Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 another great move - I mean a GREAT move honestly it makes total sense and I love it Me too. This is a good deal. Some on this board just don't have a finger on the pulse of this franchise. Great Move, a lot of hard work went into this. Nothing is final as of now. Kikos' knee is a concern, long term. This is the second major injury on the left knee. Shady in Romans offense, watch out!! Great Job Doug!!! Imo 100% As great of a RB as he was I highly doubt Chip is the only reason. Go watch the games from last year and explain to me the use of Shady. It's mindboggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroupapga Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I am the minority here... But I absolutely LOVE the move. 1) All we do is question players who return from season ending injuries, but since our beloved "Kiko" had an amazing rookie season he is on an elite pedestal for a triumphant return? I don't buy it. In Rex I trust that he can fill that position for someone who can be effective. 2) When we run the rock well, we win games. The Spiller experiment is over. We just got a top 3 back in the league. I believe that HE will "run til he barfs". 3) We aren't done yet... I believe this is the first domino towards an EXTREMELY exciting season It's funny that most of the Philly boards hate it and most here at TBD hate it??? McCoy is a proven stud and I really like the idea of the legend of Kiko. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 More strange Bills crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 is anyone that is concerned about the mileage on McCoy equally concerned about the 2 knee surgeries on Kiko? Not really - acls are basically arthroscopic surgery these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 And yet, without him, Bradham still went on and had a breakout year. Do you think he's not going to remember the work ethic part of the equation if Kiko isn't there? Come on, you're reaching. It's called chemistry. Of course Bradham is going to go on and play at his highest level but once again it was Kiko that inspired him. Is it wrong or terrible to want your life long favorite team to have great chemistry and enjoy being teammates and working as one??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I sense Rex had a role in this. Despite alleging that the system will be made to use the talent on hand, Kiko didn't fit Rex's idea of what he wanted as a lb in his system. A coverage lb apparently has no role......that what Kiko was....not a run plugger.....but a three down guy. I would be interested to go back and see how Kiko did against Rex in 13.......anyhow, seriously doubt that Whaley did this on his own. I Fredex also done it appears. This is all rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1973 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This Some on this board just don't have a finger on the pulse of this franchise.Great Move, a lot of hard work went into this. Nothing is final as of now.Kikos' knee is a concern, long term. This is the second major injury on the left knee.Shady in Romans offense, watch out!!Great Job Doug!!!Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Me likey. Me likey a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario51 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Good running back, better than Spiller. Maybe Kiko's knee was an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 OK, didn't see this coming. I thought it was a joke when I first saw it. Don't like the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I have to say i am shocked and a bit sad. Really liked Kiko. I would have liked it a lot more if Foles came with McCoy in the deal. But a lot of people said it. Top 3 defense and our coach knows defense so we have to assume they know what they are doing. Yeah, I'm a little sad, too. I liked both Kiko and CJ. I wondered what CJ could do in Greg Roman offense with - hopefully - an improved offensive line. (Of course I'm assuming the Bills will no longer attempt to resign CJ). And watching Kiko in a Rex Ryan defense would have been a blast. Yet, I can see why Whaley made the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Me likey. Me likey a lot. Same here Bro! Bye Bye Spiller!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This is a fail. RB's are a dime a dozen and are only good for 5 yrs. McCoy has maybe 2 good years left in him. And he's definitely not a "ground and pound" back. This makes no sense. I'm in shock right now. We needed a QB. If you are going to trade our best young player then get a QB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 A lot of posters are confirming what their football IQ is in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I hope I'm proven very wrong, but I think this trade is freaking horrible. It's got a Gregg Williams vibe to it - a great player not fitting a scheme gets bounced. McCoy has a lot of tread on the tires - he's up to 7000 yards after consecutive 300+ carry seasons. I'd love to hear more about why you're down on this trade. I respect your posts a lot, but this seems like a huge win once you get past the emotions of Kiko. Kiko didn't play a down last year and the defense was still terrific. Now we have Rex, who with this trade says he doesn't need Kiko to keep the defense working, but we have a giant hole in our offense at RB which we now fill with the top RB in the game (top 3 at worst). The cap number seems scary with Shady, but he's 27 and has three years left. Kiko is going to be up for a new deal soon and the Bills weren't going to be able to afford him, Dareus, Hughes, Gilmore et al... someone had to go. It's called chemistry. Of course Bradham is going to go on and play at his highest level but once again it was Kiko that inspired him. Is it wrong or terrible to want your life long favorite team to have great chemistry and enjoy being teammates and working as one??! Chemistry in professional sports is one of the most overrated elements there is. You're stretching with this. Bradham's play will not suffer because Kiko isn't there to cheerlead him. I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Me likey. Me likey a lot. Wow. We agree on something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Same here Bro! Bye Bye Spiller!!!!! Even though I like Spiller more than you, it's good to hear from you Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLizzyMeock Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Everyone is pissed because Kiko was a fan favorite but after calming down u. Understand the thinking. Shady has had the most rush yrs of any player over the past 6 seasons and Kiko is comin off his second major acl injury and like everyone here already stated Kiko faded in the.second half of the season and was a liability against the run at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 You can easily pick up quality RBs in the draft or have waited until the Eagles had cut McCoy which they were going to do. He was not going to take a cut in pay and was on his way out. This trade is stupid. Kiko is one of the best players on the team and will be pro bowl caliber for 5 to 8 years. McCoy has one to two years left at a high level. Not a good trade at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Love the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Real loser In this - http://deadspin.com/report-from-buffalo-kiko-alonso-jersey-traded-for-blow-1459749225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 You can easily pick up quality RBs in the draft or have waited until the Eagles had cut McCoy which they were going to do. He was not going to take a cut in pay and was on his way out. This trade is stupid. Kiko is one of the best players on the team and will be pro bowl caliber for 5 to 8 years. McCoy has one to two years left at a high level. Not a good trade at all. A bit of a stretch...Not even one of the best players on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Not really - acls are basically arthroscopic surgery these days. except that they are not. ACL's need a full year to recover. some scope procedures have the players back in a couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It's funny that most of the Philly boards hate it and most here at TBD hate it??? McCoy is a proven stud and I really like the idea of the legend of Kiko. I like it. I can see how Philly hates it. Seems like Chip Kelly nepotism acting up again. How do you trade your most productive offensive weapon away for a LB? Any LB? Let alone for a LB who only has a promising rookie season under his belt and missed all of last season to a torn ligament! Maybe someone should go on their message boards and console them by telling them about the Legend of Kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I love me some Kiko but will say the move is needed. CJ is going, the message couldn't be clearer. That leaves an aging FJ and two guys that probably totaled in their career what McCoy did last year. I still think either Boobie or Brown will get cut with a mid round RB coming in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Not sure how I feel but I think Kiko has been one of the most overrated players here so far. Not to mention he tore the other ACL in college. I'm excited about it. Just look at his numbers compared to CJ who is unfortunately talking trash as he is walking out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 apparently CJ Spiller is announcing he has been cut and that the teams have his agents number I love me some Kiko but will say the move is needed. CJ is going, the message couldn't be clearer. That leaves an aging FJ and two guys that probably totaled in their career what McCoy did last year. I still think either Boobie or Brown will get cut with a mid round RB coming in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I can see how Philly hates it. Seems like Chip Kelly nepotism acting up again. How do you trade your most productive offensive weapon away for a LB? Any LB? Let alone for a LB who only has a promising rookie season under his belt and missed all of last season to a torn ligament! Maybe someone should go on their message boards and console them by telling them about the Legend of Kiko. Because McCoys numbers and role in the offense were fading fast, + they unload a large salary. I can totally see why eagles did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 worst trade ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Even though I like Spiller more than you, it's good to hear from you Bill! Brother, this trade would seem to ABSOLUTELY mandate that the Bills go after blockers via the draft, free agency or both. How about Bulaga, ya know? I am absolutely thrilled by this trade! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yep Whaley is a !@#$ing moron. It's official. or is it? is this a ploy? because its too bizarre to be real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Because McCoys numbers and role in the offense were fading fast, + they unload a large salary. I can totally see why eagles did this. Agree but doesn't mean he won't perform well here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 kiko just vetoed the trade with a simple growl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 worst trade ever? For the Eagles? Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 apparently CJ Spiller is announcing he has been cut and that the teams have his agents number If cj was cut someone should be fired. I'm guessing they just gave him permission to do as he pleases as an expiring contract is in the comp pick talk and cut isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 apparently CJ Spiller is announcing he has been cut and that the teams have his agents number Music to my ears lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 worst trade ever? Darryl Lamonica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Shady is certainly not a power back. RB's like him drop off the planet verrrryyyy fast once they lose a step. With 6 years already on him, we probably just traded 2-3 years of McCoy for a career out of Kiko. Will be really interesting to see where this ends up 3 years down the line. Of course, it's always amusing to see how fast our fanbase can turn on one of it's idolized players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) A bit of a stretch...Not even one of the best players on defense um yes he was is Edited March 4, 2015 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This from a Drew Rosenhaus tweet: I just spoke with the Eagles organization and there is no trade for LeSean at this time. There have been discussions but nothing finalized 6:51 PM - 3 Mar 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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