NoSaint Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 IK's suspension was 4 games, right? I'd assume he's back to the practice squad but that isn't a certainty or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 The pros of having Manuel as Taylor’s backup In the wake of the Bills trade of Matt Cassel to Dallas, EJ Manuel becomes the permanent backup to starter Tyrod Taylor. Here are a couple of reasons why having Manuel as a backup to Taylor is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4745458/in-trade-for-matt-cassel-cowboys-make-sure-they-are-covered The Bills sent a 2017 seventh-round pick to the Cowboys for a 2017 fifth-round pick as well, NFL Media's Albert Breer reported, according to a Cowboys team source. The Cowboys will get Cassel and the Bills' seventh round pick in 2017 for their fifth rounder in 2017. Because of previous trades the Cowboys did not have a fifth-, sixth- or seventh-round pick in 2016 to offer up to Buffalo. The move also comes with a salary-cap crunch as well. Cassel makes $2 million, which is a lot more than the $660,000 Weeden makes, and can earn another $2.15 million in playing time and playoff incentives. Any other quarterback would have cost far, far less and possibly not offered as much protection in case Weeden gets hurt or does not play well with Romo missing at least the next seven games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I wonder if the pick from the Cowboys in conditional based on some performance. This doesnt make much sense given what they gave up.... a 5th and a 7th for Cassel and a 6th Cassell and a 7th for a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4745458/in-trade-for-matt-cassel-cowboys-make-sure-they-are-covered The Bills sent a 2017 seventh-round pick to the Cowboys for a 2017 fifth-round pick as well, NFL Media's Albert Breer reported, according to a Cowboys team source. The Cowboys will get Cassel and the Bills' seventh round pick in 2017 for their fifth rounder in 2017. Because of previous trades the Cowboys did not have a fifth-, sixth- or seventh-round pick in 2016 to offer up to Buffalo. The move also comes with a salary-cap crunch as well. Cassel makes $2 million, which is a lot more than the $660,000 Weeden makes, and can earn another $2.15 million in playing time and playoff incentives. Any other quarterback would have cost far, far less and possibly not offered as much protection in case Weeden gets hurt or does not play well with Romo missing at least the next seven games. Another contract extension coming? Bradham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Bills!!! Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think it's stupid to unload Cassel! We may need him!!! If and when TT goee down, I think Matt had the experience to not get us in trouble! AND, all we got were 2017 draft picks. How about something now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Has anyone checked on Vic Carucci tonight? He might be inconsolable. That's what I was wondering. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickenbru Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, if we were going to get rid of a QB, Cassell would have been my first choice to go. Doesn't see like we got all that much for the guy, but what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think it's stupid to unload Cassel! We may need him!!! If and when TT goee down, I think Matt had the experience to not get us in trouble! AND, all we got were 2017 draft picks. How about something now???? We'll be fine. Just because we traded our backup QB (who we basically cut to begin with) doesnt mean the sky is falling. Doug wouldnt have shopped him if he thought we really needed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 It appears that the front office is "100% confident" in T Rod. Entrenched!! Imo Inclined to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 @mikerodak End result of Bills’ trades with Vikings, Cowboys involving Matt Cassel: Gave up: ’15 5th, ‘16 7th, ’17 7th Gained: Tony Steward, 2017 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Should have gotten more as we had Cowboys by the short hairs. They needed someone with experience to hold the fort and give them a chance till Romo returns. Should have done better. Getting anything for Cassel was a coup. Has anyone checked on Vic Carucci tonight? He might be inconsolable. FireChan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @mikerodak End result of Bills trades with Vikings, Cowboys involving Matt Cassel: Gave up: 15 5th, 16 7th, 17 7th Gained: Tony Steward, 2017 5th And of course cassel as insurance for 6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Getting anything for Cassel was a coup. FireChan too. I'm doing alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 And of course cassel as insurance for 6 months That and veteran guidance for Tyrod/EJ. @mikerodak End result of Bills’ trades with Vikings, Cowboys involving Matt Cassel: Gave up: ’15 5th, ‘16 7th, ’17 7th Gained: Tony Steward, 2017 5th Well conidering we cut him before we traded him, we basically get those picks for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The WGR crew is about to go BONKERS again!! Anyone have any loose tea? The leaves need a going-over a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, if we were going to get rid of a QB, Cassell would have been my first choice to go. Doesn't see like we got all that much for the guy, but what do I know? The team literally outright cut him a few weeks ago, and brought him back on the cheap. A 5th for Meh is a steal. At least the Cowboys have a good enough line to protect his statuesque arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He has been. Cassel was the guy that would finish a game if Tyrod was injured, EJ was the guy that would start the next game. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 @DraftDiamonds Breaking: The Buffalo Bills are expected to sign former Cowboys QB Dustin Vaughan to the practice squad @salsports @JoeBuscaglia @WGR550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @jchenelly: Matt Cassel was angry after he was told Tyrod Taylor won the starting position. It was his representative who broke the news to Jay Glazer. @jchenelly: @jhanley2020 In the end, Buffalo was still the best opportunity for him and his family. He expected more interest than there was then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @DraftDiamonds Breaking: The Buffalo Bills are expected to sign former Cowboys QB Dustin Vaughan to the practice squad @salsports @JoeBuscaglia @WGR550 Small school guy that was in the Cowboys last round of cuts. 6'5, 240.... Don't know much but seems like as good a ps candidate as any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Get Alex Tanney in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Small school guy that was in the Cowboys last round of cuts. 6'5, 240.... Don't know much but seems like as good a ps candidate as anygood size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @jchenelly: Matt Cassel was angry after he was told Tyrod Taylor won the starting position. It was his representative who broke the news to Jay Glazer. @jchenelly: @jhanley2020 In the end, Buffalo was still the best opportunity for him and his family. He expected more interest than there was then. Chenelly only brings straight fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 In an unrelated story, The Buffalo News announced Vic Carucci has been traded to the Dallas Morning News for 30 pounds of smoked ribs and a refurbished IBM Selectric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Bam!! Adios hombré. Great trade. Congrats Whaley. Amazing Job!! Imo Whats amazing about getting a 7th round pick? He should have been able to get more with the Cowboys being nowhere for several weeks at QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 @clarencehilljr Cowboys’ trade for QB Cassel puts experience behind Weeden http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article36241968.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Whats amazing about getting a 7th round pick? He should have been able to get more with the Cowboys being nowhere for several weeks at QB... Did you even bother to read before getting upset? You think he only got a 7th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Bound Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Whats amazing about getting a 7th round pick? He should have been able to get more with the Cowboys being nowhere for several weeks at QB... Not a 7th round pick, a 5th round pick two seasons from now. The Bills GM is amazing! I agree, it seems like the Cowboys were a team in need and the Bills didn't get much in return. In a few weeks, with few more QB's going down with injuries, Cassel would have been worth more. I wonder if the ghost of Buddy Nix woke up and got snuck back into One Bills Drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Did you even bother to read before getting upset? You think he only got a 7th? TBH none of us know what he got. So none of us should be worried as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Did you even bother to read before getting upset? You think he only got a 7th? OK I read a different article...the one article said it was a 7th round pick...so we get a 5th and give them our 7th...not bad I guess...recouped our 5th we trade to get him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 On the face of it, this trade makes little sense. Given that the 5th we're getting is two years from now, Cassel alone should have been plenty. Why would we have to also cough up a 7th? I hope the early reports are wrong, because Cassel and a 7th for a 5th two years from now does not seem like a good trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Not a 7th round pick, a 5th round pick two seasons from now. The Bills GM is amazing! I agree, it seems like the Cowboys were a team in need and the Bills didn't get much in return. In a few weeks, with few more QB's going down with injuries, Cassel would have been worth more. I wonder if the ghost of Buddy Nix woke up and got snuck back into One Bills Drive. Doesn't matter how many QB's go down. Cassel isn't worth much. You think someone will give a 3rd rounder or something like that for him. Makes no sense. You still need to be realistic. Now if Cassel was considered a very good QB, then the price goes up. Cassel doesn't know the system, doesn't have Dez... he won't play unless it's totally a mess in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 On the face of it, this trade makes little sense. Given that the 5th we're getting is two years from now, Cassel alone should have been plenty. Why would we have to also cough up a 7th? I hope the early reports are wrong, because Cassel and a 7th for a 5th two years from now does not seem like a good trade. The 7th is also 2 seasons from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I couldn't care less where Cassel is, as long as he isn't on the field with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Did you even bother to read before getting upset? You think he only got a 7th? He only reads papers in waste cans, An insider would have known it was a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The 7th is also 2 seasons from now. But still, why give up that seventh at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 But still, why give up that seventh at all? Because Dallas (or any team for that matter) still has to get a body back in return, and it likely was a deal breaker if we didn't throw it in. It's almost impossible to tell where the two teams will be in the standings after 2016 and how strong or weak the back end of the 2017 draft will be. If the later rounds are strong, there is a better chance that those two picks could be a wash. If it's weak, that extra 7th makes for good currency to possibly move around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 If you don't think that getting a 5th for Cassel is a good deal, you are WOEFULLY misinformed about the general draft pick trade value for players. Only a team in desperate QB need would even remotely consider giving up a 5th for him. The Bills got MAXIMUM value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 If you don't think that getting a 5th for Cassel is a good deal, you are WOEFULLY misinformed about the general draft pick trade value for players. Only a team in desperate QB need would even remotely consider giving up a 5th for him. The Bills got MAXIMUM value. And saved a few mil to boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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