Mr. WEO Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800899/article/joe-haden-gregg-williams-already-improving-browns "His energy's crazy," Haden said Tuesday, via Cleveland.com. "He definitely brings a different attitude. He's very, very vocal, in your face and I feel like we definitely need that. Haden added: "It's a shock, but that's what we need. We need somebody that's going to switch it up, change it up, tell us something, cuss us out, scream at us, let us know that we're sorry right now and we've got to be better." The best part: "We need somebody that's going to keep everybody accountable," It's nice to see the new brain trust (Moneyballl!!!) is continuing on the Browns laughing stock tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cson76 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sounds like most sound bits from most new coaches taking over bad units. I'm not sure how he is continuing on the Browns laughing stock of an organization. I see the Browns and the Bills in the same league when it comes to laughing stocks. At this point, I wish the Bills were as progressive as the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I may be in the minority but I like the moves the Browns are making, collecting draft picks like the Dallas Cowboys of the 90's, They are hiring whoever they can to help them turn into winners and I like that, seems like what the Bills are trying to do with the hiring of McDermott, when Whaley is fired we will hopefully do the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 He can't be worse than Horton. I just really disagree with not hiring an OC. Hue can't get over his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Word is there is $15,000 on each of Roethlisberger's , Dalton's, and Flacco's knees in the pot already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 He can't be worse than Horton. I just really disagree with not hiring an OC. Hue can't get over his ego. Hue's HUEbris will be his downfall. Word is there is $15,000 on each of Roethlisberger's , Dalton's, and Flacco's knees in the pot already. OMG A bounty-ful joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Hue's HUEbris will be his downfall. That was a colorful remark. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 That was a colorful remark. :-) LOL'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Word is there is $15,000 on each of Roethlisberger's , Dalton's, and Flacco's knees in the pot already. Stood there like a Jauron his whole time here, then became the Tasmanian Devil with the Saints. Which will show up next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I may be in the minority but I like the moves the Browns are making, collecting draft picks like the Dallas Cowboys of the 90's, They are hiring whoever they can to help them turn into winners and I like that, seems like what the Bills are trying to do with the hiring of McDermott, when Whaley is fired we will hopefully do the same . Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Stood there like a Jauron his whole time here, then became the Tasmanian Devil with the Saints. Which will show up next? I seem to recall him pretty much being a douche while he was in Buffalo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. Only if they get the draft picks right! And that's a big if... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I see a montage of Greggo imploring his players to attack the head, Dwight Clarke's catch which has now been removed from main reel and continued ratings reports indicating a collapse of the league as we know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Only if they get the draft picks right! And that's a big if... That's where the whole "moneyball" idea fails in its application to football, right? The evaluation of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sounds like most sound bits from most new coaches taking over bad units. I'm not sure how he is continuing on the Browns laughing stock of an organization. I see the Browns and the Bills in the same league when it comes to laughing stocks. At this point, I wish the Bills were as progressive as the Browns. I even posted the unintentionally ironic quotes and you still didn't get it. You probably don't remember him form his days with the Bills. He yells a lot, that's a bout it. Williams is a fraud. His only significant contribution to coaching was his explicit bounty program. Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. Done what right? Hoarded draft picks? So what? They still don't have a serviceable starting QB. Hue Jidiot could have had one last year in the draft but he thought he didn't need one. Now they have relieved Houston of a huge mistake with Osweiler and a 2nd round future pick for the price of at least 16 million this year. Tyrod is better than any of the 7 Browns QBs since this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) I seem to recall him pretty much being a douche while he was in Buffalo too. There were so many soulless and emotionless Bills coaches standing there the last 20 years that none stood out. I think I've forgotten the names of 2 or 3 of them. I defer to your memory bank if you can recall anything that made Williams stand out from any of them. Edited April 19, 2017 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Sounds like most sound bits from most new coaches taking over bad units. I'm not sure how he is continuing on the Browns laughing stock of an organization. I see the Browns and the Bills in the same league when it comes to laughing stocks. At this point, I wish the Bills were as progressive as the Browns. Browns have had 2 first round picks 4 out of the last 10 drafts. There are currently only 2 of those guys still on the roster. Yeahhhh.... Doesn't matter how many times you pick if you suck at picking! Edited April 19, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. We will see exactly what the Browns do with all of that cap space and draft choices. They had two massive trade downs this decade that allotted them draft picks that they really didn't do a lot with. The trade downs for Juilo Jones and Sammy might have been the right deals in theory but the Browns just didn't produce the players from those additional picks. Now with the Wentz trade downs and all of their other maneuvers they have another treasure trove of picks but what exactly will it manifest into? Good on paper don't always pan out. The Browns are still a mess as they just keep rolling over cap space with no real results and their allotment of draft picks while great isn't a guarantee. So I will wait and see just exactly how well the Browns do in the upcoming draft before I call their strategy successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Okay, I'll be watching for the Browns to give us Bills fans a show of how they have done it right. What decade is this going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio bob Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Gregg Williams made the same boast when he came to the Bills he was going to make a good defense" better" just like Rex predicated . We know how that turned out. Good luck Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I hope the Browns fail on every draft pick this draft. I just want them to fail horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 There were so many soulless and emotionless Bills coaches standing there the last 20 years that none stood out. I think I've forgotten the names of 2 or 3 of them. I defer to your memory bank if you can recall anything that made Williams stand out from any of them. He used the famous Air-Horn during training camp. All that did was make the players hate is guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Considering GW's role in the Bountygate scandal, I had to laugh at the opening line of the article: "Notorious defensive coordinator Gregg Williams speaks loudly and carries a big stick." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 He used the famous Air-Horn during training camp. All that did was make the players hate is guts. that was a harbinger for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Hilarious that any Bills fan thinks we can laugh at any other franchise. Everyone likes to kick the Browns around, but guess what? They have an overall winning record, and 8 titles over two leagues. And have also been to the playoffs during our current run of futility. Cleveland Browns Seasons: 69 (1946 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 509-470-13 Playoff Record: 16-20 Super Bowls Won: 0 (0 Appearances) Championships Won: 8 (AAFC & NFL) Buffalo Bills Seasons: 58 (1960 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 400-460-8 Playoff Record: 14-15 Super Bowls Won: 0 (4 Appearances) Championships Won: 2 (AFL) 60 games under .500 all-time. Chew on that next time you want to mock any other franchise in any sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. Yeah, they have the league by the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 People boasting about the Browns are hereby sentenced to have to watch every minute of their games in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Considering GW's role in the Bountygate scandal, I had to laugh at the opening line of the article: "Notorious defensive coordinator Gregg Williams speaks loudly and carries a big stick." ...where is his air horn?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I hope the Browns fail on every draft pick this draft. I just want them to fail horribly. Why? Does it make you feel better about our dysfunctional organization? Hilarious that any Bills fan thinks we can laugh at any other franchise. Everyone likes to kick the Browns around, but guess what? They have an overall winning record, and 8 titles over two leagues. And have also been to the playoffs during our current run of futility. Cleveland Browns Seasons: 69 (1946 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 509-470-13 Playoff Record: 16-20 Super Bowls Won: 0 (0 Appearances) Championships Won: 8 (AAFC & NFL) Buffalo Bills Seasons: 58 (1960 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 400-460-8 Playoff Record: 14-15 Super Bowls Won: 0 (4 Appearances) Championships Won: 2 (AFL) 60 games under .500 all-time. Chew on that next time you want to mock any other franchise in any sport. I'd say the fact that they have never been to a SB, plays in our favor more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'd say the fact that they have never been to a SB, plays in our favor more. No one cares about our 'appearances' anymore. It's nothing but a trivia question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No one cares about our 'appearances' anymore. It's nothing but a trivia question. I think it matters. Browns are one of three teams I think or four, never to have been to one. And the Browns never had a decade of winning like we had in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 'Former first-round pick Joe Haden said he's been confronted and challenged by Williams early in offseason workouts. "His energy's crazy," Haden said Tuesday, via Cleveland.com. "He definitely brings a different attitude. He's very, very vocal, in your face and I feel like we definitely need that." Maybe I'm just misinterpreting things, but this almost makes it sound like Williams has been on the field during workouts. I thought that wasn't allowed at this time in the offseason programs? I know McDermott and his coaches weren't allowed on the field or in the gym with our players. Only the trainers were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills fans can't handle the Browns have done it right. Started with over 100 mil in cap room, they own the next two drafts, they are way ahead of us. Too bad the Pegulas weren't willing to clean house and start over, instead we keep trying to use Tylenol to cure cancer essentially. Nonsense. They have 'owned' several of the last decade of drafts. Didn't accomplish jack. I for one am not at all worried about the Browns outdoing the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Hilarious that any Bills fan thinks we can laugh at any other franchise. Everyone likes to kick the Browns around, but guess what? They have an overall winning record, and 8 titles over two leagues. And have also been to the playoffs during our current run of futility. Cleveland Browns Seasons: 69 (1946 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 509-470-13 Playoff Record: 16-20 Super Bowls Won: 0 (0 Appearances) Championships Won: 8 (AAFC & NFL) Buffalo Bills Seasons: 58 (1960 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 400-460-8 Playoff Record: 14-15 Super Bowls Won: 0 (4 Appearances) Championships Won: 2 (AFL) 60 games under .500 all-time. Chew on that next time you want to mock any other franchise in any sport. I think it matters. Browns are one of three teams I think or four, never to have been to one. And the Browns never had a decade of winning like we had in the 90's. Yes, but the team formerly known as the Browns won a SB the year after the current team was established, only 4 years after relocating. The current Browns are an expansion team that joined the league in 1999. Edited April 19, 2017 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hilarious that any Bills fan thinks we can laugh at any other franchise. Everyone likes to kick the Browns around, but guess what? They have an overall winning record, and 8 titles over two leagues. And have also been to the playoffs during our current run of futility. Cleveland Browns Seasons: 69 (1946 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 509-470-13 Playoff Record: 16-20 Super Bowls Won: 0 (0 Appearances) Championships Won: 8 (AAFC & NFL) Buffalo Bills Seasons: 58 (1960 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 400-460-8 Playoff Record: 14-15 Super Bowls Won: 0 (4 Appearances) Championships Won: 2 (AFL) 60 games under .500 all-time. Chew on that next time you want to mock any other franchise in any sport. Doesn't matter Cleveland is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hilarious that any Bills fan thinks we can laugh at any other franchise. Everyone likes to kick the Browns around, but guess what? They have an overall winning record, and 8 titles over two leagues. And have also been to the playoffs during our current run of futility. Cleveland Browns Seasons: 69 (1946 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 509-470-13 Playoff Record: 16-20 Super Bowls Won: 0 (0 Appearances) Championships Won: 8 (AAFC & NFL) Buffalo Bills Seasons: 58 (1960 to 2017) Record (W-L-T): 400-460-8 Playoff Record: 14-15 Super Bowls Won: 0 (4 Appearances) Championships Won: 2 (AFL) 60 games under .500 all-time. Chew on that next time you want to mock any other franchise in any sport. In fewer words, you could have just said you don't understand what this thread is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 You called the Browns out for their "laughing stock tradition". I'm calling out "glass houses". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 You called the Browns out for their "laughing stock tradition". I'm calling out "glass houses". Browns are the color of ****... Bills are the color of America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) You called the Browns out for their "laughing stock tradition". I'm calling out "glass houses". You pointed out that the Bills are 60 games under 0.500 for their existence. Since 1999, when the current iteration of the Browns came in to existence, they are 88-200. IN 18 YEARS THEY'RE 112 GAMES UNDER 0.500. How is this not a laughingstock tradition? Since their re-inception they've been an unmitigated disaster. Edited April 20, 2017 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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