estro613 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) I just saw an image on NBC after the Ravens loss to the Steelers showing us as the current #6 seed for the playoffs. How is that so? 3 way tie between Ravens, Bills and Chargers all with a record of 7-6 Bills and Ravens both 5-4 in AFC, Chargers 4-5...so the Chargers are out Now next tie breaker is common games (minimum of 4) Ravens: CIN - Win OAK - Win MIA - Win Games Left vs. IND & @CIN Bills: CIN - Loss OAK - Win IND - Win Games Left vs. MIA & @MIA So Ravens are currently 3-0 in common games w/ 2 left & the Bills are 2-1 w/ 2 games left So shouldn't the Ravens be in over us? What am I missing? Someone who understands this please explain, I'm confused. Edited December 11, 2017 by estro613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 No Common Opponents doesnt Kick in until 4 common opponents played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It hasn't been 4 games yet , so the next criteria comes into play, which is Strength of schedule I believe. Let's hope Indy plays Bal like they played Pitt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 just trust the process 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 So Conference record First. How we beat LA then Strength of victory how we beat Ravens Three or More Clubs (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.) Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in conference games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Win and we're in is how I see it.. Gotta handle Mia at home on short week.. 1 week at a time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Someone needs to email NFL.com because they have us as the 8th still with updated standings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6. Buffalo Bills (7-6): Wild card No. 2. The strength of victory of tiebreaker currently puts them in the field ahead of the Ravens, though Baltimore's final three opponents have a combined record of 8-31. The Chargers' poor conference record (4-5) hurts them. ~USA Today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 SD plays KC so one will be a game out if we win, Tenn is an underdog @SF , just win baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Beat the dolphins jimmy G beats the titans maybe somehow the ravens lose Never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 If the Chiefs flip flop with the Chargers, does that hurt the Bills? They did beat NE back in the opener. It's convoluted I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Boatdrinks said: If the Chiefs flip flop with the Chargers, does that hurt the Bills? They did beat NE back in the opener. It's convoluted I'm sure. No you want Chargers to win that division. Have tie breakers against KC and Oak not to metion better draft pick got from KC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ravens could lose, left it all on the field tonight. But we don't even need them to! C'mon Jimmy boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Someone needs to email NFL.com because they have us as the 8th still with updated standings. I notice that the NFL.com standings refer to the seeds as " projected". Not sure how they are arriving at that projection, but it seems the other versions are " live" based on actual current standings if it ended today. This is of course subject to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 So Bills handle business and go Chargers, go Browns and Go Niners next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No you want Chargers to win that division. Have tie breakers against KC and Oak not to metion better draft pick got from KC I'm just not certain how that would affect the strength of victory tiebreak which currently favors BUF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Boatdrinks said: I'm just not certain how that would affect the strength of victory tiebreak which currently favors BUF Because i am thinking the Balt thing wont matter they will get commin opponents here next week. And the strength of victory then doesnt matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) I could see the Ravens losing to Cleveland. The Browns have been playing tough lately. They are integrating Josh Gordon into the offense with some success, and teams tend to have a hangover after the kind of loss Baltimore just endured. Cleveland will play with heart for that first W. I could also see the Titans losing out. Next week they get SF, which looks like an easy win on paper, but SF looks pretty good since Garoppolo took over, and the Titans haven't been that impressive in recent weeks. After that they get the Rams and Jags, buth of which will be heavy favorites. Edited December 11, 2017 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: So Bills handle business and go Chargers, go Browns and Go Niners next week? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Seems like everything is riding on that Jags/Titans game potentially. shoot I have buffalo going 9-7 and titans only winning the last game against Jags and it still drops Bills chances to 0%. then again...ravens I have at 3-0 and chargers at 2-1. this might mess the brain. So best to put the standings away for myself lol until week 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Tennessee is going to fall apart and very likely only finish 9-7. We need to get 9 and things get interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The big question is whether there is a scenario in which we get it at 9-7, because there is no Chance we winin New England. Like none. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: The big question is whether there is a scenario in which we get it at 9-7, because there is no Chance we winin New England. Like none. My only hope is for another blizzard in Week 16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: The big question is whether there is a scenario in which we get it at 9-7, because there is no Chance we winin New England. Like none. I believe all scenarios being discussed assume the Bills are 9-7 with two wins over MIA. There may be a few referring to winning out, but that's not happening in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Browns played the 7-6 Packers very tough. No guarantees. Bottom line is we have a very real possibility of getting in. Gotta handle business. Hope KB is healthy. 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: My only hope is for another blizzard in Week 16. Or a Brady concussion or injury tmrw or next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Browns played the 7-6 Packers very tough. No guarantees. Bottom line is we have a very real possibility of getting in. Gotta handle business. Hope KB is healthy. Or a Brady concussion or injury tmrw or next week? That Steelers Patriots game in going to be a battle royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Win and we're in is how I see it.. Gotta handle Mia at home on short week.. 1 week at a time What short week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Dadonkadonk said: What short week? they play tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Our best hope is Suh cripples Brady or he snaps that sore Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Dadonkadonk said: What short week? They play NE tmrw.. that's 1less day. Plus have to travel to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, JerseyBills said: They play NE tmrw.. that's 1less day. Plus have to travel to us... Gotcha, I thought they meant the game was Sat or Thurs Yes one less day and travel...anything helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 looking at the playoff machine, I just know that we are now fans of the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The best shot to get in at 9-7 is we're going to need the Chiefs to lose to the Chargers and then lose at least one of their next two (Dolphins @Broncos) and the Titans to lose to either the 49ers or Rams and then lose against the Jaguars to finish the season. I wouldn't count on the Ravens or Chargers losing two of their next three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: looking at the playoff machine, I just know that we are now fans of the 49ers. Garappola trade might have saved the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 What I’m thinking is this... 1. New England 2. Pittsburgh 3. Jacksonville -All virtual locks, no way we catch any of them. AFC West: Root for the Chargers to win the division. Pushes the Chiefs out of the division, who we beat head to head. Baltimore: Hope the lose another game somehow (Finale against the Bengals?), but if not, I’m not too worried, they’ll likely be the #5 seed. Tennessee: They play in San Francisco, and then a couple of home games against the Rams & the Jaguars. Could easily see them losing all 3, going 8-8 and missing out on the playoffs. Mariota has been bad and they don’t seem to be in sync and Mularkey seems to hitting all the wrong notes Hopefully we could see a 4-8 of... #4 Chargers #5 Ravens #6 Bills #7 Chiefs #8 Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Baltimore and Buffalo are ahead of the L.A. Chargers based on conference record (Ravens' 5-4 and Bills' 5-4 to the Chargers' 4-5). Buffalo is ahead of Baltimore based on strength of victory (.404 to the Ravens' .381). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 So playing with the playoff machine, it seems that if we go 9-7, we need the Chargers and Jags to win their divisions, the Chiefs to lose at least one game, and either the Ravens or Titans to lose at least two games. We do not make it if we tie either the Titans and Ravens at 9-7. So one of them has to finish 8-8. Either the Ravens or Titans are going to be the 5th seed - assuming no major collapse by Jax. Of course, running the table would help immensely, but I'm not counting on that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: So playing with the playoff machine, it seems that if we go 9-7, we need the Chargers and Jags to win their divisions, the Chiefs to lose at least one game, and either the Ravens or Titans to lose at least two games. We do not make it if we tie either the Titans and Ravens at 9-7. So one of them has to finish 8-8. Either the Ravens or Titans are going to be the 5th seed - assuming no major collapse by Jax. Of course, running the table would help immensely, but I'm not counting on that lol Get to 9-7 and hope 10-6 we are likely in but 3 weeks left and we hold the 6 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: I believe all scenarios being discussed assume the Bills are 9-7 with two wins over MIA. There may be a few referring to winning out, but that's not happening in the real world. Maybe Kiko gives Bills fans an early Xmas present and nails Brady on a blitz Mon nite. I ‘d like the Bills chances with Hoyer as Pats QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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