North Buffalo Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So if we get a WC birth for the first time in 17 years, you wont be convinced even though you predicted 5 wins this year? We have to win the division over the Pats to be convinced....way to go out on a limb there. You seem really irritated we are having early success. You sound like a stubborn 13 year old trying to cling on their prediction. Just stop with the insults... too much of that here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I wasn't concerned...just wondering So... now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 You seem really irritated we are having early success. You sound like a stubborn 13 year old trying to cling on their prediction. So now you are saying I am upset because the Bills are winning? My goodness you homers are like irrational crazy women... Have the Bills had early success anytime recently yet still missed the playoff's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 OP, I get the desire to call out the doom and gloomers, but you are in a can't win position when dealing with pessimists. They can predict failure, and if it comes true they at least have the self satisfaction of being right (which is primarily why people argue on message boards in case you haven't noticed). If it doesn't turn out to be true, who cares, the Bills won. They get to have their cake and eat it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So... now what? nothing, carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Beane is still trying to tank it, but the team isn't letting him. He might get desperate and trade McCoy. This guy like many of you simply don't get it. That aside, I predicted early in we would be anywhere from a 5-11 to 9-7 team. Now I think we will be an 8-8 to 11-5 team. The guys in charge are even better than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 OP, I get the desire to call out the doom and gloomers, but you are in a can't win position when dealing with pessimists. They can predict failure, and if it comes true they at least have the self satisfaction of being right (which is primarily why people argue on message boards in case you haven't noticed). If it doesn't turn out to be true, who cares, the Bills won. They get to have their cake and eat it too. It's not up to any of us forum warriors what happens, it's up to the owners, coaches & players. The facts are the facts, this Bills have had a recent history of crashing and burning. Is that a possibility for this season? Is that a more likely outcome than making a playoff run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It's not up to any of us forum warriors what happens, it's up to the owners, coaches & players. The facts are the facts, this Bills have had a recent history of crashing and burning. Is that a possibility for this season? Is that a more likely outcome than making a playoff run? Who knows, but as a fan I am going too err on the side of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Who knows, but as a fan I am going too err on the side of hope. Hope is irrational and unscientific. Like "faith", it has no place in modern culture. Edited October 30, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hope is irrational and unscientific. Like religion, it has no place in modern culture. And probably the greatest quality of the human condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Wondering where the tankers are? On tv and radio, and in newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) And probably the greatest quality of the human condition. The greatest quality of the human condition is curiosity, not hope or faith. Hope & faith are for sheeple to be led around by the nose with. Edited October 30, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I thought only NFL players were sensitive? Who cares if someone said the Bills will suck this year. I personally said 9-7 because i thought McDermott would restore a good defense, but 17 years of garbage gives any fan the right to say the Bills will suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Beane is still trying to tank it, but the team isn't letting him. He might get desperate and trade McCoy. This might be the worst post of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 This might be the worst post of the week. I thought it was pretty funny actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So now you are saying I am upset because the Bills are winning? My goodness you homers are like irrational crazy women... Have the Bills had early success anytime recently yet still missed the playoff's? Yes you seem a little irritated because your prediction looks like it's way off....you even commented twice "I'm not wrong yet". You need to be right desperately because that's so important to you. No, I'm not being a homer. What homer comment have I said? Yes the Bills had early success and fell after that. So what...it's not the same team. I'm not going to continue being negative because of what happened 6 and 9 years ago with a completely different team, coaching staff and ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Right here enjoying the wins hoping against hope it doesn't end up 7-9 I remember that great 2008 season under my favorite Bills coach, Dick "Play Not To Lose By Too Much" Jauron! The Bills started out 5-2 ... and then went 1-8 the rest of the way McDermott is a much better coach than Jauron but I'm not convinced that the way the Bills are being built can produce a regular playoff contender. I just don't think that "buying in" and overachieving can trump genuine talent over the long haul since we're talking pro football not family life or something. Anyhoo, I thought that they were a 5-6 win team but I always said "success" this year would only be either 10 wins or making the playoffs. That looks far more realistic a goal for the Bills than it did back in August or September. They have 9 more games to go. Can they win 5 of them? In September, I didn't see them being able to beat the Broncos, Falcons, Bucs or Raiders. I thought maybe they could win 1 of those, but not all 4. The Bills have yet to play: @ the Jests the Saints @the Chargers @the Chiefs the Patriots the Colts the Carp @the Patriots @ the Carp. It's not unrealistic for the Bills to come up with 5 wins from that group. The only games I don't think they have realistic shots at are @the Chiefs and both Patriots games but then I never thought that they could go into Atlanta and kick azz there, either. However, with the bitter experience of 2008 in mind, I'll believe that they get 10 wins and/or make the playoffs when they actually do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Yes you seem a little irritated because your prediction looks like it's way off....you even commented twice "I'm not wrong yet". You need to be right desperately because that's so important to you. How can you possibly know all this? And yes, the second time I commented that I didn't forget the smiley. You are like a political pundit with a judgmental agenda... Or are you just an irrational woman? You should apply for a position at MSNBC if the former. I just don't think that "buying in" and overachieving can trump genuine talent over the long haul since we're talking pro football not family life or something. I would agree with this, but they are not even to the point where they are adding their talent... Wait a few drafts to see how it works out? Edited October 30, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I seen more 5-11 loafers early on then 4-12. they're still safe, for now... Edited October 30, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I seen more 5-11 loafers early on then 4-12. they're still safe, for now... Safe? From what exactly? Are pre-season picks legally contractual in some manner? If that's the case the 11-5 homers of the last 17 years must be in serious debt. Edited October 30, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Ah, I see I forgot to put a smiley emoji on my original post. No, I don't need my predictions to be right, they just have been the last couple decades... In no way do I want the Bills to lose so my pre-season picks are correct, that's silly. I'm not a gambler so I gain nothing in that scenario. I will say, that I am not yet convinced. I need to see this team actually beat the Patriots when it matters. When they beat Brady to win the division, my ears will perk up after about 20 years. Quit beating on T-Bomb. You either want knowledgeable posters to make their predictions in the preseason, and then back them up with sensible statements; or this becomes a feel good safe place to hide from reality. Anybody who looked at this team on sept 1st and prognosticated more than 5-6 wins was dreaming in technicolor. Revisionist history is a wonderful thing, or so it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 How can you possibly know all this? And yes, the second time I commented that I didn't forget the smiley. You are like a political pundit with a judgmental agenda... You should apply for a position at MSNBC. LOL...you don't have an agenda? Calling our your negativity and now I'm a political pundit? That relates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Safe? From what exactly? Are pre-season picks legally contractual in some manner? If that's the case the 11-5 homers of the last 17 years must be in serious debt. Hey, you're not wrong yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 LOL...you don't have an agenda? Calling our your negativity and now I'm a political pundit? That relates. So a pre-season prediction of 5-11 is pure irrational "negativity"? Is that how you see sports? Hey, you're not wrong yet... And that's what I tried to be sarcastic about but was posting at like 5:30 AM and forgot the emoji and here we are, lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I said 5 win team, I'm not wrong yet. Let's see what happens starting Thurs night. Normally, a game like the upcoming Jets game is where the franchise would falter, and finish with 6/7 wins on the season. Right...because everytime they prove you wrong you just keep moving the bar...oh they won here, well, they need to win this one otherwise its the same old same old... Just admit you were wrong and keep it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So a pre-season prediction of 5-11 is pure irrational "negativity"? Is that how you see sports? And that's what I tried to be sarcastic about but was posting at like 5:30 AM and forgot the emoji and here we are, lmao. No, that's not what I'm saying and that's not how I see sports. You're still trying to tie in what happened in '08 and '11 as what's going to happen this year....you keep repeating it. You won't be "convinced" unless we win the division. Lofty expectations for a team you thought would win 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Right...because everytime they prove you wrong you just keep moving the bar...oh they won here, well, they need to win this one otherwise its the same old same old... Just admit you were wrong and keep it moving. Wrong about what exactly? I'm on these forums to have fun, but it seems a lot of you are not here for the same reason lol. Sports are not meant to be taken so seriously. The attempt at sarcasm was to take a shot at myself and state I'm not wrong yet, but it seems so many of you are so full of hate, you can't possibly see it as that. "Negative" Bills fans are your enemy number one and must taken to the woodshed. Holy crap, it's Monday morning, calm the !@#$ down. As far as what the Bills have to prove to me before I feel they are a different franchise may be a higher bar than some of you, I'm not going to apologize for that. Edited October 30, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I thought only NFL players were sensitive? Who cares if someone said the Bills will suck this year. I personally said 9-7 because i thought McDermott would restore a good defense, but 17 years of garbage gives any fan the right to say the Bills will suck. At some point you would think people would look at what's in front of them instead of behind. Too much backwards-looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 This is silly. I said 4-12 / 5-11 after the trades..... but still liked McDermott/Beane and the direction they are going. It felt like a final end to the continuous era of Levy-Brandon-Nix-Whaley, which is what they have needed since the day they sent Donahoe packing. But its not like I put anything on the line, root for them to lose to reach my prediction (maybe if they did I could post an awesome thread like this one and brag and antagonize? That would be uh, awesome I guess, along with another waste of season ticket money. Take that!) Anyone besides the complete optimists thought this team had a good shot at getting to 5-2. I didnt realize that McDermott would resonate so deeply with players in year one. I liked his messaging and his vision of bringing in players who do the homework and hone a mental edge... Didn't think we had so much in-house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Ah, I see I forgot to put a smiley emoji on my original post. No, I don't need my predictions to be right, they just have been the last couple decades... In no way do I want the Bills to lose so my pre-season picks are correct, that's silly. I'm not a gambler so I gain nothing in that scenario. I will say, that I am not yet convinced. I need to see this team actually beat the Patriots when it matters. When they beat Brady to win the division, my ears will perk up after about 20 years. Cool. We should all be pretty psyched right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 This is silly. I said 4-12 / 5-11 after the trades..... but still liked McDermott/Beane and the direction they are going. It felt like a final end to the continuous era of Levy-Brandon-Nix-Whaley, which is what they have needed since the day they sent Donahoe packing. But its not like I put anything on the line, root for them to lose to reach my prediction (maybe if they did I could post an awesome thread like this one and brag and antagonize? That would be uh, awesome I guess, along with another waste of season ticket money. Take that!) Anyone besides the complete optimists thought this team had a good shot at getting to 5-2. I didnt realize that McDermott would resonate so deeply with players in year one. I liked his messaging and his vision of bringing in players who do the homework and hone a mental edge... Didn't think we had so much in-house. We don't know what will happen from now to week 17 but it's okay to enjoy it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Did you think you "knew football" better than the rest of us? Really? Wait, are you a "realist"? Are you gonna sit in front of me at a pre-season game, and give me more JV coach analysis? Do I need to bring back my "fancy circles and arrows" threads, which I allowed Jeremy White to steal, because I am lazy, and it's his job anyway? Hint: when any team can run, and stop the run, how in the schit name of God did you figure it only gets 4 wins? Check it out: ATS Rankings The Bills continue to cash tickets after blasting the Raiders as short home favorites on Sunday. Link EDIT: But, now that I think about it....how many of you were really going to put your $$$ where your mouth resides? Please. Much easier to S___post on TSW, right? It costs you nothing, but, it costs our time. Hmmm, I think a fair question for you, OC, is "How many times in the last 20 years did you predict a playoff season and were wrong?" Probably a lot. The fact that you may FINALLY be right isn't much to gloat about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hmmm, I think a fair question for you, OC, is "How many times in the last 20 years did you predict a playoff season and were wrong?" Probably a lot. The fact that you may FINALLY be right isn't much to gloat about. The optimistic fans seem to be more emotional, and need the "I told you so" moment more than some other fans. The problem I see is, the "I told you so" moment has not arrived yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So you mentally added a bunch of text to a post to make it better fit your perception, got it. Nope. I directly read what you wrote. You said in the past a team like this would win maybe one more game. You didn't say anything about feeling this team is different. If I said we always order chocolate ice cream, would you think I was predicting we'd order vanilla next? I'm not offended by anything. Just own what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2008 we started 5-1. 2011 we started 5-2. Let's finish this off before we talk too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I was admittedly really down on this season after our performances in preseason, some of the trades we made. But this is why I'm a fan, and not a GM/coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 We don't know what will happen from now to week 17 but it's okay to enjoy it right now. Bingo. I'll add that it is hard to imagine McDermott presiding over some long term "fall apart" like Rex, Jauron, Williams, MM, etc. Not saying it can't happen but it sure doesn't look like that to me. FWIW at the beginning of the year I thought we were in for a tough one but also like the moving forward trend. I'm still a bit annoyed by the Sammy trade but not at all concerned about the MD trade. I just don't see how you look at this and see "same old Bills". 2008 we started 5-1. 2011 we started 5-2. Let's finish this off before we talk too much. So make sure not to enjoy anything? Or talk about it on a message board? Wrong about what exactly? I'm on these forums to have fun, but it seems a lot of you are not here for the same reason lol. Sports are not meant to be taken so seriously. The attempt at sarcasm was to take a shot at myself and state I'm not wrong yet, but it seems so many of you are so full of hate, you can't possibly see it as that. "Negative" Bills fans are your enemy number one and must taken to the woodshed. Holy crap, it's Monday morning, calm the !@#$ down. As far as what the Bills have to prove to me before I feel they are a different franchise may be a higher bar than some of you, I'm not going to apologize for that. Hate? Most of the people were just pointing out that your post was a bit douchy. That doesn't mean anyone hates you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The greatest quality of the human condition is curiosity, not hope or faith. Hope & faith are for sheeple to be led around by the nose with. Curiosity and hope go hand in hand, T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'd also like to point out that the opening post in this thread had a few points and we have talked about some but left out discussion of the imaginary theft by radio personalities of the OP's unmitigated genius. And this is only the 407th time he has posted about this so we clearly need to talk about it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The optimistic fans seem to be more emotional, and need the "I told you so" moment more than some other fans. The problem I see is, the "I told you so" moment has not arrived yet I think it's just the opposite. The negative Nellies always want to crow after a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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