26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Jerry Jones regrets not overpaying to get Lynch Most times in Jerry Jones' life, the Dallas Cowboys owner gets what he wants. Not so during the 2016 NFL Draft. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday night that the Cowboys tried to trade back into the first round to select quarterback Paxton Lynch, but couldn't get a deal done. The Denver Broncos swooped in to snag the signal-caller. Cowboys' Jerry Jones: 'I probably should've overpaid' for Paxton Lynch Jones added that he didn't sleep well after missing on Lynch. The Bills were asking for the Cowboys' 2017 1st round pick and if the deal went down the 2016 draft would have been totally different at OBD. We likely wouldn't have Shaq Lawson as a Bill with Ragland as the 1st pick with what was the Cowboys #34 pick in the 2nd round. The Cowboys would have had Lynch and no Jaylon Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That has to make Dak Presott feel great. Good job Jeraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That has to make Dak Presott feel great. Good job Jeraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 He probably regrets overpaying for Matt Cassel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 That has to make Dak Presott feel great. Good job Jeraw No kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 These 2012 tweets from Prescott were making the rounds yesterday https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/04/30/cowboys-newest-quarterback-used-to-tweet-mean-things-about-tony-romo/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 He probably regrets not trading that 2nd rounder that they wasted on Jaylon Smith. This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown. I think Kelly was going to move Shady regardless of who he had to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown. I agree with this post. He acts like a fan - regretting he didn't do something before it proves necessary to regret it. He's got closet self esteem issues with an unwillingness to relinquish power for someone else to take over personnel decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oh no! He'll have to wait until 2017 to sell the farm to get Romo's replacement! Look, Romo is still his guy. And while he doesn't have much of a shelf life left, he's still a darn good QB. If Jerry was serious about getting a replacement, he had his shot at 4. And, for the record, he didn't massively overpay to go up to slots for Wentz or Goff, neither of whom are sure things. Instead, he took a fantastic RB, has a solid O-ine, has a healthy Romo this year (and probably for next year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That has to make Dak Presott feel great. Good job Jeraw i read this crap earlier. stephen jones needs to keep the old man away from society. Buy him a big screen and pretend fisher- price toy phones to speak at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Would have been better off with Cook "Jeruh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown. dude has issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yes, clown talk. I'd love to know what really is going on in the draft room, but I'm happy our owner doesn't spill the beans. Goofy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 He probably regrets overpaying for Matt Cassel though. Hah! I imagine he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Jerry Jones regrets not overpaying to get Lynch Cowboys' Jerry Jones: 'I probably should've overpaid' for Paxton Lynch The Bills were asking for the Cowboys' 2017 1st round pick and if the deal went down the 2016 draft would have been totally different at OBD. We likely wouldn't have Shaq Lawson as a Bill with Ragland as the 1st pick with what was the Cowboys #34 pick in the 2nd round. The Cowboys would have had Lynch and no Jaylon Smith. I am SOOOOOO psyched none of that happened. Our draft was awesome on paper. That has to make Dak Presott feel great. Good job Jeraw I know rite! what a dick move. smh He probably regrets overpaying for Matt Cassel though. LOL bam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Would have been better off with Cook "Jeruh" OMFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 If a QB is worth taking in the first round he is worth taking with your first pick......regardless of how early. Zeke Elliott is a very good running back but running backs don't start for 15+ years and keep your franchise perennially in contention. It's pretty simple math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown. Kelly hated the player that McCoy is because he danced too much and dashed for the sidelines instead of taking the early cutback.....the latter continued in Buffalo last season. He was going to cut him just like DeSean Jackson and later Evan Mathis. Bills essentially traded for his negotiating rights as a free agent. That was before FA, Murray came later. Kelly wanted inside runners but Murray was grossly overrated playing behind a great OL with a franchise QB. Ryan Matthews played much better and I think Frank Gore was their original #1 target in FA. The Cowboys didn't make a mistake not signing Murray they made a mistake making zero attempt to find a solid, reliable RB. Cowboys run game came around as the season wore on....with that OL they don't need much. Elliott should be great this year but in 2 years they might be right back drafting in the top 4 in a year with an EJ Manuel level top QB.......should have taken the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Kelly hated the player that McCoy is because he danced too much and dashed for the sidelines instead of taking the early cutback.....the latter continued in Buffalo last season. He was going to cut him just like DeSean Jackson and later Evan Mathis. Bills essentially traded for his negotiating rights as a free agent. That was before FA, Murray came later. Kelly wanted inside runners but Murray was grossly overrated playing behind a great OL with a franchise QB. Ryan Matthews played much better and I think Frank Gore was their original #1 target in FA. The Cowboys didn't make a mistake not signing Murray they made a mistake making zero attempt to find a solid, reliable RB. Cowboys run game came around as the season wore on....with that OL they don't need much. Elliott should be great this year but in 2 years they might be right back drafting in the top 4 in a year with an EJ Manuel level top QB.......should have taken the QB. A word in Murray's defense: Kelly also tried to make Murray run outside like Shady, thinking "oh, he'll just run through those holes that Shady danced around" Unfortunately for them, Shady dances when there is no hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 I am SOOOOOO psyched none of that happened. Our draft was awesome on paper. I know rite! what a dick move. smh LOL bam! Just a guess, but I think the Bills would have selected Ragland and Jarron Reed in the 2nd round if the deal had been completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Is Lawson worth that much more over J. Reed? Plus Dallas #67 and keep two 4th rd picks Edited May 2, 2016 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Is Lawson worth that much more over J. Reed? Plus Dallas #67 and keep two 4th rd picks Lawson for four players. FOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Is Lawson worth that much more over J. Reed? Plus Dallas #67 and keep two 4th rd picks The Bills wanted the Cowboys' 2017 #1 pick to make the deal. They didn't feel like it was worth what Jerruh was offering to give up Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The Bills wanted the Cowboys' 2017 #1 pick to make the deal. They didn't feel like it was worth what Jerruh was offering to give up Shaq. A 2 and a 3 in this draft was definitely worth it, esp. since they would've been able to keep the two 4s they sent away to take Ragland. This draft was botched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Lawson for four players. FOUR. Three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 A 2 and a 3 in this draft was definitely worth it, esp. since they would've been able to keep the two 4s they sent away to take Ragland. This draft was botched. Botched? Hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Three. Why - a 2 and a 3 for 19, so that's 2, plus the two 4s they spent to move up for Ragland...? That said I haven't had my coffee yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Did every other team that turned down Dallas also botch their drafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Did every other team that turned down Dallas also botch their drafts? The Jets certainly did. I'm not sure about the others, but the Bills have a ton of needs. Teams picking in the 20s might have fewer holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Why - a 2 and a 3 for 19, so that's 2, plus the two 4s they spent to move up for Ragland...? That said I haven't had my coffee yet... Here we go again. If the Bills would have taken Cowboys offer, they would have had 3 more picks in the '16-'17 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Why - a 2 and a 3 for 19, so that's 2, plus the two 4s they spent to move up for Ragland...? That said I haven't had my coffee yet... You wanted the Bills to drop from 19 to 34 and only pick up a 3rd for the drop? That's essentially what you're saying. That is nowhere near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Here we go again. If the Bills would have taken Cowboys offer, they would have had 3 more picks in the '16-'17 drafts. Was this gone through already? I'm saying - they take the Cowboys offer and they pick up the #34 pick, so they can take Ragland at 34 without spending two 4s to go get him. I might be missing something, because math, but I think I'm right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 You wanted the Bills to drop from 19 to 34 and only pick up a 3rd for the drop? That's essentially what you're saying. That is nowhere near enough. Exactly my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 A 2 and a 3 in this draft was definitely worth it, esp. since they would've been able to keep the two 4s they sent away to take Ragland. This draft was botched. botched? ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Was this gone through already? I'm saying - they take the Cowboys offer and they pick up the #34 pick, so they can take Ragland at 34 without spending two 4s to go get him. I might be missing something, because math, but I think I'm right? I take it you missed the debates of how much it cost to get Watkins? You're also assuming that Reed is still on the board at #18 of Round 2, despite Seahawks clear interest in him. So realistically, If Bills take Ragland at #34, they probably have to do another swap to make sure they still get a quality DL at the top half of round 2. Edited May 2, 2016 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I take it you missed the debates of how much it cost to get Watkins? If you don't want to explain it to me, fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 If you don't want to explain it to me, fine. Not doing the trade cost Bills a net loss of 3 draft picks. It's pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) I thought the object was to get really good players, not just players in quantity. If they really believed that Lawson is a perfect fit and elite, you take him. This is a team that really needs a defensive end, and Reed is not the player that Lawson is. Edited May 2, 2016 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Not doing the trade cost Bills a net loss of 3 draft picks. It's pretty clear. Ok, but that's what I'm saying. They could have four players instead of one Lawson. Yes that's net three players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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