Kellyto83TD Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I posted this elsewhere. Its brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 see bill really is a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Brian Griese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Damn, I thought it was Mike Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Maybe these should be the main factors in searching out a QB rather than height/arm strength/speed, etc. Intelligence, poise, accuracy, touch, produces in big games These seem to be those intangibles everyone always talks about that Brady has in spades...producing in big games shows the competiveness, leadership, and want to be great; poise shows mental toughness (not letting things get to you); intelligence, accuracy, and touch (doesn't make a lot of mistakes). Edited March 15, 2013 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm going to assume its a Bill. Outside of the Bills, it could be a lot of people. So, I'm going to say....Todd Collins. I kind of remember hearing some of those things when we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Billy Joe Hebert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I assume Bob Griese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I freaking love how they compare him to Griese, who did NOTHING in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I freaking love how they compare him to Griese, who did NOTHING in his career. Disappointed. Came into this thread expecting to see something about a leg press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Disappointed. Came into this thread expecting to see something about a leg press You rock man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Goes to show you, Qb's are a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I assume Bob Griese The Brian Griese comparison is because he succeeded Griese as QB at Michigan after Griese led the Wolverines to the national championship. Griese's leadership was widely credited as a major factor in the Wolverine run (that and Charles Woodson). In fact Brady had trouble replacing Griese although he had a better arm and better accuracy. I remember reading at the time that Brady's superior physical tools were "fools gold" and that he did not have Griese's leadership skills, which was true in college. As a matter of fact, QB guru Bill Walsh though that Griese was the best QB prospect of his class which included Peyton Manning. Edited March 16, 2013 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah, all the Griese comparisons give Brady away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Too easy. Knew it was Brady pretty quick, even had a suspicion that it was him when I saw the title of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah, all the Griese comparisons give Brady away. That and the fact that this is posted every single year, multiple times, in the exact same thread question of "name that player" during the season, after the season, and before the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Cannot believe the lack of respect you all show for Todd Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 Oh its Brady. Point being the talking heads don't know **** when it comes to evaluating players. yeah they hit on one or two but if they really knew something NFL teams would pay huge to have them on their staffs. It also shows most of the NFL front offices can't evaluate talent for crap. Its a crap shoot every year period. Who knows if one of these QB's can do the job or not? I know this continuing to wait till next year, or next year, or next year is why we are in this spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I think we should name him Harvey. Seems like the description of a 6 foot 3.5 inch invisible rabbit to me. I promise, no cheating. Edited March 16, 2013 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Hmmmm.....it sounds like Brady but the thread title implies this quarterback has never cheated so it can't be Brady. Hmmmm.....I'd say Montana but isn't he older than Brian Griese so it has to be someone younger. Hmmmmm.......I think Gabbert was touted for his arm but the rest sounds about right. I'm going to say Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. ] Your favorite QB - Tom Brady. How many of his jerseys do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hmmmm.....it sounds like Brady but the thread title implies this quarterback has never cheated so it can't be Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I always knew he was a "system" QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Damn, I thought it was Mike Glennon. +1. i thought it was relevant to this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Cries like a little girl when he doesn't get his own way. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. I thought the bit in red would have been a dead give-away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 His pre draft report... Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Peyton. Never threw a spiral in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The answer is Gibran Hamdan- The Chroisen One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Finally, a Bubby Brister thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The Brian Griese comparison is because he succeeded Griese as QB at Michigan after Griese led the Wolverines to the national championship. Griese's leadership was widely credited as a major factor in the Wolverine run (that and Charles Woodson). In fact Brady had trouble replacing Griese although he had a better arm and better accuracy. I remember reading at the time that Brady's superior physical tools were "fools gold" and that he did not have Griese's leadership skills, which was true in college. As a matter of fact, QB guru Bill Walsh though that Griese was the best QB prospect of his class which included Peyton Manning. I know, it was obvious but if your going to read it as any qb just for the hell of it, I think it was the funniest as the elder griese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Oh its Brady. Point being the talking heads don't know **** when it comes to evaluating players. yeah they hit on one or two but if they really knew something NFL teams would pay huge to have them on their staffs. It also shows most of the NFL front offices can't evaluate talent for crap. Its a crap shoot every year period. Who knows if one of these QB's can do the job or not? I know this continuing to wait till next year, or next year, or next year is why we are in this spot. While true, the number of QBs in the Draft with similar credentials that end up never doing **** are voluminous. Finding a franchise QB is tremendously difficult. How many teams have one? What, 12? Definitely fewer than half the teams. Also, how one defines a franchise QB is somewhat relative. NE, Denver, Houston?, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Giants, Dallas?, GB, NO, Detroit?, Atlanta, and as of this past season, Washington, Indy, Seattle, and SF. Of those, several will be falling off ranging from anytime to over the next few seasons. When you contrast that with the number entering the Draft every season, the odds of success are slim to none. On average, based on the above, about one/year enters the system. Some years it's more like the '83, '04, and '12 Drafts, but most produce none. This seems to be one of those years that may not produce one. see bill really is a genius Yeah, so much so that he couldn't find his way to voluntarily replacing iron feet Bledsoe with Brady, he had to have his hand forced. Then with an extremely moderate season from Brady simply lacking in stupid mistakes, he took a flyer and won out. Edited March 16, 2013 by TaskersGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 see bill really is a genius What is so "genius" about taking a chance on a 6th rounder, sick of Bellicheck a genius by everybody. It actually shows more about Brady's work ethic and determination. #@*&? Bill!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Too easy Rob Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Cannot believe the lack of respect you all show for Todd Collins. Technically it's "I can't believe the lack of respect for Todd Collins from this board." I think it was the funniest as the elder griese. Yes, the reverse logic based on the line "has some Brian Griese in him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Damn, I thought it was Mike Glennon. I did too.....until it said not what you're looking for in terms of arm strength. He's got a rocket. I also never saw the "greise" mentality in glennon. Not much of a gamer in my book. I think he's going to get broken in the NFL. Dude is a string bean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I also never saw the "greise" mentality in glennon. Not much of a gamer in my book. I think he's going to get broken in the NFL. Dude is a string bean Yep. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Technically it's "I can't believe the lack of respect for Todd Collins from this board." True...long live #15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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