Another Fan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I know I've heard that as many years as I've been following the Bills. I would think it may be more because it's the Orginal home of the 12th man why this can be a tough place for visitors. I mean we lost to Miami here last December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Wrex and Wrob ! You cannot give up 200+ rushing yds to one RB and win. It is tough for visitors no matter the weather as long as the fans bring their leather lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Cold weather does affect teams from the "Sun Belt" as well as dome teams. Witness the Raiders at Bills in the 1990 AFC playoff game. There's plenty of other games I've witnessed over the decades that supports this. The Bills last year lost to Miami because, I feel, by that time, they started giving up on Bozo Rex & his brother, not because of the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Maybe not on the field. But those were the kind of games I loved coming to years ago. Had to figure out how many layers you could wear and still walk, and how many flasks you could hide between the layers. Who will ever forget Brian Cox the one time the Fish walked out of the tunnel and the snow was blowing sideways? You knew they were done before they even walked onto the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Please look here Bills cannot rely on Buffalo weather to slow red-hot Saints Edited November 7, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Maybe not on the field. But those were the kind of games I loved coming to years ago. Had to figure out how many layers you could wear and still walk, and how many flasks you could hide between the layers. Who will ever forget Brian Cox the one time the Fish walked out of the tunnel and the snow was blowing sideways? You knew they were done before they even walked onto the field. Here, here omf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 It depends what type of team they have. Last year against Miami they let over 200 to Ajayi on the ground, so that kind of defeats the purpose of having bad weather to their advantage. Need to be able to run the ball and stop the run to use it for your advantage in my opinion, and minus last weeks effort against the Jets, they usually are able to do that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I know I've heard that as many years as I've been following the Bills. I would think it may be more because it's the Orginal home of the 12th man why this can be a tough place for visitors. I mean we lost to Miami here last December. Generally I would say the cold is not the most challenging element. The top of the list at the cap is wind and then I would say rain. Rain and wind combined make for the toughest conditions. Teams with a good ground game neutralize the elements. That’s probably why the tuna were successful last December. Cold also becomes very relative depending upon what you are used to. Thirty degrees feels tropical if you are used to ten below. Likewise sixty can feel freezing if you are used to a hundred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 This isnt science. However, the following 2 things hold true: 1. We are better at running the ball than passing. 2. Saints are a dome team and are a much better passing team. Its harder to throw the ball at optimal levels in cold, wet weather. So if Brees’ game is diminished even a little bit, thats a plus. However, we have to keep up our end of the bargain and actually run the ball well. Not have shady run to the left for -4yds on 1st down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Another Fan said: I know I've heard that as many years as I've been following the Bills. I would think it may be more because it's the Orginal home of the 12th man why this can be a tough place for visitors. I mean we lost to Miami here last December. Cold I would say not as much these days. A lot of former players say with today's technology they wish they had gloves or thermal wear that is as warming as what exists today. Rain/Wind/Snow those absolutely because it takes a simple slip by a DB or a WR and its a TD in either direction. Same with fumbles etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 A lot of players are from the southeast, Texas, and California so they are not acclimated to the colder conditions. Additionally, the guys who came from other teams such as Atlanta, Carolina, and other moderate climate teams are not going to favor crappy weather just because they're now Buffalo Bills. I would suspect the weather will work against both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The only time it hurt people was when a MNF crew member joked about the weather if the Bills hosted January playoffs games in 1991. Apparently everyone in Buffalo immediately called to complain and wrote angry letters to the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: A lot of players are from the southeast, Texas, and California so they are not acclimated to the colder conditions. Additionally, the guys who came from other teams such as Atlanta, Carolina, and other moderate climate teams are not going to favor crappy weather just because they're now Buffalo Bills. I would suspect the weather will work against both teams. See Cleveland vs buffalo, 8-0 in the blizzard. There was also a game against the Giants where it poured all game and was windy. All points scored at one end zone. Giants win the game in Buffalo. I'd prefer to say the cold has not advantage vs warm weather/dome teams than the other elements but that's probably also not true. Could be because it didn't impact the visiting team or the lack of good teams we have had in the past 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Wiz said: See Cleveland vs buffalo, 8-0 in the blizzard. There was also a game against the Giants where it poured all game and was windy. All points scored at one end zone. Giants win the game in Buffalo. I'd prefer to say the cold has not advantage vs warm weather/dome teams than the other elements but that's probably also not true. Could be because it didn't impact the visiting team or the lack of good teams we have had in the past 2 decades. Agree that we've had some bad and ill-prepared teams over the past 20 years. My point was that I don't believe most players enjoy playing in the bad weather and do not think the cold/snow is an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Maybe in the good old days there was a bonus. A lot of guys were from an area, played college ball in the area and got drafted to teams more local. A California kid coming to Buffalo to play was a huge advantage. These days people play college ball further from home and get drafted wherever. Plus with free agency being what it is, a guy doesn't spend his whole career in one city. Opens the door to playing in all types of conditions. Nothing to back this idea up, just my own personal hunches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Not sure if it is the weather so much as playing at home Dont discount the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Agree that we've had some bad and ill-prepared teams over the past 20 years. My point was that I don't believe most players enjoy playing in the bad weather and do not think the cold/snow is an advantage. I have no doubt they don't like playing in bad/cold weather. Same way I'm sure some players probably hate playing in Miami in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I think there is no doubt all of our home playoff games during the Superbowl years helped the team get to all those Superbowls, with cold weather playing a role in that. I have heard countless former Bills from those teams say as much, at least in their opinion. Like they knew the weather was helping us back then and cite it as a reason for our success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 no QB will want to sign here with scenes like Sunday. They know their stats will be damaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, jr1 said: no QB will want to sign here with scenes like Sunday. They know their stats will be damaged I tend to agree that it could affect FA overall and think the draft is where you take your future franchise (hopefully) QB. However, that was one game. The weather is mostly ok in season outside of a December game or 2. That type of snowstorm is rare. You could get snow games in a ton of nfl cities. Rodgers, Big Ben andBrady seemed to do ok in cold weather, open air stadiums. As far as Cousins, I haven’t really formed an opinion yet as to whether i want him here. But he played in the Big 10 and those teams wear cold/snow games like a badge of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That article does seem to show a benefit once it's cold enough (below 20 degrees), both at home (.800) and on the road (.714). May not be a huge advantage, but is an advantage nonetheless. Especially against players that are used to Florida weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: That article does seem to show a benefit once it's cold enough (below 20 degrees), both at home (.800) and on the road (.714). May not be a huge advantage, but is an advantage nonetheless. Especially against players that are used to Florida weather. I think it has more to do with the Bills generally not being as good toward the end of the year as they are at the beginning. Armando Salgeruo from Miami who was on WGR earlier this week said it doesnt matter for them because they have a bunch of guys from cold weather colleges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 7:45 AM, Another Fan said: I know I've heard that as many years as I've been following the Bills. I would think it may be more because it's the Orginal home of the 12th man why this can be a tough place for visitors. I mean we lost to Miami here last December. I don't recall it being that cold, windy, or snowing last year when we played the dolphins here. Went to the game with family from Hawaii I don't think any of us had extra layers on. Iirc it was in the 40s but I may not be remembering correctly had a few too many to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it has more to do with the Bills generally not being as good toward the end of the year as they are at the beginning. Armando Salgeruo from Miami who was on WGR earlier this week said it doesnt matter for them because they have a bunch of guys from cold weather colleges. I agree with you. But I don't think it matters they have guys from cold weather colleges. They aren't used to it now. Remember those first 40 degree days in sept/oct? That felt mighty cold. But this coming monday it will be 40 degrees, and will feel balmy. Cold tolerance is not like riding a bike, it fluctuates seasonally. Fact is, those guys have been walking around in mid-70's weather, and it's forecast to be around 27° in Orchard Park on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I tend to agree that it could affect FA overall and think the draft is where you take your future franchise (hopefully) QB. However, that was one game. The weather is mostly ok in season outside of a December game or 2. That type of snowstorm is rare. You could get snow games in a ton of nfl cities. Rodgers, Big Ben andBrady seemed to do ok in cold weather, open air stadiums. As far as Cousins, I haven’t really formed an opinion yet as to whether i want him here. But he played in the Big 10 and those teams wear cold/snow games like a badge of honor. Rare to hit and stay during the entire game. We have those a few times a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: I agree with you. But I don't think it matters they have guys from cold weather colleges. They aren't used to it now. Remember those first 40 degree days in sept/oct? That felt mighty cold. But this coming monday it will be 40 degrees, and will feel balmy. Cold tolerance is not like riding a bike, it fluctuates seasonally. Fact is, those guys have been walking around in mid-70's weather, and it's forecast to be around 27° in Orchard Park on Sunday. I hope that rings true!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It can effect teams mentally that arent ready for it...I'm sure teams that play in it regularly understand what you can and can't do better than teams that don't. When conditions get too bad tho, all it does is even the playing field and reduce the talent gap between teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) The Steelers game last year at home was humiliating. Bills looked like they had never seen snow before. At least this year they looked prepared (as well as you can be for what they faced) Edited December 15, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 8:45 AM, billsfan11 said: It depends what type of team they have. Last year against Miami they let over 200 to Ajayi on the ground, so that kind of defeats the purpose of having bad weather to their advantage. Need to be able to run the ball and stop the run to use it for your advantage in my opinion, and minus last weeks effort against the Jets, they usually are able to do that This was going to be my response. Not just what kind of team they have, but also what kind of team we have. Was home field an advantage in cold, snowy weather when Reggie Bush was making snow angels in the end zone? No, because the Bills defense sucked, and the offense was lacked playmakers. I know that's just one example, and but the bottom line is that what matters most, in any weather condition or crowd effect, is the quality of the teams on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I think years ago it was a factor, bit not anymore. Teams train for different conditions and can be prepared for most weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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