Buffalo716 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) gentleman I said Florida period. That are legends. I'll help you out Warren Sapp, Rey Lewis, edgerin James, Micheal Irvin, Alvin Harper, Dion Sanders, Sammy Watkins, Santonio Holmes, Vince Wilfork Clinton portis and a lot of HOFamers. I do not even the players that played there like Jim Kelly Ed Reed, regie Wayne. Don't even count any HOF from your states they would never even come close no comparison. Butch Davis coached 28 first round draft picks in 5 years from the U of M. Now tell me about evaluating talent. Talk about some other sport but football, no other State can even come close. No Imo, Fact.I played D1 ball. I coached varsity ball. I scout. You watch games in Florida. FYI I'll take Texas for talent Florida has 12 HoF lol Texas has 30 Edited August 21, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Well, if you really think about it, TT did take that $10M paycut that was a much better contract than his original 6 year deal. I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else or something but I never said that. You seem pretty happy right now. This year is going to be sad. I think the team is going to quickly and visibly lose faith in the HC and GM. Wonder if Kyle sticks it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else or something but I never said that. You seem pretty happy right now. This year is going to be sad. I think the team is going to quickly and visibly lose faith in the HC and GM. Wonder if Kyle sticks it out. Oh I thought you and Shaw were the two guys who said TT's new contract wasn't a pay cut, but actually a way BETTER contract. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh I thought you and Shaw were the two guys who said TT's new contract wasn't a pay cut, but actually a way BETTER contract. My mistake. That's Shaw. I didn't agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh I thought you and Shaw were the two guys who said TT's new contract wasn't a pay cut, but actually a way BETTER contract. My mistake. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noogie75 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 By the way Jones is getting Hot in LA. He is throwing darts. I'm watching are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 By the way Jones is getting Hot in LA. He is throwing darts. I'm watching are you? Can you just go to the Chargers board already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Even Brady has had a very good O line throughout his career. Brady also took a WR group led by Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell to the AFC Title game. He won his first Super Bowl with David Patten, Christian Fauria and Troy Brown. There are no conditions, he is the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noogie75 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can you just go to the Chargers board already? no I'm just not a hater. I give credit when is due. I don't just give it away, specially when they don't deserve it. You gotta earn it in my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 By the way Jones is getting Hot in LA. He is throwing darts. I'm watching are you? Throwing darts directly to other players for what should be pick-6s if they don't drop the football no I'm just not a hater. I give credit when is due. I don't just give it away, specially when they don't deserve it. You gotta earn it in my world. What credit is Jones due? What's he ever done in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noogie75 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Throwing darts directly to other players for what should be pick-6s if they don't drop the football What credit is Jones due? What's he ever done in the NFL? a lot better he was never given the chance. What has Peterman done? Even the commentators are saying he's throwing nice catchable balls. Even Philip Rivers and he does look like he's improving according to his OC. Plus he was hated on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I think it was actually somewhere in this thread that someone made a comment that there isn't anyone who is actually saying that Taylor is just a "RB playing QB." Whoever that poster was, here is yet another example It was me. That is the first person I have seen do it in a long, long time. It was being presented as a regular line of attack and evidence that people think Tyrod is much woree than he is. 1 comment from MAJBobby does not cause me to reject that as a fair assessment of this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Saints vs Chargers Ryan Nassib 6/15 55yds pick 6 99yds Cardale Jones 7/15 61 yds 1 int http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2017082052/2017/PRE2/saints@chargers#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000832840&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore good qbs are hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Congrats. It's blatantly clear we're drafting a QB in the top of round 1 and not picking up that option on Taylor in 2018 barring a miraclulous and Herculean effort on his part... something I think more and more posters will be actively rooting for this year. Still think this year there are no excuses for Taylor??? God I feel bad for McCoy and especially Meatball at this point. There are no excuses any more. It is his Make or break season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Is this supposed to be a bad thing or something? Who cares how a QB got good numbers? Isn't having good numbers what matters?Come on man of course good numbers matter, just look at how Trent Edwards numbers mattered, or Fitz. Sure good numbers matter for showing how good a QB is, I'm sure it has nothing to do with garbage time because hey we don't need the win the QB just has to pad those stats...SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 By the way Jones is getting Hot in LA. He is throwing darts. I'm watching are you? no I'm just not a hater. I give credit when is due. I don't just give it away, specially when they don't deserve it. You gotta earn it in my world. So, this is your idea of Cardale earning credit? This is against 3rd and 4th string scrubs mind you. This is what a good QB looks like to you? Jones getting hot? lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uux5yEKmepQ Hard to spin that as anything but another bad preseason performance by Cardale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 There are no excuses any more. It is his Make or break season. Make or break season, yes. But it's looking more and more like the excuses will be there. That doesn't mean there will be any excuses whatsoever that warrant us not doing everything we can to trade up (if necessary) to draft a QB. Taylor needs to be better than 2016 and probably 2015 to make OBD even second-guess doing that. Which is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 more pages to 100 Make or break season, yes.But it's looking more and more like the excuses will be there. That doesn't mean there will be any excuses whatsoever that warrant us not doing everything we can to trade up (if necessary) to draft a QB. Taylor needs to be better than 2016 and probably 2015 to make OBD even second-guess doing that.Which is perfectly fine. We always find ways to excuse things away. Its human nature. Better than both seasons (combined ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 If they win 0 or if they win 16 or somewhere in between I will watch and hope to see improvement as it goes along. Starting with our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 just some fun stats to brighten your day. TT has a really lit it up so far. Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Nathan Peterman 45 23 279 51.1 6.2 1 2.2 0 0.0 28 2 11 77.9 T.J. Yates 26 15 131 57.7 5.0 1 3.8 1 3.8 16 4 27 67.9 Tyrod Taylor 26 13 99 50.0 3.8 0 0.0 2 7.7 15 3 17 27.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 just some fun stats to brighten your day. TT has a really lit it up so far. Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Nathan Peterman 45 23 279 51.1 6.2 1 2.2 0 0.0 28 2 11 77.9 T.J. Yates 26 15 131 57.7 5.0 1 3.8 1 3.8 16 4 27 67.9 Tyrod Taylor 26 13 99 50.0 3.8 0 0.0 2 7.7 15 3 17 27.6 Do these preseason QB stats really mean anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 just some fun stats to brighten your day. TT has a really lit it up so far. Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Nathan Peterman 45 23 279 51.1 6.2 1 2.2 0 0.0 28 2 11 77.9 T.J. Yates 26 15 131 57.7 5.0 1 3.8 1 3.8 16 4 27 67.9 Tyrod Taylor 26 13 99 50.0 3.8 0 0.0 2 7.7 15 3 17 27.6 so who's going to win the preseason award? still two games left, stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Do these preseason QB stats really mean anything? ...so you're invalidating the value of Wrecks Ryan's claim "we won the pre-season"?........are your credentials BETTER than HIS?...show me.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) ...so you're invalidating the value of Wrecks Ryan's claim "we won the pre-season"?........are your credentials BETTER than HIS?...show me.................. Wait....I thought he was always the winner of the offseason. Edited August 21, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 ...so you're invalidating the value of Wrecks Ryan's claim "we won the pre-season"?........are your credentials BETTER than HIS?...show me.................. it was "we won the off season" They didn't even bother with preseason last year. Everyone sat and then came out flat on a real game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Wait....I thought he was always the winner of the offseason. Winner or Whiner? Re Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 4 more pages to 100 We always find ways to excuse things away. Its human nature. At least Taylor puts the onus on him... http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/sports/bills-receivers-challenged-adapt-boldin-retires-article-1.3433426 "No excuses ever want to be made on my end. You've got to deal with whatever's given to you," Taylor said. "Yes, we lost Sammy. Yes, we lost Anquan. But there's guys that are very good players, very talented players. We just have to do whatever it takes to get on the same page." almost there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Anquan Who? Christ he was here for a nanosecond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Congrats. It's blatantly clear we're drafting a QB in the top of round 1 and not picking up that option on Taylor in 2018 barring a miraclulous and Herculean effort on his part... something I think more and more posters will be actively rooting for this year. Still think this year there are no excuses for Taylor??? God I feel bad for McCoy and especially Meatball at this point. finally? took you long enough the read the writing on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Tyrod Taylor: "Building Chemistry" (4:06)Bills Quarterback Tyrod Taylor addressed the media inside the locker room after practice topics include; the retirement of Wide Receiver Anquan Boldin, young wide receivers stepping up, and keeping focus moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 At least Taylor puts the onus on him... http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/sports/bills-receivers-challenged-adapt-boldin-retires-article-1.3433426 "No excuses ever want to be made on my end. You've got to deal with whatever's given to you," Taylor said. "Yes, we lost Sammy. Yes, we lost Anquan. But there's guys that are very good players, very talented players. We just have to do whatever it takes to get on the same page." almost there Not a bad quote. Realist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I respect T.T as a man so much and I think he's a leader among men. His work ethic and desire to succeed is where you want your QB to be. I just hope he can develop his QB skills enough to become our guy. I'm just not sure he has it in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 It's behind the ESPN Insider paywall: @mikerodak Tyrod Taylor lands in Tier 3 of @SandoESPN’s expert panel QB ratings. Some strong words from one head coach on him http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/20400339/2017-nfl-qb-tier-rankings-new-england-patriots-tom-brady-green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers#Tier1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Do these preseason QB stats really mean anything? Hey, did anyone ever dig up those Brady rookie preseason stats that preoccupied some posters about 50 pages ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I respect T.T as a man so much and I think he's a leader among men. His work ethic and desire to succeed is where you want your QB to be. I just hope he can develop his QB skills enough to become our guy. I'm just not sure he has it in him. I fear that he has relied on his running ability for so long, he never really had to develop great passing skills...he could always get by being an average passer because of his running...doubtful that he will be able to just turn it on...but I agree, much love and respect for Tyrod- always a true professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) finally? took you long enough the read the writing on the wall. But I'll be rooting hard for him to play well enough so that it doesn't happen. I think now that it's so close and almost so obviously going to happen, a large number of posters particularly in this thread are going to be rooting very hard against Taylor succeeding. Taylor has been set up in a situation that's interesting because she has been set up to fail while also being set up to prove he's the answer. It's behind the ESPN Insider paywall: @mikerodak Tyrod Taylor lands in Tier 3 of @SandoESPNs expert panel QB ratings. Some strong words from one head coach on him http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/20400339/2017-nfl-qb-tier-rankings-new-england-patriots-tom-brady-green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers#Tier1 Anyone with ESPN insider? General curiosity about what they say more than anything Edited August 23, 2017 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The end is near for Tyrod. Get used to watching him consecutively go 3 and out as teams force him to stay in the pocket and be a QB. How many games before he gets pulled, 3 maybe 4? Or will a injury be the end for him in Buffalo? Sadly by then Tyrods stock will be next to nothing, what a waste, trade him now while he is worth at least a bag of peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I respect T.T as a man so much and I think he's a leader among men. His work ethic and desire to succeed is where you want your QB to be. I just hope he can develop his QB skills enough to become our guy. I'm just not sure he has it in him. Same. He has a stacked deck against him. Wish him the best. But I'll be rooting hard for him to play well enough so that it doesn't happen. I think now that it's so close and almost so obviously going to happen, a large number of posters particularly in this thread are going to be rooting very hard against Taylor succeeding. Taylor has been set up in a situation that's interesting because she has been set up to fail while also being set up to prove he's the answer. Anyone with ESPN insider? General curiosity about what they say more than anything Thats right. I feel bad for him shady and meatball. They all wanted to compete to win this year and pretty much had their tires slashed. The end is near for Tyrod. Get used to watching him consecutively go 3 and out as teams force him to stay in the pocket and be a QB. How many games before he gets pulled, 3 maybe 4? Or will a injury be the end for him in Buffalo? Sadly by then Tyrods stock will be next to nothing, what a waste, trade him now while he is worth at least a bag of peanuts. Dude you are an @ssh0le. Can we trade you to the pats fan board? We should trade you now while your still worth at least a rusty looney in a pigs @ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The end is near for Tyrod. Get used to watching him consecutively go 3 and out as teams force him to stay in the pocket and be a QB. How many games before he gets pulled, 3 maybe 4? Or will a injury be the end for him in Buffalo? Sadly by then Tyrods stock will be next to nothing, what a waste, trade him now while he is worth at least a bag of peanuts. Perfect example of someone adamantly rooting against Taylor right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Teams can't force him to stay in the pocket, but that's not necessarily their primary goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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