Gerry Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 What if Fred or CJ go down again during the last 4 games? Wouldn't Choice be the best option if they really want to win, or are the Bills packing it in and want to get a look at Wingo? This one caught everyone offguard, including the News beat writers. Never know what the braintrust is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 One thing about THIS Bills regime, they are not slow to pull the trigger on roster moves... Uhhhh....they were horribly slow getting enough QB's on the roster, and then they overdid it...at one point had 5 I think. (they probabily had to buy more footballs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 There's a defense end slash outside linebacker that last played for cincy out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not strange timing, logical timing. Bills are now out of playoff contention, these games remaining are nothing but the first of the 2014 preseason games. Choice will get his whole years salary anyhow, and might get resigned again if they need him and he hasn't been picked up elsewhere. Choice is a journeyman back, and has worked for several teams. He might kick around the league some few more years. (Of course, the Bills have to play the first teamers against anybody who has playoff asperations/homefield considerations. But, the next two weeks are not in that category) I have no qualms about giving Wingo more looks. The odd timing is cutting Choice outright when there's still a week's exemption on Meeks and you haven't seen Wingo in live action at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised to see the Cowboys pickup Choice with Dunbar going down for the season with a knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Good move. Choice stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In all seriousness, the RBs will have a new look in about 2 years. I don't believe Spiller gets a new contract from the Bills and Freddie probably has 1-2 good years left. I see a RB drafted either this year or next. Yes, one will be drafted to insure against Spiller's departure...but the Bills will break the bank to try and keep Spiller. He may not want to stay however, after this seasons debacle...not sure the OC knows how to use him. His best interest might be to leave, irrespective of money. If they do retain him....then the drafted back is Fred's replacement. Fred is currently, I have heard, the oldest running back in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not strange timing, logical timing. Bills are now out of playoff contention, these games remaining are nothing but the first of the 2014 preseason games. Choice will get his whole years salary anyhow, and might get resigned again if they need him and he hasn't been picked up elsewhere. Choice is a journeyman back, and has worked for several teams. He might kick around the league some few more years. (Of course, the Bills have to play the first teamers against anybody who has playoff asperations/homefield considerations. But, the next two weeks are not in that category) Bills part ways with Tashard Choice Joe B's Take: At 4-8, it would be prudent for the Bills to see what they have on the roster in the setting of regular season games. This move is likely to get undrafted free agent rookie Ronnie Wingo some time on the field so that way the Bills can evaluate whether or not he fills a potential need this off-season. Choice and the Bills were destined for a breakup upon signing only a one-year deal, so if the sizable Wingo (6-foot-3, 231 pounds) can play well, that may cancel the need for the Bills to select a young running back in the later portions of the 2014 draft. Choice's final grades for the Bills in 2013 read as this: 105 offensive snaps and a 2.34 GPA. Through 12 games, he ranked 29th out of 39 Bills players that took at least 100 snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yes, one will be drafted to insure against Spiller's departure...but the Bills will break the bank to try and keep Spiller. He may not want to stay however, after this seasons debacle...not sure the OC knows how to use him. His best interest might be to leave, irrespective of money. If they do retain him....then the drafted back is Fred's replacement. Fred is currently, I have heard, the oldest running back in the NFL. Hmmm...debacle you say. With four games to play, he needs 344 yards to eclipse 1,000 yards (having missed one full game and the majority of two others) And he only needs about 18 carries each of the next four weeks to hit the number he had last year. And actually if he gets those carries, at his current ypc (4.8--hardly a debacle) he'll be at 1,001 yds for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bills part ways with Tashard Choice If they really want to give Wingo a look, then they should give Wingo a look.... meaning, he is going to need more than the 2-3 plays on offense that Choice was getting. Get him out there, and give him some carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 If they're going to give some of the backups a few looks, I'd like to see them try one of the new guys at left guard. Legursky just ain't cuttin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedenstearns Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Now time for CJ's extension! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I agree. Think this is a look to next season move. May as well have a look at Wingo now, the season is dead, CJ and Freddie are both more than likely back next year, Summers has had a good year as a ball carrier and occasional pass catcher from full back and T-Choice was never going to be more than a kind of ok back up guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I dont fully buy into the "cut Choice to see what we have in Wingo" theory...Wingo is already on the 53-man roster..all the Bills would have to do is make Choice inactive on game days over Wingo and let Wingo run Choices plays...simple as that, they get to see how Wingo does and not lose a RB in the process...theres got to be someone else they have in mind...maybe someone to either help in run defense or help offense on 3rd downs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I dont fully buy into the "cut Choice to see what we have in Wingo" theory...Wingo is already on the 53-man roster..all the Bills would have to do is make Choice inactive on game days over Wingo and let Wingo run Choices plays...simple as that, they get to see how Wingo does and not lose a RB in the process...theres got to be someone else they have in mind...maybe someone to either help in run defense or help offense on 3rd downs?? Agree re: Wingo. Most likely to bring up Meeks to the active roster when he is eligible in a few days (?) WAG - see what Meeks has and phase out Leonhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Agree re: Wingo. Most likely to bring up Meeks to the active roster when he is eligible in a few days (?) WAG - see what Meeks has and phase out Leonhard but according to previous posters - thats not this week... which would mean theres something pressing to make the move now instead of later, if they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Merry Christmas, Shitter's full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe it's also to gain more cap room after the season, to be able to re-sign Byrd. I'm pretty damn sure Wingo doesn't even tickle the cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 @ChrisBrownBills Spiller & Jackson w/tribute to now former teammate Choice, both wearing jersey #20 at practice today. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 but according to previous posters - thats not this week... which would mean theres something pressing to make the move now instead of later, if they are right. true, under my scenario timing is off by a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 @ChrisBrownBills Spiller & Jackson w/tribute to now former teammate Choice, both wearing jersey #20 at practice today. #Bills Very classy move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Very classy move. hopefully. also has potential to be not a good sign for morale. id guess those guys wouldnt do it without the go ahead from above though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Very classy move. hopefully. also has potential to be not a good sign for morale. id guess those guys wouldnt do it without the go ahead from above though. Yeah, I have mixed feelings on it too. Kinda feels mutinous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yeah, I have mixed feelings on it too. Kinda feels mutinous. Worst case scenario is that morale is low, and due to the dissension and distractions, the Bills make a series of critical errors to lose the rest of their games. That would be quite unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 There's a defense end slash outside linebacker that last played for cincy out there. UGH!!!!!!!!! Not again........ ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonechiller Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe they like someone on another practice squad. I believe if they pick up a practice squad player from another team, he must go on active roster. My bet is they want to start filling spots for next year the best way they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Worst case scenario is that morale is low, and due to the dissension and distractions, the Bills make a series of critical errors to lose the rest of their games. That would be quite unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe it's also to gain more cap room after the season, to be able to re-sign Byrd. I'm pretty damn sure Wingo doesn't even tickle the cap space. Neither did Choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Neither did Choice You sure? I thought Choice had a decent salary as a 3rd string RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) You sure? I thought Choice had a decent salary as a 3rd string RB. I don't recall the exact number but it was thousands not millions. Essentially vet minimum plus a nice dinner or two, which is higher than rookie min, but not terribly noteworthy. Edited December 4, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think this thread should be retitled to "The Bill's made a choice!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I personally dont have a problem with it I want to see what Wingo has got...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Very classy move. hopefully. also has potential to be not a good sign for morale. id guess those guys wouldnt do it without the go ahead from above though. Yeah, I have mixed feelings on it too. Kinda feels mutinous. Personally I like it when players stick up for each other. Did Choice have any incentives in his contract he was getting close to I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Funny...I remember not that long ago where Tashard Choice was one of the rotating board whipping boys... now everyone loves him! The Bills front office can never get it right, it seems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In guessing that deep down, the Coaching Staff knows that it's over and they are getting some other guys some shots to see what they've got. As much as I want to fight until were mathematically eliminated, I'm hoping this is the truth. It has been a very long time since we tanked ANY part of the season in order to see what we have. Marrone is in scouting mode right now. That's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I don't recall the exact number but it was thousands not millions. Essentially vet minimum plus a nice dinner or two, which is higher than rookie min, but not terribly noteworthy. But could still be used on Byrd no? A couple hundred thousand closer to getting a deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 As much as I want to fight until were mathematically eliminated, I'm hoping this is the truth. It has been a very long time since we tanked ANY part of the season in order to see what we have. Marrone is in scouting mode right now. That's my guess. I couldn't agree more. I don't want to use too much hyperbole--but this is maybe the most exciting move the bills have made since drafting EJ. It tells me a few things--the coach and gm feel very comfortable in their standing with the team, and have probably been told by brandon they will be in place either as long as brandon is there (until ralph dies) or 4-5 years--whichever comes first. Second--and this might be the most important: We have some real talent at leadership positions (front office, sideline, etc.) I am one of the guys that plays with the ESPN playoff calculator until i can get the 6-10 bills in at the final wild card spot. I'm glad the coaches are not. Choice might not have been a "big name" player, but he's big enough. It's exciting to see the organization going into evaluation mode now, with 4 games left to develop ej, grow the offense, see what we have, and what our TRUE areas of need are. This is the difference between being proactive and reactive. Gailey or Jauron et. al would have been giving the company line "were still alive, we still have a chance." This moves shows the players: were here to win. If you don't win, you wont be here, and we'll use the games left that are now meaningless (because you didn't win) to find your replacements who can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe they like someone on another practice squad. I believe if they pick up a practice squad player from another team, he must go on active roster. My bet is they want to start filling spots for next year the best way they can. I'd like to see what one of the big wr's on our practice squad can do, assuming they are ready to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Doesn't make sense to release him, considering his effectiveness as the all-purpose backup. Something must have happened. If Wingo wowed them in practice, why not give him a few carries when Spiller was out? Odd timing to say the least. Yeah. This is certainly a head scratcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I couldn't agree more. I don't want to use too much hyperbole--but this is maybe the most exciting move the bills have made since drafting EJ. It tells me a few things--the coach and gm feel very comfortable in their standing with the team, and have probably been told by brandon they will be in place either as long as brandon is there (until ralph dies) or 4-5 years--whichever comes first. Second--and this might be the most important: We have some real talent at leadership positions (front office, sideline, etc.) I am one of the guys that plays with the ESPN playoff calculator until i can get the 6-10 bills in at the final wild card spot. I'm glad the coaches are not. Choice might not have been a "big name" player, but he's big enough. It's exciting to see the organization going into evaluation mode now, with 4 games left to develop ej, grow the offense, see what we have, and what our TRUE areas of need are. This is the difference between being proactive and reactive. Gailey or Jauron et. al would have been giving the company line "were still alive, we still have a chance." This moves shows the players: were here to win. If you don't win, you wont be here, and we'll use the games left that are now meaningless (because you didn't win) to find your replacements who can win. I want to disagree but I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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