2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Did I earn any credibility by saying that he was in the other day? Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not me. Any QB behind that line would suck. The running game was also putrid. I always liked Kolb. Besides, we had nothing. I'll side with OBD on this signing all day long. Hell we've got to start somewhere. And...who knows...maybe he'll even flourish with a new start behind a better OL and a better running game. Nothing says we cant still draft a QB either but clearly this gives us more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I like this...has the talent is still young enough to improve and only cost them whatever they are paying him, no picks Still need to draft a QB obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Pa, don't you know by now Bills fans only go for the 'Name' that the media loves? I mean they would B word if we got Aaron Rogers! And they are NOT going to listen to a future HOF QB tell them anything about how the OL Was that bad and the #1 reason he retired and Kolb failed. I know,some just can`t read into things well. Football L.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Kolb had zero chance behind that awful Cardinal Line. This is actually a smart move by the Bills....did i just say that I can't believe I praised Nix. Arizona did have a very bad O line, one good WR and no TE or running game to speak of. The Cards were 32nd in offense and 32nd in rushing The Cards thought enough of Kolb to give up a #2 pick and starting CB, and not many QB's could have played well in Arizona on that poop team. This will give the Bills an opportunity to use that #8 pick on something other then a REACH for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I see veteran minimum has reared its ugly head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I really like this move. Granted... I haven't been able to watch many of his games, but what I have seen, I've liked. The O-Line that was supposed to protect him, was incredibly pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My two cents is that it is a surprisingly good signing. Kolb is a viable starting NFL QB. He has more ability than Fitz. He had no chance to show what he could do in Arizona behind the poor Cardinals' o-line even w/ Fitzgerald at WR. I'm excited about it. That being said, I think the Bills will still draft a QB in R1 or R2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I really like this move. Kolb was a really good prospect coming out of college. Looked really good in some games in Philly. Playing in Arizona was a death sentence with that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I cannot figure out why people think the Bills like Barkley i haven't found anything to substantiate that what so ever. He is actually the opposite of what we need, a weak armed QB from a city with great weather coming off a bad year who bombed his pro day and is coming off a injury. This Rob Johnson repeat will NOT be a Bill. It will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Depth, experience and probably the best of what few options there were. It's not earth-shatteringly awesome, but a solid move nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I cannot figure out why people think the Bills like Barkley i haven't found anything to substantiate that what so ever. He is actually the opposite of what we need, a weak armed QB from a city with great weather coming off a bad year who bombed his pro day and is coming off a injury. This Rob Johnson repeat will NOT be a Bill. It will never happen Rob Johnson had a stronger arm than Flutie. He was a stiff but that's not why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Now before the onslaught starts think about it. The guy could flourish in our system. Drew Brees was an average QB on his way out in San Diego (even before the shoulder) then turned into a world beater in basically the same offense we are installing. I am quite excited to add Kolb who can compete to be the backup if we get a star in the draft and can be our John Kitna if our QB of the future isn't game ready or isn't there until the 2014 draft. But the Drew Brees comparison is completely unreasonable. He was coming off two Pro Bowl caliber years in a row, and his numbers were pretty similar to his first years in NO other than NO didn't have Tomlinson and his pass attempts went up. Kolb has never had a 2000 yard or 10 touchdown season or played 10 games in a season despite being 28 years old. Those are thresholds that Tavaris Jackson and even Trent Edwards have reached, and Fitzpatrick just put up three 13+ game 3000+ yds, 23+ TD seasons in a row. I like Kolb's potential with a strong O-Line, and I like having Aaron Corp slide down the depth chart. But we can't get ahead of ourselves with expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'm glad they are not just going with Jackson, but this hardly inspires me I don't see a lot of difference between the two of them from what they've shown so far, except that Jackson has proven his toughness and Kolb is a Trainer's room Kid so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I am quite excited to add Kolb who can compete to be the backup if we get a star in the draft and can be our John Kitna if our QB of the future isn't game ready or isn't there until the 2014 draft. But the Drew Brees comparison is completely unreasonable. He was coming off two Pro Bowl caliber years in a row, and his numbers were pretty similar to his first years in NO other than NO didn't have Tomlinson and his pass attempts went up. Kolb has never had a 2000 yard or 10 touchdown season or played 10 games in a season despite being 28 years old. Those are thresholds that Tavaris Jackson and even Trent Edwards have reached, and Fitzpatrick just put up three 13+ game 3000+ yds, 23+ TD seasons in a row. I like Kolb's potential with a strong O-Line, and I like having Aaron Corp slide down the depth chart. But we can't get ahead of ourselves with expectations. Thank you for sharing some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Anyone see Ryan L Bills or was that him they were filming on the news hanging off the side of the Peace Bridge?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Can't even really say he is an improvement over Fitz. Certainly more injury prone. Fits in with the Bills. Edited March 31, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just a guess but by signing Kolb they might not think Geno will be there at 8. If that's how it goes down in the draft they are drafting BPA at 8 and seeing what's left in round 2 with the QB's. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Kolb did lead the Cards to a 4-0 start last year too. What week did he get injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I see what you did there Fitz and fits in the same post. Not too impressive, but I see what you were trying to do there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not buying it.Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 2nd post in before the merge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We gave up the #9 pick for Johnson and gave him a lucrative contract extension. I see no comparison between the two moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I like the move. He was decent, not great, for the Cards last year. Their season only fell apart after the Bills injured him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The bills have cap room this year but not in 2014. So they can afford to take a few chances this year and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) He tenure is just like Rob Johnson, but even with more injuries. Waste of roster spot. We gave up the #9 pick for Johnson and gave him a lucrative contract extension. I see no comparison between the two moves. This time we are picking up the scraps. What do these type of players ever accomplish? Edited March 31, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We gave up the #9 pick for Johnson and gave him a lucrative contract extension. I see no comparison between the two moves. Thats right. some posters are mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Kolb did lead the Cards to a 4-0 start last year too. What week did he get injured? Came in for an injured Skelton in week 1. Got sacked to death in week 5 vs. the Rams. Came back and week 6 the Bills knocked him out for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 DOOOOOOOOOMED!!! Well, I hate it. I'm not even going to sugarcoat it, and everyone here damn well knows that they didn't want this. Even if he's not starting, it's still additional drain on the cap, and the man is not going to be our savior. If we are resigned to suck TJax can do that all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Thats right. some posters are mind boggling. Yeah. Now we are signing a player we know for sure sucks. Edited March 31, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Recalling the Arizona game last year, where Kolb was the QB for Ariz, he got hurt, and never got back in the groove the rest of the season. but, he stood in there against the Bills, and he impressed me with his heart willingness to lead in tough circumstances. (talentless, almost anyhow, Cards) The Bills could do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't hate the move. The Bills don't believe that Geno will be there at 8 an do not like anyone enough to use the 8th pick on a QB. Someone has to play the position. They will draft a guy in round 2 or later (assuming Geno is gone) and build the rest of the team. Next year is the time to get your franchise guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Does this sound like desperation to anyone else? They cut a mediocre Fitzpatrick for a mediocre Kolb? What a franchise! Actually, at the risk of having the naysayers rev up their flamethrowers, this is continuing to validate the sense that things are changing, IMO. I'm not saying that Kolb will be the answer, but he has a better chance than Fitz, and comes cheaper. They are not beholden to him, so will likely take a QB early in the draft, but not feel compelled to "overspend" at #8 for one who doesn't justify the pick. QB has been an issue, and they're finally addressing it, starting with the stance they took with Fitz to either restructure and fight for the job, or they'd cut him. As for that #8 pick, signing Kolb gives them the option to go BPA or see if they can't trade back and increase the spoils. Also, they've cut some dead wood from the roster, something they've been loathe to do in the past. They hired a coach that at least more than one team was interested in and has even been touted as a hot commodity, one with a background in offense, who then brought in an aggressive defensive coordinator who has been associated with some pretty good defenses in the last five years, and who wants to prove he wasn't Rex Ryan's puppet. While some will point to not signing Levitre as the same old same old, given the money he got, I would have been more upset if we retained him given the position he plays. They signed a decent LB for reasonable money. They even made a pitch to bring in a TE with some big-time skill (if he recovers from the achilles, of course). It feels like there is a plan in place, and they are trying to see it through, finally. While breaking that playoff-less streak is not likely this coming season, I don't think it will be as lousy as last season. We may actually be witnessing this team finding a direction for the first time since the late '90s. Edited March 31, 2013 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billstolast Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Now before the onslaught starts think about it. The guy could flourish in our system. Drew Brees was an average QB on his way out in San Diego (even before the shoulder) then turned into a world beater in basically the same offense we are installing. Are you telling me Marrone didn't have some impute on the guy before us making him an offer? I agree why not? Has he ever had a solid ol or a running game? He is like marrone to me unproven track record, but I am hoping for the best I am not saying he is the answer, but it is strange to me they make a push for a guy who is a former starter, who will expect to compete or even get the job AFTER looking at all of these QB's in the draft. Then again maybe he is a backup an that is the plan, but don't be shocked if they go with Cordarrelle Patterson at #8 instead of QB now or even trade down a couple spots if they get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Memory refresher on "beating the Pats" this past season: http://espn.go.com/n...ameId=320916017 Blocked punt set up a TD, defense harrassed Brady all day, Gostkowski missed a 42-yarder. Pats missed a game-tying 2pt conversion. Kolb was 15 of 27 passes for 140 yards. That's fine, but not impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah. Now we are signing a player we know for sure sucks. Like drafting Nassib?I`ll take Kolb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'm not a fan of this move at all but I'll have to accept it. I'm just really hoping they still take a QB early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 i guess we can have two back up qb's......just adds depth...lol. been a fan for over 20 yrs...bout have my foot out the door Like drafting Nassib?I`ll take Kolb. we know what we are getting with kolb....and bills still took him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 i think this is a move that makes me think the bills are planning on getting a qb next year. kolb is made out of glass. why would he be considered a viable starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I also think that this is a good move. The guy has some talent and he really did show some heart behind that awful Cardinal offensive line. He definitely is worth a shot. The added benefit is that the Bills do not have to reach in any round for a QB. They can stick to their board. If there is a QB available that they have rated highly enough to pick where they pick in any particular round (whether it be the first, second . . . or any other round), they Bills can pick him. If not, move on and pick the best player available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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