MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Ahhhh coming toward the NFL Trade Deadline. Also known as the all talk and no action deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Whaley was on wgr this morning seemed to think that talks around the league would start heating up on Sunday night... wouldn't be surprised to see him do a deal but he basically said alshon was off the table (without naming him) due to his tag and contract sitcheeayshun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Whaley was on wgr this morning seemed to think that talks around the league would start heating up on Sunday night... wouldn't be surprised to see him do a deal but he basically said alshon was off the table (without naming him) due to his tag and contract sitcheeayshun. Alston makes little sense here logistically. Smith actually would though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I don't think the Bills will trade for Torrey, but I would really like the statement this would make that ownership is committed to winning now (or next year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Smith was so wide open on the long TD pass at the Cap two weeks ago that he got lonely....there's blown coverage and then there is BLOWN coverage. He's also got some toughness...would welcome him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Redoing his deal means giving him more money in a bonus. No thanks. I'm pretty sure that everyone pointing that direction is thinking average pay being flat or a reduction AND adding cap flexibility. But sure, there would be some upfront payouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm pretty sure that everyone pointing that direction is thinking average pay being flat or a reduction AND adding cap flexibility. But sure, there would be some upfront payouts I just don't see him taking a pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Lemme throw out another name: Michael Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Lemme throw out another name: Michael FloydI like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) For $8M/year plus the draft pick, you want more than merely a "productive" receiver. And a 1-year rental isn't worth it. I wouldn't argue with anyone who didn't like Torrey Smith's salary/cap hit but he would not be a "1-year rental" like Alshon Jeffery or Michael Floyd. He's under contract thru 2019. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/ Edited October 28, 2016 by ExWNYer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't argue with anyone who didn't like Torrey Smith's salary/cap hit but he would not be a "1-year rental" like Alshon Jeffrey or Michael Floyd. He's under contract thru 2019. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/ i keep saying this too. That's why it makes so much sense. We have no one under contract next year at the position other than Sammy and maybe Salas. And his contract is fine. Any decent FA WR isnt coming here for less in march. He's young, can catch the deep ball, TT likes to throw the deep ball, under contract, vet experience, get r done. Edited October 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) i keep saying this too. That's why it makes so much sense. We have no one under contract next year at the position other than Sammy and maybe Salas. And his contract is fine. Any decent FA WR isnt coming here for less in march. He's young, can catch the deep ball, TT likes to throw the deep ball, under contract, vet experience, get r done. Good points. He's certainly a more realistic option than Jeffery who has a $14.599 million cap hit. The Bills don't have that kind of flexibility. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/alshon-jeffery-9855/ Edited October 28, 2016 by ExWNYer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I just don't see him taking a pay cut. Then you keep him at 7.5m per with no guaranteed dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 i keep saying this too. That's why it makes so much sense. We have no one under contract next year at the position other than Sammy and maybe Salas. And his contract is fine. Any decent FA WR isnt coming here for less in march. He's young, can catch the deep ball, TT likes to throw the deep ball, under contract, vet experience, get r done. So what is an acceptable draft pick? Keeping in mind the Jets got Marshall and a 7th for a 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) So what is an acceptable draft pick? Keeping in mind the Jets got Marshall and a 7th for a 5th rounder. Marshall was 3 years older and was a locker room cancer in Chicago and they couldn't wait to get rid of him. It was also not the seller's market for the Jets in the offseason at that time, that it is for the Bills mid-season in desperate need for a WR. Marshall was also a very different type of WR. Regardless of that I would give up a conditional 5th that can become a 4th or 3rd. Edited October 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I wouldn't argue with anyone who didn't like Torrey Smith's salary/cap hit but he would not be a "1-year rental" like Alshon Jeffery or Michael Floyd. He's under contract thru 2019. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/ By 1 year rental I meant they let him play out this season and then when he balks at taking a pay cut, cut him. Then you keep him at 7.5m per with no guaranteed dollars Again, not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 By 1 year rental I meant they let him play out this season and then when he balks at taking a pay cut, cut him. Again, not worth it. Yes, worth it. We have 0 offense outside of McCoy, and the receiver group hasn't had good depth and talent in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Maybe a 7th...we are taking a big contract off their hands, they should probably throw in a 5th.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Yes, worth it. We have 0 offense outside of McCoy, and the receiver group hasn't had good depth and talent in a long time. But this WR group gets open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 He is 27 - Tyrod can indicate if he likes him - would give us legit 2nd option - can redo contract to make it more cap friendly - we get a nice WR at a down price because kid was playing with poor team and poor qb play deflating his numbers Woods to be free agent and Goodwin just cant be counted on to stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 He is 27 - Tyrod can indicate if he likes him - would give us legit 2nd option - can redo contract to make it more cap friendly - we get a nice WR at a down price because kid was playing with poor team and poor qb play deflating his numbers Woods to be free agent and Goodwin just cant be counted on to stay healthy Goodwin also a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Goodwin also a FA Easier way of saying it is: All our WRs except Watkins and Powell are FAs next year. I'm all for re-signing Tate though. Salas, meh. Will need to add through both the draft and FA. Edited October 29, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Swap meet: One trade for each AFC team to consider Might the Pats connect with Steve Smith? Should the Jets dangle Ryan Fitzpatrick? Can the Titans sell high on DeMarco Murray? The Around The NFL team has trade ideas for each AFC squad. Buffalo Bills: Buy Torrey SmithChris Wesseling: Provided LeSean McCoy bounces back quickly from a hamstring strain, the Bills have a strong enough roster to compete for a wild-card spot in the wide-open AFC. With No. 1 receiver Sammy Watkins sidelined by a nagging foot injury, though, the aerial attack has been unreliable. Smith excels outside the numbers and downfield, which meshes with the skill set and tendencies of quarterback Tyrod Taylor, who throws a beautiful deep ball. The rebuilding 49ers are already listening to offers for Smith and would likely accept a mid-round draft pick in return for a receiver due to earn more than $7 million in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Again, not worth it.It's worth it for several reasons: 1. The going rate for a #2 receiver is going to be in the range Smith makes now if not more. 2. He's only 27, fits into the "prime" of the other offensive weapons and adds an explosive element to the offense for not just this season, but the remainder of his contract as well, which paired with Watkins would be nice to have. 3. I believe the Bills only have Watkins, Powell and Listenbee under contract at the position after this season. Woods/Hunter/Goodwin/Salas are all FA. 4. He's been durable and dependable. A good locker room guy. Knows Tyrod too being from Virgina and playing for the Ravens. So there could be some good chemistry there. 5. They are not giving Gilmore what he wants. And they shouldn't. Which means it's very likely the Bills are looking at a first round CB to throw in the mix with Seymour. So it's better, to me, to get a proven WR through a trade. Or just re-sign Woods. But money being equal, Smith gives a team a more explosive option than Woods. If Whaley could get Smith to re-negotiate the terms of his deal fine, but I think this is a trade I can see Whaley making either way. Edited October 29, 2016 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I would be for trading a pick Torrey Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Get 'er done Doug! The urgency is there after today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Rotoworld is now saying he could be had for a 4th or 5th round pick. That's beyond worth it to me. Yes, we don't have a 4th, so I'd make it a 5th and a conditional 7th next year. We can also extend him after the season to reduce his cap hit. The real question is, what Safety can we trade for after the **** show we saw at the position today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Rotoworld is now saying he could be had for a 4th or 5th round pick. That's beyond worth it to me. Yes, we don't have a 4th, so I'd make it a 5th and a conditional 7th next year. We can also extend him after the season to reduce his cap hit. The real question is, what Safety can we trade for after the **** show we saw at the position today. Maybe the 49ers will deal Antoine Bethea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 He only makes 6.25 mil, so we could afford that with it being prorated. I know this will never happen, but imagine taking the pressure off the draft. Give them a 3 and a 5 for those two guys and then we can go wherever we want with 1 and 2. And before anyone says "we wouldn't have a 3, 4, and 5 pick?! Who cares if we are getting starting players for those 3 picks. You are gambling with picks 4 and 5 every year and these guys are both young. He only makes 6.25 mil, so we could afford that with it being prorated. I know this will never happen, but imagine taking the pressure off the draft. Give them a 3 and a 5 for those two guys and then we can go wherever we want with 1 and 2. And before anyone says "we wouldn't have a 3, 4, and 5 pick?! Who cares if we are getting starting players for those 3 picks. You are gambling with picks 4 and 5 every year and these guys can contribute immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Iggles reportedly still in play http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/10/30/13471096/report-eagles-desire-to-trade-for-torrey-smith-not-yet-dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Iggles reportedly still in play http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/10/30/13471096/report-eagles-desire-to-trade-for-torrey-smith-not-yet-dead I wonder what is really being offered......lets jump in and snatch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I wonder what is really being offered......lets jump in and snatch himpreach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 As long as it isn't a 1 or a 2, get this guy. Watkins, Smith, Clay, Shady isn't bad at all... Now if we could just throw the ball top these guys accurately.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 @mattbarrows Torrey Smith confirms there were "negotiations" as far as a trade but that he's expecting no surprises in the next 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 @mattbarrows Torrey Smith confirms there were "negotiations" as far as a trade but that he's expecting no surprises in the next 15 minutes. Yep typical NFL Trade Deadline day. All talk and no follow through. Just all hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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