atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Keep picking a QB until you hit on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Two 2nds and a 4th in 4 years isn't it? That is a reasonable attitude for me. I am not one of the "take a QB in the 1st every year" crowd but the kind of investment the Jets are making? I like that. Don't like the guys they have picked though. Never liked Geno or Petty and Hackenburg might just be too much of a project to fix at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 But they'll keep failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 AKA keep throwing away picks on a dream that'll eventually wake you up in a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Probable Jets QB depth start to start the year Fitz Hackenberg Petty Geno Hackenberg Petty Petty Hackenberg Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billstein22 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The Jets are all in on selecting garbage prospects until one of them works out. I'm okay with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The entire history of the Jets is one bad QB pick after another. It's really bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sounds good, so long as they have leadership that won't bow to the fan pressure of the unknown QB to what they see on the field. That's my problem with us doing that. Say we pick Connor Cook, how long before fans become a disruptive force of yelling for the "potential" of Cook becomes too much for Management to let Tyrod do his thing? "If you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting with them" Also I don't like their picks on QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The entire history of the Jets is one bad QB pick after another. It's really bizarre Ken O'Brien was actually a decent QB... until you put Marino's #s up for comparison and realize the Jets are stoooooopid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 So, their list of unusable preseason heroes doesn't detract people from thinking this "experiment" is what the Bills should do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 they got sick of Fitz's oppressed multi-millionaire routine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The Cheaters have been doing the same thing since they got lucky with Brady. Their only success was 7th rounder Cassel, who they got a 2nd for from their former GM Scott Pioli when he went to KC, but since then nada. Mallett was a 3rd rounder who was traded for a 7th, Garropppollloo will likely get them nothing when he leaves after his rookie contract, and they just drafted Brissett in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 The entire history of the Jets is one bad QB pick after another. It's really bizarreCome on, I don't like the Jets at all and I am a blind loyalist for the most part, but neither have he Bills. Besides Jimbo who else?...I am sure there were some guys from the 50's and 60's and maybe Ferguson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The only way to get lucky by hitting on the next Brady or Wilson is to draft someone later in the draft. The Patriots* got lucky but they made the pick. If you sit around hoping for a franchise QB to fall out of the sky you'll be waiting forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) The Bills will take a QB today. But IMO anything higher than the 4th was too high for any of those guys when you already have a starter. I can't see anything higher than a late 3rd or 4th round grade. Edited April 30, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Yeah, I'm not exactly clamoring for a QB or anything... I don't really follow college football closely enough to have much of an opinion on these QBs So far I've loved the draft for the Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Word is that Petty is a Not For Long prospect. The concern with him was he couldn't read a defense, and he didn't do enough in year one to convince the Jets any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The Jets are all in on selecting garbage prospects until one of them works out. I'm okay with this.Geno appears to suck, but we have no idea whether Petty or Hack can play. It's a little early to be making fun of the Jets' QB selections. Glass houses and all . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Word is that Petty is a Not For Long prospect. The concern with him was he couldn't read a defense, and he didn't do enough in year one to convince the Jets any different. It would appear to be the case if they're taking Hackenburg in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Come on, I don't like the Jets at all and I am a blind loyalist for the most part, but neither have he Bills. Besides Jimbo who else?...I am sure there were some guys from the 50's and 60's and maybe Ferguson? Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." Edited April 30, 2016 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." Nice work.Another thought crossed me mind- who has drafted QB's well? Dallas, SF, GB, Pitt... For me it would be three QB's that have won a SB(championship) and played at least 5 years. During that time won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Ken O'Brien was actually a decent QB... until you put Marino's #s up for comparison and realize the Jets are stoooooopid. And Pennington, who in his prime would look great in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Nice work. Another thought crossed me mind- who has drafted QB's well? Dallas, SF, GB, Pitt... For me it would be three QB's that have won a SB(championship) and played at least 5 years. During that time won The Colts have drafted a number of great QBs. And the Broncos don't mind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid. Yep, we had Kemp, but he was pre-AFL/pre-draft, so I didn't count him. I'm sure some team can lay claim to a worse record of QB drafting than the Bills, but right now nobody comes to mind ... we're at one -- ONE -- top tier QB in our entire franchise history and 50 years of the draft .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I gotta admit....I liked Petty in last years draft....why are the jets not giving him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I gotta admit....I liked Petty in last years draft....why are the jets not giving him a chance. Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything. Or maybe they're doing a Shanahan/Redskins thing (Griffin + Cousins), but one year apart ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Or maybe they're doing a Shanahan/Redskins thing (Griffin + Cousins), but one year apart ... Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster. Right. Good point. And like pitching prospects in baseball, you just hope for a 50% hit rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid. Bills didn't draft him,he was grabbed off waivers. Best QBs the Bills ever drafted? Toss up between Kelly and LaMonica. That's an abysmal record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Bills didn't draft him,he was grabbed off waivers. Best QBs the Bills ever drafted? Toss up between Kelly and LaMonica. That's an abysmal record. One hit every 20 years, except now ... 33 years and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiant Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The entire history of the Jets is one bad QB pick after another. It's really bizarre Oh yea, and the Bills are so much better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything. The slow-twitch neurons are holding him back. Not really his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." You missed Clod Tollins. 2nd rounder, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Yep, we had Kemp, but he was pre-AFL/pre-draft, so I didn't count him. I'm sure some team can lay claim to a worse record of QB drafting than the Bills, but right now nobody comes to mind ... we're at one -- ONE -- top tier QB in our entire franchise history and 50 years of the draft .... sadness, now you are making me depressed. Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster. Geno The slow-twitch neurons are holding him back. Not really his fault. That's the problem with spread QBs, just like the one we just drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The Cheaters have been doing the same thing since they got lucky with Brady. Their only success was 7th rounder Cassel, who they got a 2nd for from their former GM Scott Pioli when he went to KC, but since then nada. Mallett was a 3rd rounder who was traded for a 7th, Garropppollloo will likely get them nothing when he leaves after his rookie contract, and they just drafted Brissett in the 3rd round. Don't forget Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Levi Brown & Todd Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Don't forget Hoyer. He was undrafted and is a backup at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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