dave mcbride Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I didn;t read all 11 pages in this thread but when was the last time, in the NFL, any team traded a player and give the other team a hight draft pick, first time in recent history I can recall this, very very very unusual to say the least I mean think about it, would you trade Dareus and then include a 2nd round draft pick, it's, well, CRAZY.... jc First off: AM is a great record. Second: read pages 8 onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 they basically paid 16 million for a 2018 2nd Rd pick, IMO, not smart use of money You have to remember that the Browns are forced to spend to the cap floor, which they are nowhere near. This trade, which can be legitimately viewed as a waste of money in real terms, benefits them as they are not forced to enter into bad contracts to reach the cap floor - bad contracts that may screw them in future years. They have to spend the money either way, might as well spend it on someone they're not obligated to commit to for more than a season. Playing the short game, this benefits them by coming closer to hitting the cap floor without committing to anything beyond 2017. In the long-term, it *may* benefit them, depending on what they do with their 2017 6th and 2018 2nd. Any contributions Osweiler makes (assuming he's not just cut) are a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 @salsports I was told at the combine Bill O'Brien basically hates Brock Osweiler and they just wanted him gone. Guess that was right. Wow. That's great. They are basically paying someone to take the mess off their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You have to remember that the Browns are forced to spend to the cap floor, which they are nowhere near. This trade, which can be legitimately viewed as a waste of money in real terms, benefits them as they are not forced to enter into bad contracts to reach the cap floor - bad contracts that may screw them in future years. They have to spend the money either way, might as well spend it on someone they're not obligated to commit to for more than a season. Playing the short game, this benefits them by coming closer to hitting the cap floor without committing to anything beyond 2017. In the long-term, it *may* benefit them, depending on what they do with their 2017 6th and 2018 2nd. Any contributions Osweiler makes (assuming he's not just cut) are a bonus. The cap floor is calculated using cash spent - not cap space - over a rolling period of several seasons. The Browns were already over the minimum limit before this all started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 What do you mean? They took the contact and got a 2nd round pick. They have a ton of money to spend and can cut Brock after the season. They basically bought a 2nd round pick.Exactly. What I find crazy is that Houston thinks so little of Brock Osweiler that they would give Cleveland a second round pick just to take him. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I keep reading that Cleveland will use a 1st and the 2nd they got from Houston to get Garappolo....that would not not be good at all......NE getting more picks is a bad thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If this is to get garropolo, it makes sense. Otherwise they are in perpetual tank mode and just collecting assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 @salsports I was told at the combine Bill O'Brien basically hates Brock Osweiler and they just wanted him gone. Guess that was right. Wow. Did this hatred emerge during the season, or was Osweiler signed to a $37m guaranteed contract over O'brien's strong objections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Did this hatred emerge during the season, or was Osweiler signed to a $37m guaranteed contract over O'brien's strong objections? reportedly he never met Brock before they signed him. But I think the hate started in season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Wow a brilliant move by the Browns? They get a 2nd round pick to take a salary cap dump off another team. That is awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 basically got a 2nd round pick to eat a contract and get closer to the cap floor while they rebuild from the ground up. Smart. My thoughts exactly. Gonna take awhile but it's a legitimate fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I thought it actually seemed like a forward thinking thing to do...but who am I? that seems to be the prevailing wisdom within this thread. i dunno though, seems just a tad off the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If Houston doesn't get Romo they got screwed big time; they give 2 picks + Oz and only get a fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Bills fans once again price they have no clue. Cleveland started out with 115m in cap space. They got a second round pick to get rid some of their cap space. Houston gained cap space but had to throw in a significant draft pick. Cleveland now has 2 1st, 3 2nds in this years draft and 22 picks in next 2 drafts. Yep they are clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I keep reading that Cleveland will use a 1st and the 2nd they got from Houston to get Garappolo....that would not not be good at all......NE getting more picks is a bad thing... question is, where is he going? Jimmy Garoppolo says goodbye to Boston in instagram post http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/10/jimmy-garoppolo-says-goodbye-to-boston-in-instagram-post/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 question is, where is he going? Jimmy Garoppolo says goodbye to Boston in instagram post http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/10/jimmy-garoppolo-says-goodbye-to-boston-in-instagram-post/ He got hacked, reportedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Browns are playing moneyball all the way. If they can't find a trade might as well keep him to tank for a QB in 2018. Another crash test dummy till the OL is compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 What is everyone's fascination with tanking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) He got hacked, reportedly. I guess that could be. not as if it doesn't occur. but I'm thinking it's not a hack? do you have a source saying he was hacked? never mind, I see a few reports of the possible hack. although some believe it may not be? bb may of got on his ass and had him take it down? ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported around 7 a.m. on Friday that Garoppolo’s account had been hacked and the post was a hoax — although it remained online. Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/article137639858.html#storylink=cpy inquiring minds would like to know Edited March 10, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I guess that could be. not as if it doesn't occur. but I'm thinking it's not a hack? do you have a source saying he was hacked? never mind, I see a few reports of the possible hack. although some believe it may not be? bb may of got on his ass and had him take it down? ESPNs Adam Schefter reported around 7 a.m. on Friday that Garoppolos account had been hacked and the post was a hoax although it remained online. Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/article137639858.html#storylink=cpy inquiring minds would like to know The hacking thing always seems suspicious to me. Most the time I think they had a few drinks and probably posted something they normally wouldn't have. But W/E Jimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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