26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 @RapSheet As for #Bills coach Rex Ryan, I’m told this is considered his team. He has the full support of the ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 They fired the wrong coach. Rex is next after Arizona throws for 400 yards on us next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He wore out his welcome in both places and you could debate how well he actually did...plenty of stuff out their from 9ers fans that supports much of what we have seen. His redzone offense was bad on a talented 9ers team as well. Do you think he gets another OC job? Maybe he does your opinion on him seems to be higher than mine and that's fine. Just curious. I don't think he wore out his welcome so much as Harbaugh left. He was hitched to Harbaugh. Here are the Niners offensive DVOA stats in his time there: 2011: 18th (they had finished 24th, 23rd, and 27th in the 3 previous seasons) 2012: 5th 2013: 8th 2014: 16th And the Bills offense finished 9th in DVOA in 2015. Objectively speaking, the offenses he coordinated have been above average throughout his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @MatthewFairburn Remember when Rex Ryan said he would be the first mother f***** to go if things didn't go well for the Bills? So much for that. I really wish the guy was a man of his word... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is an excellent move!!! -Tyrod is better than he's playing right now. -We can't even run the ball when that is supposed to be Roman's driving force. -We can't perform the basic football function of hurrying up. -We can't avoid 3 and outs, can't possess the ball when that's supposed to be our strength. -He's never really coached a particularly good offense anyway, after like 6 years. He had a couple good years with Alex Smith and Kaepernick but I think Harbaugh was a major influence on that. Overall, very mediocre coordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 in that he has no OC experience, it should be unpredictable for a minute here. Guy has been in the league for 17 years... obviously that still can mean very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @RapSheet As for #Bills coach Rex Ryan, I’m told this is considered his team. He has the full support of the ownership. And why wouldn't he? Ruining our defense and hiring all of his croanies and taking a once promising team into the dumpster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I really wish the guy was a man of his word... Well in fairness he already broke his word when he predicted playoffs last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Can we have a rule and no longer hire anyone named Greg(g)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @RapSheet As for #Bills coach Rex Ryan, Im told this is considered his team. He has the full support of the ownership. that means either rex made this move, or that statement is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @RapSheet As for #Bills coach Rex Ryan, I’m told this is considered his team. He has the full support of the ownership. Should there not be a "for now" in there somewhere? We'll see how long that lasts...Hopefully only till December... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He is well regarded by many. He did a very good job in SF, and they nosedived after he left. Yeah, he may have to take a lower-level position next year, but he won't be out of work unless he chooses to be. The league is fully aware of the caliber of people he had to deal with in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I have really hated the play calls for the last decade. We always seem to be throwing and running 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Yes! Every time. I always yell at the TV, when it is 3rd and 3 or 3rd and 2 to run the ball. Especially if you are on the plus side of the field. If you come up a yard or inches short then go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Really? The players did not perform I will give you that. But those plays calls were so predictable. It is pretty sad when a person like me who has played 1 year of football in my life can tell you what play the bills are going to run next It's two games! Look at his record over the five seasons before this one. He's objectively above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 One crappy FAT coach gone, two to go. Strength and conditioning coach is behind all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @MatthewFairburn Remember when Rex Ryan said he would be the first mother f***** to go if things didn't go well for the Bills? So much for that. Hilarious! But, when did we ever Billieve anything out of Rex's blowhard mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I so wish that this had been the Clown Show Ryan Bros. getting axed, and said the same thing last night in the shout box. I really don't think that this team is going to get any better with those clowns in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The start of the tire fire. Who should be held to blame for the poor defensive performance yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 This comes down to a number of things, but the horrible delay in play calls coming into the QB must be amongst them. Can there be no foresight and preparation on the sidelines for the next play? It seemed like a mad scramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I gotta say, this is one of the most transparent scapegoat firings in recent memory. Honestly, had they done this after week 1, few would argue...but after letting Fitzpatrick hang 37 points on you...seems pretty obvious Rex is scared. I'd expect the blame game to continue as the losses pile on. It has to be scapegoat firing - what possibly could have changed so much to fire your OC after just 2 weeks? This is unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Should there not be a "for now" in there somewhere? We'll see how long that lasts...Hopefully only till December... Implicitly there has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not excusing the CB play, but the defense held pretty well for being on the field for pretty much 15 straight minutes in the first quarter. I think our offense's inability to sustain drives really killed the D last night. Jets had the ball for over 40 minutes and the D was exhausted by the time the 4th quarter rolled around. It's tough to get a breather when your offense either goes 3 and out or only gets one first down on a drive. I have a feeling that Roman getting canned was part play calling ( that mangled 3rd and 1 , 4th and 1 thing was pretty awful)... and also part him not making adjustments. I think they probably asked him to change and adjust before the game.. and then they looked at the film today and probably saw he wasn't changing his MO at all so they canned him. I think he was just stuck in the rut of run, run, run.... then go deep ...and he wouldn't adjust to the quick game (slants, hitches etc... ) if the game situation called for it. Even with that being said... I am somewhat conflicted about this firing. Roman did show that he could adjust in the Jets and Cowboys game to end the year last by going to the short quick game .. and Tyrod was starting to show he could handle that kind of strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Wow. They had issues these first two games, but the Bills offense last season was the best since 2002. Clown show. Couldn't agree more. They fired the wrong coach. Roman is a good OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I don't think he wore out his welcome so much as Harbaugh left. He was hitched to Harbaugh. Here are the Niners offensive DVOA stats in his time there: 2011: 18th (they had finished 24th, 23rd, and 27th in the 3 previous seasons) 2012: 5th 2013: 8th 2014: 16th And the Bills offense finished 9th in DVOA in 2015. Objectively speaking, the offenses he coordinated have been above average throughout his career. No offense Dave but to me this is like point to the New Orleans offense and giving Marrone a lot of credit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Guy has been in the league for 17 years... obviously that still can mean very little. im just pointing out that good or bad, he has no tendencies on tape yet. i do find it interesting that he was all position coach and getting HC not OC interviews. i always read that as a guy that doesnt have a playbook/scheme developed but is a leader of men type of head coach (ala marrone despite his OC experience under SP who obviously was the scheme guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Rex kickin guys off the titanic! Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @AdamSchefter Buffalo Bills firing OC Greg Roman, per league sources. Roman was NFL's top paid OC. @JasonLaCanfora Can confirm ESPN report the Bills are relieving OC Greg Roman of his duties. Chris Palmer expected to take over @RapSheet The #Bills have appointed Anthony Lynn, RB coach, as their new OC, I’m told. @buffalobills Greg Roman has been relieved of his duties. Asst. HC/RB Coach Anthony Lynn is promoted to Offensive Coordinator. Slight humor. some sources saying it's Chris Palmer as new OC. Says this in his Wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Palmer_(American_football)#Buffalo_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's two games! Look at his record over the five seasons before this one. He's objectively above average. Based on what though? Because of a couple good years with Jim Harbaugh? His offence is figured out especially with Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) It has to be scapegoat firing - what possibly could have changed so much to fire your OC after just 2 weeks? This is unheard of. See: Schonert, Turk. (days before the season even began) Edit: I should add that we were absolutely terrible in 2009. Edited September 16, 2016 by fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Even more hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisistheyear Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I guess I was wrong. I thought Rex Ryan was the reason our D has regressed from the being the 4th best defense in the league to looking like a JV squad. I thought it was Rex Ryan who couldn't manage a game. I thought Rex Ryan was the one who confuses swearing every other word for actual coaching. I thought Rex and Robby were the ones who put last night's horrible defensive game plan together. Turns out this was all Greg Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 really. with the way his calls came in late a HC like bellicheat would´ve fired him at halftime the 1st game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 No offense Dave but to me this is like point to the New Orleans offense and giving Marrone a lot of credit for it. Disagree for one key reason: Roman called the plays, not Harbaugh!!! Payton called the plays in NO. People forget that Roman did a great job under Harbaugh at Stanford too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) No offense Dave but to me this is like point to the New Orleans offense and giving Marrone a lot of credit for it.where id disagree is that we saw a year of Greg Romans offense solo and it wasnt radically different. because he was playcaller both places. Doug Marrone did not carry the sean payton playbook with him. Edited September 16, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He had it coming. No running game, Tyrod regressed, play calling stunk, no-hurry up, no short yardage attack, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 @evansilva #Bills went from No. 2 in defensive DVOA w/ Schwartz to No. 24 w/ Rex in '15. Just gave up 37 to NYJ in a home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 You can change O coordinators all you want but there is too much JP in Tyrod's game. And that's not going to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think our offense's inability to sustain drives really killed the D last night. Jets had the ball for over 40 minutes and the D was exhausted by the time the 4th quarter rolled around. It's tough to get a breather when your offense either goes 3 and out or only gets one first down on a drive. I have a feeling that Roman getting canned was part play calling ( that mangled 3rd and 1 , 4th and 1 thing was pretty awful)... and also part him not making adjustments. I think they probably asked him to change and adjust before the game.. and then they looked at the film today and probably saw he wasn't changing his MO at all so they canned him. I think he was just stuck in the rut of run, run, run.... then go deep ...and he wouldn't adjust to the quick game (slants, hitches etc... ) if the game situation called for it. Even with that being said... I am somewhat conflicted about this firing. Roman did show that he could adjust in the Jets and Cowboys game to end the year last by going to the short quick game .. and Tyrod was starting to show he could handle that kind of strategy. Running the ball... forward... at all. Would be a nice change of pace. Run from under center. pass from under center. We have a fullback - try using him from time to time. Use McCoy as a receiver a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 31 points against a good D , I would not put the blame on Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The 400 some odd yards were given up by our defense. But 75% of those yards were given up with Gilmore and Darby right there. The scheme was fine. The execution was not. How is it Rex's fault when a guy just flat out loses his battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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