Liberal Protests

[ALF]

Unarmed people being shot could be mentally ill ,  high on drugs , would rather die then go back to prison , police have a tough choice to make in a instant.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Hey Tiberius - While I don't always agree with your views I respect your thoughts and as you seem to have a handle on the pulse of the African-American community I'd like to share my honest thoughts and get your feedback. 

 

The Jacob Blake shooting troubles me.  Both because I see it as a case where excessive force seems to have been used and the social reactions that followed.  I've listened and read comments and statements from various sources from sports personalities to people on the street.  Most seem to be saying they believe motivating factor behind the police shooting the suspect was his race.  And if all other things were equal and the encounter with the police was exactly the same and the suspect was white they would not have shot him.  Is that really the majority view of the African-American community?   My conclusion is they would have shot the suspect under those circumstances if he was White or Asian or Hispanic, or Native American.  It wouldn't have mattered.  And I base this conclusion on statistics that report the number of police shootings where the most common race of the suspect shot is white.  Along with this I've seen interviews where black's are asked to provide a number of how many black and white suspects police shoot.  The answers do not correlate to the actual data, they are way, way off.  Why is the perception of the community so far away from the actual statistics?  And if police presence in the community is a problem why do recent surveys report that African-Americans responses reported that 81% of those surveyed want the same amount of police patrols or more? 

This guy was yielding a knife, he was white, the cops were right there and they just let him be. 

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Those 2 guys were racist POS's but it's not even close to the same thing.  Had they actually gone after anyone, the cops would have taken them down.

 

 

This.

Yes, the racist was threatening people with a knife, nothing happened even with police right there. Had that been a black guy threatening white people he would have a ticket on his toe 

[Sig1Hunter]

Good thing Daytona Beach didnt send social workers in to try to gain compliance from this POS.

[BillStime]

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

A man who's never met a lie he doesn't love to spread  

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

A man who's never met a lie he doesn't love to spread  

 

 

 

 

At a certain point this isnt even on Schiff anymore, as vile as he is. The fact that he  continues to outright lie to people, not with different lies, but the exact same lie puts the onus on the morons who continue to believe him.

[keepthefaith]

28 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

Wolf's answer is perfectly reasonable. 

[BillStime]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

This would be funny if it weren't true:
 

 

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

A man who's never met a lie he doesn't love to spread  

 

 

 

 

"Show me on this doll where Russia touched you, Adam."

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This would be funny if it weren't true:
 

 

It's a strange message.  Republicans are doing the same thing attacking Biden is responsible for the crime bill and then saying he's soft on crime.  It's confusing.

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a strange message.  Republicans are doing the same thing attacking Biden is responsible for the crime bill and then saying he's soft on crime.  It's confusing.

 

Not really.  Both won't be a good look for him come debate time.

[GETTOTHE50]

10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a strange message.  Republicans are doing the same thing attacking Biden is responsible for the crime bill and then saying he's soft on crime.  It's confusing.

what’s perplexing is Biden‘s stance on anything. Biden isn’t tough on crime, he’s confused what to do about it. 
 

Kamala isn’t though. She’ll lock you up for anything, with or w/o a DNA test. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a strange message.  Republicans are doing the same thing attacking Biden is responsible for the crime bill and then saying he's soft on crime.  It's confusing.

Crime Bill speech on the floor in 1993 (on c-span where he said he was one of the primary architects of the sentencing committee), 27 years later, Joe has  apparently "evolved" and cannot bring himself to condemn the rioting and looting in the Democratic cities. 

Why can Biden not come out and ask the rioters and looters to stop? Why doesn't Joe come out and ask Ted Wheeler and Kate Brown to request Trump activate the National Guard?  If he is not soft on crime, he is soft on anarchists, rioters, and looters, instead encouraging that behavior with his silence. Maybe that would be more accurate.
 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[US Egg]

https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/08/30/officer-shot--man-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-holly-hill

 

This merits rioting, looting and more.

 

......according to the LW'ers in here and everywhere.

[Orlando Tim]

41 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a strange message.  Republicans are doing the same thing attacking Biden is responsible for the crime bill and then saying he's soft on crime.  It's confusing.

The problems is the crime bill he sponsored treated 5 time drug users similar to murderers. It was "tough on crime" but not the kind that helps out communities.

[Sig1Hunter]

9 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/08/30/officer-shot--man-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-holly-hill

 

This merits rioting, looting and more.

 

......according to the LW'ers in here and everywhere.

Yeah thats the video I posted upthread. Crazy

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 hours ago, ALF said:

Unarmed people being shot could be mentally ill ,  high on drugs , would rather die then go back to prison , police have a tough choice to make in a instant.

 

...same goes for ARMED people and where police STILL have an instantaneous "life or death" decision......exclude me..my retired cop buddies shared some horrifying stories of their training ......think it takes a rare breed to do so and the propensity for bad calls will exist......human nature/reaction.....and who is to judge whether unintended or intended (for personal biases)?...vividly remember two training videos my buddies described for routine traffic stops.....(1) lean inside the vehicle and there was a trunk mounted shotgun to blow your head off with driver having the trigger...or...(2)....open the car door in a routine stop and there was a shotgun mounted inside the door jamb to blow your lowers away.....cannot imagine the "advancements" today.............

[RochesterRob]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

  You need a permanent banning.  Using the term Gestapo makes light of the millions of victims that suffered at the hands of the real Gestapo.  You know the one that operated in a nation where no dissenting speech was allowed at all.   The nation where no due process was allowed.  Get back to me about the Gestapo when the media is one hundred percent gagged in its criticism of Trump.  When the courts become predetermined appendages of the rulers.  You are an idiot!

[Orlando Tim]

27 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

 

 

38 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/08/30/officer-shot--man-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-holly-hill

 

This merits rioting, looting and more.

 

......according to the LW'ers in here and everywhere.

This is near Orlando and a few years- maybe 18 I can't remember- one of the local sheriff's was being interviewed on why the police used 50 bullets to stop one man who was shooting at cops and the sheriffs response was basically that officers on the scene finished a clip and saw no need to use another clip.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  You need a permanent banning.  Using the term Gestapo makes light of the millions of victims that suffered at the hands of the real Gestapo.  You know the one that operated in a nation where no dissenting speech was allowed at all.   The nation where no due process was allowed.  Get back to me about the Gestapo when the media is one hundred percent gagged in its criticism of Trump.  When the courts become predetermined appendages of the rulers.  You are an idiot!

 

 

 

...stave off stroke territory, control your blood pressure and realize the skank level you're responding to brother....it ain't worth it.......

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

 

...stave off stroke territory, control your blood pressure and realize the skank level you're responding to brother....it ain't worth it.......

  Actually, I am fairly relaxed.  I'm more upset about an opportunity lost over the weekend where I could have made a couple thousand dollars on a quick buy.  Anyways, guys like him should not be allowed to operate off to the side because that is how nations such as Nazi Germany came into existence.  The German people thought guys like Billslime would fade away especially when the economy shifted for the better but they wound up running that country.  Then other than hyper-nationalism no other speech was allowed publicly.  

[Sig1Hunter]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 

This is near Orlando and a few years- maybe 18 I can't remember- one of the local sheriff's was being interviewed on why the police used 50 bullets to stop one man who was shooting at cops and the sheriffs response was basically that officers on the scene finished a clip and saw no need to use another clip.

Yeah. Grady Judd... guy had killed had killed Deputy Matt Williams and his K9 partner Diogi. 
 

https://www.odmp.org/officer/18528-deputy-sheriff-vernon-matthew-williams

 

Q: why did you shoot him 68 times?

 

A: that’s all the bullets we had. We would have shot him more if we didn’t run out. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

40 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Yeah. Grady Judd... guy had killed had killed Deputy Matt Williams and his K9 partner Diogi. 
 

https://www.odmp.org/officer/18528-deputy-sheriff-vernon-matthew-williams

 

Q: why did you shoot him 68 times?

 

A: that’s all the bullets we had. We would have shot him more if we didn’t run out. 

 

Q: Wasn't 68 rubber ones effective?

 

A: No they bounce off and increase the price of your new tires.

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  You need a permanent banning.  Using the term Gestapo makes light of the millions of victims that suffered at the hands of the real Gestapo.  You know the one that operated in a nation where no dissenting speech was allowed at all.   The nation where no due process was allowed.  Get back to me about the Gestapo when the media is one hundred percent gagged in its criticism of Trump.  When the courts become predetermined appendages of the rulers.  You are an idiot!

Shhhh - quiet you

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Shhhh - quiet you

  Yeah, because you do not want your real desires to be brought to light.  

[BillStime]

19 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Yeah, because you do not want your real desires to be brought to light.  

Um ok

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[bdutton]

29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Biden/Harris campaign doubling down on violent protests in Democrat Lead cities.

 

[Unforgiven]

meh was just a white Trump voter *yawn* nothing for the commie media to see

Its getting close.

Edited August 30, 2020 by Unforgiven

[BillStime]

 

 

[Foxx]

they think you're stupid.

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1300177034996482050

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

36 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

meh was just a white Trump voter *yawn* nothing for the commie media to see

Its getting close.

My fear is this will quickly escalate into open warfare in the streets.  As many of the so labeled "right wing" groups are composed of ex-military, pro-patriot combat veterans skilled in urban warfare situations from Middle East tours of duty I suspect any open engagement would result in the Antifa and their followers being slaughtered in the streets.  You can play as many video games and take as many self-defense sessions as you like but nothing prepares you for the real thing.  These conflicts can't be allowed to happen but without police in the streets empowered to act who is going to step in?  Frankly, if I'm a rank and file cop on the street I'm not jumping in between any shooting match between the sides. Why get killed protecting people that hate you?  If this plays out to a tragic climax the only certainty here is we already know who the media  will blame and who the media will portray as the victim,

  

[Sig1Hunter]

4 minutes ago, Foxx said:

they think you're stupid.

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1300177034996482050

 

It seems like the chief is asking for help without the mayor noticing... like when you need help getting out of a bad date and you mouth “help me” to your best friend and hope that your date doesn’t notice..

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My fear is this will quickly escalate into open warfare in the streets.  As many of the so labeled "right wing" groups are composed of ex-military, pro-patriot combat veterans skilled in urban warfare situations from Middle East tours of duty I suspect any open engagement would result in the Antifa and their followers being slaughtered in the streets.  You can play as many video games and take as many self-defense sessions as you like but nothing prepares you for the real thing.  These conflicts can't be allowed to happen but without police in the streets empowered to act who is going to step in?  Frankly, if I'm a rank and file cop on the street I'm not jumping in between any shooting match between the sides. Why get killed protecting people that hate you?  If this plays out to a tragic climax the only certainty here is we already know who the media  will blame and who the media will portray as the victim,

  

That scenario has long been the dream of a certain group of people in the (old) establishment. Two years ago the very idea of it happening was mocked... yet, here we are. 
 

 

[GG]

50 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

That scenario has long been the dream of a certain group of people in the (old) establishment. Two years ago the very idea of it happening was mocked... yet, here we are. 
 

 

Not only mocked, but openly encouraged.  

 

How do you feel now, Gary and the rest of your motley crew?   You just couldn't wait a few months for the polls to decide, could you?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

This guy was yielding a knife, he was white, the cops were right there and they just let him be. 

Yes, the racist was threatening people with a knife, nothing happened even with police right there. Had that been a black guy threatening white people he would have a ticket on his toe 

Your assumption is that every interaction between a hostile civilian ends and a police officer ends in death for the hostile civilian?  
 

This is beyond moronic.  There are a number of  variables that are demonstrably different between Blake and the jackass in the video shown.  These include, geez, I don’t know...different scenarios, different locations, and different people.  
 

 

[BillsFanNC]