Homey D. Clown Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 this question is predicated on the basis that we are "assuming" EJ is not the answer, I am not suggesting that he is or isn't. If he is not the answer, who would you love to see drafted as the next franchise QB, since we didn't Suck-for-Luck, nor did we Blow-for-barkley, who should we "suck" for this upcoming season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsClinton Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 jameis winston, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Winston, and it's not even close. The guy is a very good qb AND a good pitcher. He has a low 90s fastball and had a pretty good strikeout-to-walk ratio in 27 innings last year for FSU baseball. In other words, he's accurate - one of the three core qualities (along with arm strength and intelligence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Winston, and it's not even close. The guy is a very good qb AND a good pitcher. He has a low 90s fastball and had a pretty good strikeout-to-walk ratio in 27 innings last year for FSU baseball. In other words, he's accurate - one of the three core qualities (along with arm strength and intelligence). The throws i've seen Winston make this year are nothing short of amazing. Throwing guys open, putting the ball in windows that weren't even there. His anticipation and pocket awareness are off the charts. He can run, but is not a very good runner, and prefers to stay in the pocket to make plays. EJ was a good QB for us here. Jameis is nothing short of amazing. Kid is a once in a generation talent. Hell of a pitcher too, as he's slated to be our closer in the spring. His fastball has been clocked in the upper 90s. In Miami (with their radar guys) they clocked him in the 95-97 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 There's only one answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Why do we have to suck for someone? Its about the journey not the destination. Can't we simply just suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Bortles UCF! Although he probably will come out this year, if not need to get him as he will be a star!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 QB Brett Hundley UCLA - plays today (tues) at 2 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The throws i've seen Winston make this year are nothing short of amazing. Throwing guys open, putting the ball in windows that weren't even there. His anticipation and pocket awareness are off the charts. He can run, but is not a very good runner, and prefers to stay in the pocket to make plays. EJ was a good QB for us here. Jameis is nothing short of amazing. Kid is a once in a generation talent. Hell of a pitcher too, as he's slated to be our closer in the spring. His fastball has been clocked in the upper 90s. In Miami (with their radar guys) they clocked him in the 95-97 range. Yeah, I know he's been clocked that high, but in games his fastball is in the 92-94 range (which is plenty good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Man, thinking about this makes me feel sick. Right now I can't stomach to consider another 6-10 or worse season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 We will never get Winston because we will never be at the bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Marcus Mariota should be on your list. Winston is just a freshman. I.d keep an eye on Kessler from USC. None of then will be available for at least another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuklz2594 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 it seems like we do not have to try to suck...we have a natural talent for it for last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I think that I like Mariota more than Winston. I think that both are going to be really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Why do we have to suck for someone? Its about the journey not the destination. Can't we simply just suck? Well I contended that we sucked at sucking for luck, and instead of blowing for barkley, we just blew for nothing, so I'd say we did just as you asked. We seem to be on this endless journey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) To me, the ultimate answer is a new owner comitted to staying in B-lo. But as far as winning more games, we need to see improved coaching ASAP... That means better roster decisions, improved player development, more position discipline, and effective playcalling, I see EJ Manuel as molding clay in the hands of an accomplished scuptor's KID. Sure, Nat Hackett has watched his daddy, and picked up a few things. But can he DO THE JOB himself? -As far as I can tell, the answer is NO. Hackett should return to the college ranks, and build a winning resume there. The man is NOT a viable option at OC. Edited December 31, 2013 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Marcus Mariota should be on your list. Winston is just a freshman. I.d keep an eye on Kessler from USC. None of then will be available for at least another year. Winston is a RS Freshman, just as Johnny Football was last year. He can leave FSU after next season. He and Mariotta are by far the two best QB's potentially on the board in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need therapy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Why do we have to suck for someone? Its about the journey not the destination. Can't we simply just suck? We already do. I think the OP is saying "if we're going to suck, let's suck with a purpose!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Shameless for Jameis? Almost works. I think Winston will be one of the top QB'S in the league for a long time. Btw. I'm still on team EJ Can Improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInMaine Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Marcus Mariota should be on your list. Winston is just a freshman. I.d keep an eye on Kessler from USC. None of then will be available for at least another year. Love Mariota, next to Winston he is the best QB in College ball right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 IMO all signs point to another 6-10 record next year. We would have to trade our whole draft to move from 9 or 10 to get Winston with the top pick if that is the case. It ain't gonna happen, but I wouldn't mind if we traded someone like Byrd or Stevie plus a late round pick to make it happen. Winston is going to be a stud in the NFL. Big, strong, fast. Like Cam Newton except more accurate. I think if we decide Manuel isn't the answer then we have to do whatever it takes to get Winston next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) QB Brett Hundley UCLA - plays today (tues) at 2 pm finished with: passing: 16/27 , 226 yards, 2 td, 0 int rushing: 10 carries, 161 yards, 2 td Edited December 31, 2013 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 How about: "Play to win the Super Bowl, and draft 32'nd." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 finished with: passing: 16/27 , 226 yards, 2 td, 0 int rushing: 10 carries, 161 yards, 2 td Still can't read a defense and has accuracy issues. Holds the ball too long. He's basically EJ Manuel 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Winston or Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Suck for no one. Go out and win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelouie Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Me, I would say Jennifer Lopez. She sure is purrrrdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Christian Hackenberg, if he comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelouie Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I agree. If Manuel isn't the answer they have to do whatever it takes to get Winston in a couple years. YEAH I agree BillsinMaine, Mariota is another good one coming out in the future. I would be happy with either one, Mariota or Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Fitz or Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 IMO all signs point to another 6-10 record next year. We would have to trade our whole draft to move from 9 or 10 to get Winston with the top pick if that is the case. It ain't gonna happen, but I wouldn't mind if we traded someone like Byrd or Stevie plus a late round pick to make it happen. Winston is going to be a stud in the NFL. Big, strong, fast. Like Cam Newton except more accurate. I think if we decide Manuel isn't the answer then we have to do whatever it takes to get Winston next year Please explain "all signs point to another 6-10 season next year." I'm interested in hearing the analysis that's leading you to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrock6986 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Mariota. The days of sucking have to be over. They have been too long and dark. I'm not ready to give up on EJ yet. Edited January 1, 2014 by Jrock6986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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