YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/25/49ers-try-to-throw-water-on-torrey-smith-trade-talks/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Right. So the numbers have to of course make sense but it almost immediately takes the pressure off to draft a WR early. We would be set at WR for a while Well, I think you have to assume woods is gone making this move. So the depth chart would be: Sammy Smith Day two pick And then some mess of Powell/salas type guys Which is good, honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Well, I think you have to assume woods is gone making this move. So the depth chart would be: Sammy Smith Day two pick And then some mess of Powell/salas type guys Which is good, honestly I could certainly live with that. And don't forget Listenbee. Who knows what they have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Well, I think you have to assume woods is gone making this move. So the depth chart would be: Sammy Smith Day two pick And then some mess of Powell/salas type guys Which is good, honestly No, no it's not. Obviously given Sammy's fragile nature it's not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I could certainly live with that. And don't forget Listenbee. Who knows what they have there. he will be Goodwin's replacement next year IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Smith it actually a perfect fit for this offense. He'd be our number 1 guy this year and we have no idea if Sammy can complete a full season. He's affordable and within market value. It also lets us draft BPA next year. It makes way too much sense to go after him. So we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 No, no it's not. Obviously given Sammy's fragile nature it's not enough. thats why i had smith and a reasonably high draft pick. if sammy is out you still have a reasonable 1-2. we cant stack infinite established starters behind the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Well, I think you have to assume woods is gone making this move. So the depth chart would be: Sammy Smith Day two pick And then some mess of Powell/salas type guys Which is good, honestly Actually I am not assuming Woods is gone. Money can make people do strange things but in some ideal universe, if Woods takes below market price, that woukd be a pretty fearsome threesome. And haven't you said earlier that the bills will have cap space next year? Edit - making this move may help negotiations with Woods next year Edited October 25, 2016 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I obviously have very strong opinions about this and I will go as far as to say that if they don't make this move or a similar move to bring in a starting caliber WR, they might as well tank the season. It's absurd they are in this situation, but they are. You can't move the ball with the guys they have available to throw to because the defense doesn't have to respect any of them and can focus on loading up to stop the run. It's the worst group of WRs in the league by far based on who is playing right now and until at least 11/27 if not the rest of the season. Edited October 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I obviously have very strong opinions about this and I will go as far as to say that if they don't make this move or a similar move to bring in a starting caliber WR, they might as well tank the season. It's absurd they are in this situation, but they are. You can't move the ball with the guys they have available to throw to because the defense doesn't have to respect any of them and can focus on loading up to stop the run. It's the worst group of WRs in the league by far based on who is playing right now and until at least 11/27 if not the rest of the season. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Seconded. Smith is a legit 1/2 receiver. Gives us insurance for Sammy and added stability to a position we have none. It's ridiculous if they aren't trying to make something work there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Seconded. Smith is a legit 1/2 receiver. Gives us insurance for Sammy and added stability to a position we have none. It's ridiculous if they aren't trying to make something work there Billsy, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 They need a come to jesus moment about the RB position. If they don't trust MG and LM is injured or out, isn't it irrelevant at who you have at the receiver position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Actually I am not assuming Woods is gone. Money can make people do strange things but in some ideal universe, if Woods takes below market price, that woukd be a pretty fearsome threesome. And haven't you said earlier that the bills will have cap space next year? Edit - making this move may help negotiations with Woods next year anything is possible - but why would woods take less to come back as the number 3 in a run oriented offense? he sure would have to love things here. and even if its a little less - its a helluva lot to tie up in your #2 and #3 receiver while also paying a TE, RB, QB and LT top tier money. we will have some flexibility on cap but on a practical level it just doesnt make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 too old? He's 27. Yes too old. His speed is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Yes too old. His speed is gone. Yet he was behind our db's often ? He's plenty fast. Kaeperfro can't play anymore. Edited October 25, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yet he was behind our db's often ? He's plenty fast. No he really isn't, he has lost his speed, add into the fact that he doesn't run good routes. For the record many WRs are getting behind Darby this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSchneider72 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 In a reply from Chris Brown on Twitter doesnt sound like the Bills will be making this trade. We need help Now or the season is gonna get ugly with No Wr IMO "Bills are not in the hunt there. Sellers market. Would have to overpay. Cost prohibitive salary for Bills cap this year." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) In a reply from Chris Brown on Twitter doesnt sound like the Bills will be making this trade. We need help Now or the season is gonna get ugly with No Wr IMO "Bills are not in the hunt there. Sellers market. Would have to overpay. Cost prohibitive salary for Bills cap this year." "not in the hunt" period, Chris. They have the cap space for the hit of 2.5 this year Edited October 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 No he really isn't, he has lost his speed, add into the fact that he doesn't run good routes. For the record many WRs are getting behind Darby this year Might wanna watch that game again. He was open deep a lot Because he's fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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