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if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices.

 

Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless.

 

I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter.

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I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter.

I totally don't understand your logic. Are you concerned or angered that the gang banger is still sitting in jail? If so, why?
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If his brother is that stupid he shouldn't have paid his bail !!

 

That's how a lot of NFL & other sports stars lose millions by the leaches that say they are family when all's they care about is getting some of the cash in what ever form for their own benefit ...

 

Beware Sammy !!

See Michael Vick's brother Marcus

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OMG, did you guys actually read the story? he DOES have to show up and testify about where the money comes from, If the judge says so. Nobody made Sammy pay the bail, he chose to do it

 

"I'm surprised we don't have Mr. Watkins here. You would think it was clear last time he should've been here," [Justice] Kyle said.

 

That's shows something has gone down the pipeline of importance...

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I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter.

who it was is irrelevant. Being Sammy worth billions Watkins doesn't matter either. Does he have the cash? Does he have it all leveraged? The court has a right to make that request.

I totally don't understand your logic. Are you concerned or angered that the gang banger is still sitting in jail? If so, why?

in this day and age due process is just not Constitutional evidently.
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who it was is irrelevant. Being Sammy worth billions Watkins doesn't matter either. Does he have the cash? Does he have it all leveraged? The court has a right to make that request.

in this day and age due process is just not Constitutional evidently.

 

 

Grateful we have a self-declared Constitution expert to decide on matters based on a wispy article.

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So what? He is making it harder for a gangster to be sprung from jail. Does this really bother you?

 

Shouldn't it bother you too? The law should be the law for everyone.

If you open the door for variable legal requirements when you think the people involved are "bad hombres" or what have you (does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?), you open the door for variable legal requirements when it's in the perceived interest of the government. And that is the path of authoritarianism at best, not democracy.

 

A Man for All Seasons (1960) Robert Bolt (play about Sir Thomas More)

Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!

More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

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if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices.

 

Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless.

Wow... As a start, if I were your brother, I'd make sure you were less ignorant and work on your reading comprehension. This is an incredible post, even by internet soapbox standards.

 

As for the procedure, its called a Nebbia hold. The appearance in court shouldn't have been necessary; a tax return and a brokerage/bank accountant should have been sufficient. The Judge should release him based on what I assume are the aforementioned documents or a Petition for Habeas Corpus should follow next.

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Wow... As a start, if I were your brother, I'd make sure you were less ignorant and work on your reading comprehension. This is an incredible post, even by internet soapbox standards.

 

As for the procedure, its called a Nebbia hold. The appearance in court shouldn't have been necessary; a tax return and a brokerage/bank accountant should have been sufficient. The Judge should release him based on what I assume are the aforementioned documents or a Petition for Habeas Corpus should follow next.

if you were my brother you would probably got put in a hucklebuck for calling me ignorant.

 

But, you'd have been raised with class and not had to worry about me skipping bail. And if I did, you'd have beat my ass. I didn't skipy bail.

Either way, full disclaimer. I didn't read all of your post. I don't care enough to do so, because whatever

 

 

Anyway, Sammy is still an !@#$.

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Imagine photos of Sammy in the same room with gang bangers posted in the media..

Do you think that they would be strangers?

Shouldn't it bother you too? The law should be the law for everyone.

If you open the door for variable legal requirements when you think the people involved are "bad hombres" or what have you (does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?), you open the door for variable legal requirements when it's in the perceived interest of the government. And that is the path of authoritarianism at best, not democracy.

You must hate the RICO laws too, no?

 

Let's can agree to disagree, shall we? I dislike murderers. I have seen enough of their work and don't view these darlings from an abstract, lofty, sanctimonious perch.

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if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices.

 

Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless.

He's in Buffalo trying to get better at his job and didn't have time to leave because his brother made mistakes. Man you are clueless.

if you were my brother you would probably got put in a hucklebuck for calling me ignorant.

 

But, you'd have been raised with class and not had to worry about me skipping bail. And if I did, you'd have beat my ass. I didn't skipy bail.

Either way, full disclaimer. I didn't read all of your post. I don't care enough to do so, because whatever

 

 

Anyway, Sammy is still an !@#$.

What is a hucklebuck

 

EDIT: Hucklebuck: "It's a sexual position where the girl is laying on her back and the guy puts her legs behind her head" - you must be close with your brother...

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

So, we're allowed to call you trash as well, since, although we don't know you, you admit you have a half-sibling? Because you certainly sound like you fit the bill.

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So, we're allowed to call you trash as well, since, although we don't know you, you admit you have a half-sibling? Because you certainly sound like you fit the bill.

Tom Brady has kids from multiple women............................this guy you quoted is going to ignore this though because it won't go along with his narrative. AMERICA 2017 BABY

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Tom Brady has kids from multiple women............................this guy you quoted is going to ignore this though because it won't go along with his narrative. AMERICA 2017 BABY

No kidding. That little factoid goes conveniently ignored. It takes all kinds, but it seems like the first ones around here eager to jump on any player with even a hint of a behavioral issue have the strongest whiff of scumbag about them.

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

Congratulations! You've posted the most ignorant and narrow minded post this year!

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He's in Buffalo trying to get better at his job and didn't have time to leave because his brother made mistakes. Man you are clueless.

 

What is a hucklebuck

 

EDIT: Hucklebuck: "It's a sexual position where the girl is laying on her back and the guy puts her legs behind her head" - you must be close with your brother...

best thing I've read on here in a long time. Well done

 

A hucklebuck is when you put a submission move on someone where they can't move. It is as old as time

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if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices.

 

Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless.

I totally disagree with you and strongly disagree with your question on his character. IMO I think he has strong values and character.

Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

Just.... wow! Things aren't always black and white. And, why is your opinion righteous. Seriously, you sound like you are lacking character yourself.
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how about sammy let his gang member brother handle his own problems made by his own terrible decisions and not bail his law breaking black ass out?


i can tell you this, i would love a half-brother of mine to death but theres no way im bailing him out if he got in that trouble bc he was in a gang. that means hes made a few terrible decisions already at least and im not going to compound it by letting him walk the streets like nothing happened. your own actions put you in there, your own actions can get you out

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

 

There have been a lot of really stupid, ignorant comments around here lately, and I am doing my best to ignore them but this post tops them all. Your ignorance is embarrassing. To say he has no character because of the family he was born into is senseless. Sammy has proven to be a hard working, talented member of this team and deserves the support of this fan base not the vitriol of an uneducated or at least ignorant fool looking for attention. Edited by buffaloboyinATL
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I totally disagree with you and strongly disagree with your question on his character. IMO I think he has strong values and character.

Just.... wow! Things aren't always black and white. And, why is your opinion righteous. Seriously, you sound like you are lacking character yourself.

go read his IG and Twitter. He sounds like a dyslexic 12 yr old hood rat trying bragging about his money and lifestyle
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SW's brother must be a bad dude with a $1m bail. Must have done some serious stuff

 

Maybe another reason the team didn't pick up his option as they see this as a distraction on top of the foot thing.

ya good thought, bad bad dude byebye sammy new character dudes we have dont like these trumplike distractions

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

Probably the most vile post ive ever seen.

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

Remember SAT tests? There were those logic questions...

 

Watkins is trash because he has step brothers.

 

You mention your step brother.... therefore you are ______.

 

Who can fill in the blank?

 

I'd think one who comes from a broken family and has self respect and self worth would understand good people can come from all sorts of places, and character can form through any number of the worst circumstances.

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Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh.

 

Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins.

 

And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash.

 

And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable.

 

Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none.

 

Who was the idiot who drafted this guy?

What a sorry individual you are... Whenever I ponder "how did the country get itself into it's current mess?", I remember there are people like you who are allowed to vote, and raise children.

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This board is going downhill by the day. A lot of ignorance coming out of the bushes; fits in with the tenor of our current times, unfortunately. If one believes I am referring to them when I speak of ignorance those one's are probably correct since they make it so obvious.

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This board is going downhill by the day. A lot of ignorance coming out of the bushes; fits in with the tenor of our current times, unfortunately. If one believes I am referring to them when I speak of ignorance those one's are probably correct since they make it so obvious.

Agreed. There are many threads that I just have to stop reading when the idiocy reaches a crescendo. Too bad too because there usually a few knowledgeable fans trying to have an interesting conversation that get lost in the shuffle. Edited by Just Jack
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This board is going downhill by the day. A lot of ignorance coming out of the bushes; fits in with the tenor of our current times, unfortunately. If one believes I am referring to them when I speak of ignorance those one's are probably correct since they make it so obvious.

its impossible to not get aggravated by the stupid. but then you realize it is just the sad reality of millenials and their #feelings and having to let everyone know them.

 

i'd hate to see their facebook pages.

 

either way, its fun and funny to respond to them.

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its impossible to not get aggravated by the stupid. but then you realize it is just the sad reality of millenials and their #feelings and having to let everyone know them.

 

i'd hate to see their facebook pages.

 

either way, its fun and funny to respond to them.

Serious question....how do you keep from getting banned? Your posts totally warrant it but you do seem to slide by. Edited by Just Jack
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how about sammy let his gang member brother handle his own problems made by his own terrible decisions and not bail his law breaking black ass out?

 

i can tell you this, i would love a half-brother of mine to death but theres no way im bailing him out if he got in that trouble bc he was in a gang. that means hes made a few terrible decisions already at least and im not going to compound it by letting him walk the streets like nothing happened. your own actions put you in there, your own actions can get you out

If the brother wasn't eligible for bail, the judge wouldn't have set bail. I guess that point eludes you though. I guess his "black ass" deserves to rot for eternity before even being convicted. Seriously people like you and mileena and boyst are turning this place into a f-ing pit. Sort yourselves out. Edited by Zulu Cthulhu
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