YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) "Believeland" sounds a lot like the Four Falls of Buffalo, but focuses on the failures of the Cleveland professional teams. Though I'm but a real fan of any of the Cleveland teams, I think this will be another great 30 for 30 film. Like buffalo fans with "Four Falls," many Cleveland fans are questioning why they should put themselves through the pain of watching this when they "lived it." Because these films find a way to make you proud of something that never was. Here's a review. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio/2016/05/70542/believeland-not-another-pity-party Edited June 21, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 "Believeland" sounds a lot like the Four Falls of Buffalo, but focuses on the failures of the Cleveland professional teams. Though I'm but a real fan of any of the Cleveland teams, I think this will be another great 30 for 30 film. Like buffalo fans with "Four Falls," many Cleveland fans are questioning why they should put themselves through the pain of watching this when they "lived it." Because these films find a way to make you proud of something that never was. Here's a review. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio/2016/05/70542/believeland-not-another-pity-party They seem to be hitting that theme a lot lately. "This Magic Moment" is another, and as a Bills and Magic fan it is getting a little depressing...but still worth watching. I'm actually looking forward to this one; need to revel in someone else's misery for once!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Thanks for the warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Factory of Sadness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Can't wait to watch this and feel better about being a Buffalo Sports fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I feel like it would be worse to be a Browns fan than a Bills fan. Yeah, their playoff drought is a few years younger than ours but at least we had the 90s. They have basically sucked since the Reagan years and there's no sign that this will change any time soon. How painful it will be for them if Wentz turns out to be a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) They are through Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble and '95 and '97 World Series and the worst has yet to come. Poor Cleveland. I understand. Edited May 15, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 They are through Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble and '95 and '97 World Series and the worst has yet to come. Poor Cleveland. I understand. i don't. their cockswagger attitudes which they still have. the way they walk as world beaters. the way they rub it in everyone that the browns are going to be tough. that hte browns are not scared of the steelers or ravens. that the indians are still one of the most followed teams. etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I can't wait to see the Cavs lose again in the Finals this year. What a bitter b*tch Lebron has become. Jealous of Curry winning the MVP trophy. He's peaked and hopefully he'll never win another Championship again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 i don't. their cockswagger attitudes which they still have. the way they walk as world beaters. the way they rub it in everyone that the browns are going to be tough. that hte browns are not scared of the steelers or ravens. that the indians are still one of the most followed teams. etc etc etc. lord ,you are one bitter person. Just finished watching, thought it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 The sad part is how much misery they left out! Cavs injuries last year, Manziel, Josh Gordon, Haslam, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I can't wait to see the Cavs lose again in the Finals this year. What a bitter b*tch Lebron has become. Jealous of Curry winning the MVP trophy. He's peaked and hopefully he'll never win another Championship again. All of the above is true, but honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Lebron win it all for the city of Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) All of the above is true, but honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Lebron win it all for the city of Cleveland.I'm not really a Cavs fan, but if they make it to the finals I do hope they win. I can sympathize with the fans of the Cleveland sports teams, even though I'm not a fan of those teams. I hope their day comes and I obviously hope our day comes! Edited May 15, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I'm not really a Cavs fan, but if they make it to the finals I do hope they win. I can sympathize with the fans of the Cleveland sports teams, even though I'm not a fan of those teams. I hope their day comes and I obviously hope our day comes! I was like that when Lebron went back to the Cavs, but after the sub tweets and coaching drama I'm back to the understanding that he is a dope. I hope Steph sticks that MVP trophy down their throats, if it's OKC no way I can go against Durant/Westbrook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I thought that we would all be on the same page on this? As a Buffalo sports fan I find it nearly impossible to not route for the Cavs. When LeBron came back it was a certain sort of validation to the rust belt. It sort of put places like us on equal grounds with the Miam's of the world. The people of Cleveland have had many of the same struggles in both sports and the economy. The people have a similar passion and love for where they come from. My sister has been there 20 years and my brother-in-law is born and raised. He's just like us. He can't sit down during the playoffs, he loves his teams and just wants one. They've been blessed with the Buckeyes but if a title ever came to Cleveland it would be one hell of a party. I wish them nothing but the best. Edited May 15, 2016 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I totally would root for Cleveland in any sport, except perhaps football. But just as long as Buffalo wins it all first. Does that make me a bad person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I totally would root for Cleveland in any sport, except perhaps football. But just as long as Buffalo wins it all first. Does that make me a bad person? Nope, but too late Stipe Miocic: I Wanted to End Cleveland Sports Curse at UFC 198 “I wanted to put an end to the curse,” Miocic said at the post-fight press conference, referencing the unfathomable bad fortune Cleveland has had in sports dating back to the Korean War. “I just wanted to go in there and do my job. I didn’t carry the weight of Cleveland on my shoulders but I did want to end the curse.” Miocic, who revealed at the presser that he will remain a fireman in his home city for the foreseeable future, said he isn’t worried about the suspected curse that the UFC’s heavyweight division has been maligned with. Dating back to when Brock Lesnar was the champ, whoever has held the title has been swamped in injuries and inactivity. Miocic scoffed at such a notion. “I train too hard for that to happen,” he said. “I want to keep this belt for a long time. Cleveland has a curse with their sports teams but I will keep this for a while.” Read more at http://www.sherdog.c...EIdmY0bficEA.99 Factory of Sadness Sounds like an Emo band I feel like it would be worse to be a Browns fan than a Bills fan. Yeah, their playoff drought is a few years younger than ours but at least we had the 90s. They have basically sucked since the Reagan years and there's no sign that this will change any time soon. How painful it will be for them if Wentz turns out to be a legend. It will be very painful They are through Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble and '95 and '97 World Series and the worst has yet to come. Poor Cleveland. I understand. Plus their team left to become the Ravens and have won two superbowls. Could you imagine if the Bills left and did this: I can't wait to see the Cavs lose again in the Finals this year. What a bitter b*tch Lebron has become. Jealous of Curry winning the MVP trophy. He's peaked and hopefully he'll never win another Championship again. I'm not a Lebron fan but hope he wins one for Cleveland but don't care if he wins one. I thought that we would all be on the same page on this? As a Buffalo sports fan I find it nearly impossible to not route for the Cavs. When LeBron came back it was gave a certain sort of validation to the rust belt. It sort of put places like us on equal grounds with the Miam's of the world. The people of Cleveland have had many of the same struggles in both sports and the economy. The people have a similar passion and love for where they come from. My sister has been there 20 years and my brother-in-law is born and raised. He's just like us. He can't sit down during the playoffs, he loves his teams and just wants one. They've been blessed with the Buckeyes but if a title ever came to Cleveland it would be one hell of a party. I wish them nothing but the best. We don't need him for this. I think the Pegulas fulfill this with their investment in Downtown and the sports teams Edited May 15, 2016 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I watched this yesterday. You definitely feel much better about Buffalo sports after watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Imagine if Ralph Wilson moved the team after continuing to say he wouldn't .. And then that team drafted one of the best players of all time And won the SB a few years later after you went through years of getting close but not winning.. Then Imagine if Tom Brady grew up in say Jamestown, was a total phenom, we drafted him #1 overall, he became one of the best to ever play the sport, we got to the cusp a few times but never won the SB, and then after his rookie deal was up even though he could have made *more money* staying he left to go to Miami (but we didn't find out until he announced on national tv) ... Then he proceeds to win two SBs with Miami while our team is the worst in the league. Edited May 15, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I thought that we would all be on the same page on this? As a Buffalo sports fan I find it nearly impossible to not route for the Cavs. When LeBron came back it was gave a certain sort of validation to the rust belt. It sort of put places like us on equal grounds with the Miam's of the world. The people of Cleveland have had many of the same struggles in both sports and the economy. The people have a similar passion and love for where they come from. My sister has been there 20 years and my brother-in-law is born and raised. He's just like us. He can't sit down during the playoffs, he loves his teams and just wants one. They've been blessed with the Buckeyes but if a title ever came to Cleveland it would be one hell of a party. I wish them nothing but the best. Schadenfreude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I thought that we would all be on the same page on this? As a Buffalo sports fan I find it nearly impossible to not route for the Cavs. When LeBron came back it was gave a certain sort of validation to the rust belt. It sort of put places like us on equal grounds with the Miam's of the world. The people of Cleveland have had many of the same struggles in both sports and the economy. The people have a similar passion and love for where they come from. My sister has been there 20 years and my brother-in-law is born and raised. He's just like us. He can't sit down during the playoffs, he loves his teams and just wants one. They've been blessed with the Buckeyes but if a title ever came to Cleveland it would be one hell of a party. I wish them nothing but the best. I'm with you KJ. I feel for these guys as they keep suffering without anything to root for in their sports community. I'm not even a basketball but hope the Cavs can do it. I also hope over three years they build back to being competitive. This year will be tough, but if they take the Jags approach like Khan, they can build a winner in time. Hugh if given some freakin time can probably build a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 "Believeland" sounds a lot like the Four Falls of Buffalo, but focuses on the failures of the Cleveland professional teams. Though I'm but a real fan of any of the Cleveland teams, I think this will be another great 30 for 30 film. Like buffalo fans with "Four Falls," many Cleveland fans are questioning why they should put themselves through the pain of watching this when they "lived it." Because these films find a way to make you proud of something that never was. Here's a review. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio/2016/05/70542/believeland-not-another-pity-party Disgusting... I absolutely hate Cleveland and the Browns. They always piggyback the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Imagine if Ralph Wilson moved the team after continuing to say he wouldn't .. And then that team drafted one of the best players of all time And won the SB a few years later after you went through years of getting close but not winning.. Then Imagine if Tom Brady grew up in say Jamestown, was a total phenom, we drafted him #1 overall, he became one of the best to ever play the sport, we got to the cusp a few times but never won the SB, and then after his rookie deal was up even though he could have made *more money* staying he left to go to Miami (but we didn't find out until he announced on national tv) ... Then he proceeds to win two SBs with Miami while our team is the worst in the league. now I hate Lebron even more, thanx yolo .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I hope Lebron and the Cavs win it this year. Why? Not because I feel sorry for Cleveland, but because if Lebron wins, he call tell Cleveland, I got you a championship now I'm going to the Knicks to help them win one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Can't root for Cleveland anything. If they win a championship then we are left at the bottom of the barrel as the worst sports city in america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Can't root for Cleveland anything. If they win a championship then we are left at the bottom of the barrel as the worst sports city in america Good point. I may have to reconsider what I wrote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 As a clevelander, the 90's Indians double the pain I also felt for the Bill's. I'm a passionate tribe fan. I was also a huge fan of the early 90's cavs teams. I've grown away from basketball, and more toward hockey (Sabres), LeBron's performance in the finals last year was the most impressive individual performance I've EVER seen in 30 years of being a sports fan. It was him, and playground level talent, and they had a 2-1 lead in that series at one point. Against that GS team was heroic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I don't mind Cleveland. The Browns were my backup team in the event of relocation. Thank Pegula it never came to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I have no interest in seeing them get it before us....none whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3cheesenacho Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Watched this yesterday... Not gonna lie, I really empathize with Cleveland fans. I got a little teared up at parts. Sad, sad Cleveland. If I had to choose a second favorite team, it'd be the Browns. Anyone remember, when they didn't have a team, the Bills had a Browns Fan Appreciation Day? There were just a bunch of random Browns fans getting wasted in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 it was tough to see Byner in tears recalling how he felt he let down the city and the fan base...it was a very well done 30 for 30, and hell I haven't even seen the 4 Falls yet... Watched this yesterday... Not gonna lie, I really empathize with Cleveland fans. I got a little teared up at parts. Sad, sad Cleveland. If I had to choose a second favorite team, it'd be the Browns. Anyone remember, when they didn't have a team, the Bills had a Browns Fan Appreciation Day? There were just a bunch of random Browns fans getting wasted in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'd be perfectly fine to never see a Cleveland team win a title. Their fans are the worst, no one cares as much as them and no one else has had heartbreaking losses. If only one of their teams broke through to win a sports championship it would suddenly be 20 degrees warmer in the winter and the steel industry would open up all the boarded up factories. I know plenty of people who "love Cleveland" and moved away as soon as they could. I thought it was a bad 30 for 30. The beauty of the 30 for 30 series is deep diving on one game / one team during a particular period of time. Trying to talk about 50 years of a cities history and sports teams in 90 minutes along with the ending just left it feeling like an ESPN Infomercial for Lebron James and the NBA playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I did think it was kind of depressing and left a lot out. I also wonder if the kid fan ever finished that burger. Seemed like he kept wanting to eat but then Dad would start talking and he felt like he had to nod his head in agreement. Edited May 17, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I did think it was kind of depressing and left a lot out. I also wonder if the kid fan ever finished that burger. Seemed like he kept wanting to eat but then Dad would start talking and he felt like he had to nod his head in agreement. Another guy who "Loves Cleveland" but doesn't live there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 The Lake Erie Monsters just won the Calder Cup championship. Curse lifted?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 @mcten ESPN announced it is updating the "Believeland" 30 for 30 with a new ending focusing on the Cavs' championship. It will air June 30th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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