional to think you might make the playoffs with 8 wins at this point of the season. Are they not always talking about "best for the team now and the future?" A tie is not what is best for the team. Should always go for the win. I have no problem with the coach thinking punting gave him the best chance to win. Thinking a tie is a good thing is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris from Rochester Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he secretly hates Schopp and bulldog and is trolling them to watch their heads explode. It is pretty funny. That would make me like him even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, BuffaloBill said: A loss on a practical level eliminates the Bills. You are looking at the situation with emotion and not the facts. We all know if they had run on fourth down and not made it the same folks would be screaming that he should have punted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: A win is better for the playoff's, a loss is better for the draft, a tie is !@#$ing useless for either. This sums it up perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Chris from Rochester said: That would make me like him even more Me too. Schopp is such a prick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 How is a tie WORSE then a loss? Have some of you lost your mind? 8-7-1 IS better then 8-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: A loss on a practical level eliminates the Bills. You are looking at the situation with emotion and not the facts. A loss is better for the draft than a tie. A tie = a loss in terms of a playoff birth. Idiots, I'm surrounded by idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Like A Mofo said: How is a tie WORSE then a loss? Have some of you lost your mind? 8-7-1 IS better then 8-8 I'd like this post, if I hadn't hit my limit for the day. I just love seeing people's heads explode. Maybe the herd will thin a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, T-Bomb said: A loss is better for the draft than a tie. A tie = a loss in terms of a playoff birth. Idiots, I'm surrounded by idiots! Who cares about the draft when you are trying to get to the dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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