CanadianFan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 https://brickwallblitz.com/2017/09/08/chiefs-defense-was-phenomenal-against-tom-brady-to-start-the-2017-season/ There's a good article about Chiefs' D against Pats. Brady had a 44% completion rate, something I don't ever recall him having. He makes great point about Brady here that I didn't realize: Tom Brady has never been a great deep passer. His accuracy on throws of 16+ last year was 16th. On throws or 20+, he was 18th. He’s a quarterback that has been sensational in the short/intermediate range. So it IS true that Brady has a weak ass arm, still LMAO. Brady is highly noted as a fantastic pre snap quarterback that knows how to read defenses before the snap and understands where to throw the ball. Playing in a great, but complex system that encourages quick throws underneath and in between 10-15 yards has allowed Brady to develop as one of the game’s greatest players. Actually, this makes Brady sound like Peterman. A LOT. OMG. Do we have a Tom Brady? The Chiefs’ defense didn’t allow for that at all. The game plan that sent packages of three-man rushes to Brady was highly scrutinized early on. It made the Patriots’ offensive line look amazing, but in the long run, it worked. It stressed Brady’s weaknesses and suffocated his strengths. With the constant three-man rushes, the Chiefs defense was able to cover the underneath routes in which the Patriots’ offense has consistently thrived on for years. With Brady forced to throw downfield, his accuracy waned. It doesn’t mean that Brady is declining. In fact, against lesser game plans you can expect the same high quality of play he has provided in his future Hall of Fame career. Well you still have to beat Pats D as well. It took a great game plan by Chiefs' D and a great game out of Alex Smith and Hunt to beat them. Won't be easy no. But there's a blue print to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I doubt it. Brady has had his statistical best games vs the Bills D. It's hard to see this unit faring much better unless TB truly is starting to slide. They've had more talented D units in the past. The Chiefs coverage was pretty good, and it may have been different if Berry had been injured earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The answer is NO. Bills secondary sucks. Expect Patriots to roll Buffalo BOTH times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 The answer is NO. Bills secondary sucks. Expect Patriots to roll Buffalo BOTH times. Yeah that's what I see as well. The secondary isn't the greatest at the moment. I need to re-watch the game and see what chiefs' secondary was doing. I know the guy said double-coverage underneath. Ours is going to be zone all the time, and Brady usually carves up zones. That's also what he does best, finding space in zones with his short quick accurate throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 No cheatin tapes in week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 No. Brady is still going to carve them up. NE lost a game. They will bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 https://brickwallblitz.com/2017/09/08/chiefs-defense-was-phenomenal-against-tom-brady-to-start-the-2017-season/ There's a good article about Chiefs' D against Pats. Brady had a 44% completion rate, something I don't ever recall him having. He makes great point about Brady here that I didn't realize: So it IS true that Brady has a weak ass arm, still LMAO. Actually, this makes Brady sound like Peterman. A LOT. OMG. Do we have a Tom Brady? Well you still have to beat Pats D as well. It took a great game plan by Chiefs' D and a great game out of Alex Smith and Hunt to beat them. Won't be easy no. But there's a blue print to do it. ...Andy went of out character with his play calling, Alex responded and BB had no answer defensively....their defense was exposed....several articles out there about how the Pats struggled all pre-season covering RB's out of the backfield....Faulk used to smoke us.....so hopefully Dennison is a film rat and dials up Shady & company to return the "Faulk favor"...stay tuned..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The answer is NO. Bills secondary sucks. Expect Patriots to roll Buffalo BOTH times. How have you determined this already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yes it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 How have you determined this already? ....Kraft is his uncle......didn't you know???................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Not sure if this defense can do that. But, we had our best game against Tom in recent memory during Rex's first year here on that Monday night game in foxboro. Problem was our offense couldn't move the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The answer is NO. Bills secondary sucks. Well...Maybe it does...But I don't see how anyone could possibly know seeing as though every player is new back there... You have a crystal ball or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I have a feeling when we play the Pats this season we're going to realize how foolish it was to judge Brady based off one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yes I think they can but I think Bills will rush 4 and put a lot more pressure on Brady then Chiefs did. That game is a long ways away and a lot can happen between now and then. Chiefs got 2 4th quarter sacks rushing 4. Pats are overrated at a couple of positions. Offensive line being one of them. Tom Brady looked good but not great. Any pressure and he just spikes the ball. Seems like he's afraid to get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I have a feeling when we play the Pats this season we're going to realize how foolish it was to judge Brady based off one game. i think everyone learned that lesson years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 LONG LONG time before we play NE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yes I think they can but I think Bills will rush 4 and put a lot more pressure on Brady then Chiefs did. That game is a long ways away and a lot can happen between now and then. Chiefs got 2 4th quarter sacks rushing 4. Pats are overrated at a couple of positions. Offensive line being one of them. Tom Brady looked good but not great. Any pressure and he just spikes the ball. Seems like he's afraid to get hit. all about the pressure. Been said many time and many ways. Love Bills are going back to a 4 man rush. and we have the players to get it done " don't touch me with your cooties! HEY Ref HEY REF!! he touched me!! wheres the damn sanitizer on this field anyways? " " i am going to tell My Daddy and you will be in big trouble" LONG LONG time before we play NE! yep, we better rest up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 i think everyone learned that lesson years ago. .......Brady goes down in 2008 and we're licking our chops as Cassel starts, going 11-5...astonishing that it wasn't good enough for the playoffs and equally astonishing Bflo didn't make the playoffs either (COUGH)...BUT we were the only stain on Jacoby's perfect substitute record....major kudos.....BUT you keep fighting the fight......playing for second best means jack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 their oline will hold all game. we will see meatball blow by the center/guard 3-4x and be literally tackled to the ground with no call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 their oline will hold all game. we will see meatball blow by the center/guard 3-4x and be literally tackled to the ground with no call. then MD better be there to rip Tom's f'n head off. do what ya gotta do. we all know how the game is played .......Brady goes down in 2008 and we're licking our chops as Cassel starts, going 11-5...astonishing that it wasn't good enough for the playoffs and equally astonishing Bflo didn't make the playoffs either (COUGH)...BUT we were the only stain on Jacoby's perfect substitute record....major kudos.....BUT you keep fighting the fight......playing for second best means jack.... Damn straight. Keep eyes open and keep grinding. so much is mentality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 his deep throws againt us always seem to be laser guided missiles...remember that bomb to Tims in double coverage that landed perfectly in his arms for a TD with Bills defenders all over him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I have a feeling when we play the Pats this season we're going to realize how foolish it was to judge Brady based off one game. The Falcons learned not to judge him on three quarters.... ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) his deep throws againt us always seem to be laser guided missiles...remember that bomb to Tims in double coverage that landed perfectly in his arms for a TD with Bills defenders all over him?? his deep throws againt us always seem to be laser guided missiles...remember that bomb to Tims in double coverage that landed perfectly in his arms for a TD with Bills defenders all over him?? and who was covering? We have had some real treats on the Bills. I think part of why they win is intimidation. Just a mindset that somehow they are going to beat you. Hpe the Chiefs game empowers others to say " yes we can" Leodis for one, pre Donnie Henderson Edited September 9, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Apart from differences in the KC defense in terms of experience and proven quality, this is kind of an apples to oranges comparison. KC ran a lot of man coverage. Buffalo is not going to do much of that. Buffalo is very much going to be a zone coverage team. Brady tends to have zone coverage teams for lunch, unless they can generate a tone of pressure with their front seven. Buffalo's front four in particular are going to have to be very effective versus NE's offensive line to create the pressure needed to frustrate Brady the way KC did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Taylor can't see a 6'5 TE running open over the middle how is he going to see Shady doing the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Brady will Not finish this entire year. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! NE did get like 18 penalties against KC, which would never happen against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Yes, our defense could do the same. We may be able to get more pressure, probably can't cover as well. Make Brady prove he can still be accurate deep. He is in decline, that is not debatable (we all are, after all), just a question of how fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 How have you determined this already? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 http://thecomeback.com/freezingcoldtakes/nfl/never-forget-for-one-week-in-2014-tom-brady-and-the-patriots-dynasty-was-dead.html Just two years ago, though, the Patriots started the season 1-1, then eked out an ugly 16-9 Sept. 21 home win over the Raiders before being clobbered 41-14 Sept. 29 by Kansas City on Monday Night Football. Brady played particularly poorly in both games, and that led to a whole lot of people assuming the then-37-year-old Brady and the Patriots’ dynasty were both done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) How have you determined this already? Well...Maybe it does...But I don't see how anyone could possibly know seeing as though every player is new back there... You have a crystal ball or something? He has determined it already and, no, he doesn't have a crystal ball. If you combined every post of his that was some variation of "the Bills suck" into one post, he would have, well, one post... Edited September 10, 2017 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 No. Brady is still going to carve them up. NE lost a game. They will bounce back. Naah. Belichick never adjusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) 'We're on to Cincinnati' Edited September 10, 2017 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 NE didn't really have a problem moving the ball until they fell behind late and the noose got a little tighter around the neck. They will score points regardless but what everyone got to see is that you can move the ball on them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 He has determined it already and, no, he doesn't have a crystal ball. If you combined every post of his that was some variation of "the Bills suck" into one post, he would have, well, one post... well, he might have a crystal ball... NE didn't really have a problem moving the ball until they fell behind late and the noose got a little tighter around the neck. They will score points regardless but what everyone got to see is that you can move the ball on them as well. You have to put up points on them, thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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