FireChan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) You dont have enough data to know whether Tyrod is or isnt a good qb yet...... No, but I have enough data to form an opinion so far. And so far, he's been okay. Edited November 29, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You dont have enough data to know whether Tyrod is or isnt a good qb yet...... So why are you even arguing at this point if it's a "we have no idea" situation in your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancasterSteve Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Bills draft top QB in 2016. Â He struggles a ton in week 4 Â Incompetent bills fans say he sucks and want to draft a QB If the guy sucks, you draft another one and another until you get it right. Pocket passers in college went the way of the Dodo Birds so projecting an already hard to judge position is even more difficult now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 So why are you even arguing at this point if it's a "we have no idea" situation in your head? We can only "know" his positives. That's basically John's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 31 pages after a loss. Can't wait to see where this thread goes after today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) 31 pages after a loss. Can't wait to see where this thread goes after today...It certainly wasn't his worst game of the year. However, as soon as the Chiefs made their half time adjustments, and bracketed Watkins, And focused their pass rush on containing Tyrod, he began to show all of his flaws: locking on to receivers, lack of pocket presence leading to multiple fumbles and what should have been a pick 6, and the inability to work through progressions or work the middle of the field. He actually fumbled twice on the same play.  I had never seen that happen in an NFL game before, so there's that. Edited November 29, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Gulp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It was fun for a half at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nope. But the name of the game is winning not style points. And he made plays to win the game. Terrific plays. Last Monday he didn't make enough plays. Once again. Never said he didnt HELP. But i asked WHEN DID HE PUT THIS TEAM ON HIS BACK AND WIN US A GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tyrod was absolutely not the problem today......not in any way shape or form. Â That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tyrod was absolutely not the problem today......not in any way shape or form.  That is all  Well, I'll say it: Tyrod was GOOD today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nearly 300 yards passing, 3 TDs. No INTs, That is a good day for any QB, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nearly 300 yards passing, 3 TDs. No INTs, That is a good day for any QB, ...and with the game on the line...HE DID NOTHING!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatplow Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 WTF is this stupid post still hanging around? It's proof-positive how ignorant we can be as Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 ...and with the game on the line...HE DID NOTHING!!!! Right on! And has absolutely no sense of urgency during the last two minutes....Maybe that's poor coaching and not Taylor's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 WTF is this stupid post still hanging around? It's proof-positive how ignorant we can be as Bills fans. Not we. It's the same people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Right on! And has absolutely no sense of urgency during the last two minutes....Maybe that's poor coaching and not Taylor's fault. You won't be wrong blaming coaching on everything today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 ...and with the game on the line...HE DID NOTHING!!!! Were you in the bathroom for his final play where he missed the first down by inches? Sure, would have been nice if he didn't have to recover his own fumble, and had made the first down. But, there was no lack of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tyrod was absolutely not the problem today......not in any way shape or form.  That is all He showed off all of his well documented deficiencies in the second half. And yes, Tyrod shares blame. The injury depleted defense, Dan Carpenter, Danny Crossman, and Rex Ryan shoulder the lion's share, but Tyrod demonstrated, once again, that he can't be trusted to win a game playing from behind. He, after having his primary target taken away from him, could not work through progressions, locked on to receivers (often Sammy) waiting for them to come open, demonstrated awful pocket presence, etc.  Tyrod is who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The kid is the best QB this losing organization has had this century, even earlier. he may not be a long term answer. But he didn't lose this game. he is not able too pull close games out. That said are his coaches putting him In a position to win? IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Were you in the bathroom for his final play where he missed the first down by inches? Sure, would have been nice if he didn't have to recover his own fumble, and had made the first down. But, there was no lack of effort.You mean the play where he actually fumbled the ball twice, after failing to work through his progressions? Yeah. That was sensational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Were you in the bathroom for his final play where he missed the first down by inches? Sure, would have been nice if he didn't have to recover his own fumble, and had made the first down. But, there was no lack of effort. If it wasn't for the moron on KC that tackled him towards the first down marker, he would have been 3 yards short. Either way, no first down, and unless there was room to spare, he should have thrown the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Were you in the bathroom for his final play where he missed the first down by inches? Sure, would have been nice if he didn't have to recover his own fumble, and had made the first down. But, there was no lack of effort.He's just too light. Whenever a defender gets the slightest hand on him he just gets pushed away. I'm not in any way putting the loss solely on him, but he reminds me of a little kid out there. Or at best someone who's still in high school. On that play a bigger QB can push it inside on the defenders to get that extra yard Edited November 29, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If it wasn't for the moron on KC that tackled him towards the first down marker, he would have been 3 yards short. Either way, no first down, and unless there was room to spare, he should have thrown the ball. How many of his 300 yards came in the first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) How many of his 300 yards came in the first half All I care about is when the Bills were trailing in the 4th quarter and they needed him to make plays, how effective was he? Edited November 29, 2015 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 How many of his 300 yards came in the first half Do first half yards not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Do first half yards not count? Had he been mediocre in the second half coulda pulled it out. It was ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Wouldn't say he was bad today but he wasn't great. Many of Watkin's balls weren't great throws and Watkins had to make fantastic adjustments to make the grab. That being said, kudos to him for actually throwing the ball up to his best playmaker and letting him go get it. It's what we've been asking for and he did it today. I'd feel better if the balls were thrown better. He had a few horrible passes that should have been picked and struggles with what to do when his first option isn't open. Â He doesn't suck and he wasn't great today. He made enough plays that the Bills should have won with a D that doesn't make the KC offense look like Brady and the Pats. Edited November 29, 2015 by MDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 ...and with the game on the line...HE DID NOTHING!!!! He threw a nice first down pass to Hogan who was inexcusably robbed of the catch then on 4th down he scrambled for 9 1/2 yards when he needed 9 3/4s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Had he been mediocre in the second half coulda pulled it out. It was ugly Had the defense forced a punt in the second half, we coulda pulled it out. What's more realistic, expecting a single punt or our QB to throw more than 300 yards and 3 TD's? Â Call it a day Joe. TT wasn't perfect, but he made enough plays to win. The rest of the team made enough to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Had he been mediocre in the second half coulda pulled it out. It was ugly You will get your chance sometime EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You will get your chance sometime EJ. Hopefully next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Had he been mediocre in the second half coulda pulled it out. It was ugly And if the D didn't allow points on 6 of the last 7 drives? Hopefully next week Shows how clueless you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Taylor proved today that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the long term answer. It's harsh, but the results are the results. This game was winnable and they needed their QB to make big plays in the second half and he just couldn't do it. He was frozen in the pocket and could not make a decision on what to do before it was too late time and time and time again. IMO he's a very good backup QB in this league and I have little doubt the Bills will be trying hard to find a true starting QB this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 And if the D didn't allow points on 6 of the last 7 drives? Â Shows how clueless you are. Both you and I know that barring injury tryhard gets the rest of the year. Anything else is pissing in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Had the defense forced a punt in the second half, we coulda pulled it out. What's more realistic, expecting a single punt or our QB to throw more than 300 yards and 3 TD's? Â Call it a day Joe. TT wasn't perfect, but he made enough plays to win. The rest of the team made enough to lose. Not his best game, but certainly not his worst either. Awful games by Rex, Crossman, Dan Carpenter, and a very injury depleted defense put him into positions in the second half which exposed all of his deficiencies. Â Tyrod gets neither a game ball, nor a water-boarding after this game. He simply is what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Not his best game, but certainly not his worst either. Awful games by Rex, Crossman, Dan Carpenter, and a very injury depleted defense put him into positions in the second half which exposed all of his deficiencies. Â Tyrod gets neither a game ball, nor a water-boarding after this game. He simply is what he is. Right. And what he is is our best chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Right. And what he is is our best chance to win. Then we need to fix that issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Taylor was fine. It's unconscionable not to get the ball into Sammy's hands. It's criminally negligent and it's not on TT. It's one Roman and if it's not on Roman it's on Rex. You do it until they stop you. That's high school football. They never stopped him we stopped him. That single decision probably cost us the game more than any other one. And that's on Roman and Rex equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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