OK, I Am Not Impartial.....

[Bill from NYC]

but I am ready to predict that this kid will be at least as good as Patrick Willis. Yeah, I said this.

If, IF IF IF IF IF Kyle Williams comes back healthy, I am thinking that this player, along with Dareus, could possibly provide the Bills with the best defensive middle in the NFL.

Opinions please.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXsxoisEmxQ

[Nanker]

Ya godda no, the furst pik will bee from the SEC.

 

Call me Crimson Fool.

[Bill from NYC]

Call me Crimson Fool.

 

Call me Deacon Blues.

[LeviF]

Call me Deacon Blues.

Fagen better be our first pick, or else I'm so friggin' done with this team.

[3rdand12]

call me steely dan or aja, but what the heck. Kyle not healthy. How dare you?!

I thought we are set at Sheppard? This is like the Luke Kuechly thing. Why dont we get D. Poe then. We need the strong side guy

real bad . Even if we sign Morrison, which we should.

Can D H do that for us? no offense of course.

[BuffaloBillsSD]

Bill, you like him over Upshaw? I have watched a decent amount of both and I think Upshaw is the better of the two.

[ndirish1978]

He'll go a 3-4 team and start for them for 10 years. I'm actually quite happy with Shep. You know the interesting thing is that this draft has WAY more 3-4 talent than last year's. I almost wish we weren't converting back to a 4-3

[cantankerous]

Dude looks vicious!

[K-9]

He's a good player, Bill. But I can't see ANY resemblance to Patrick Willis.

 

GO SABRES!!!

[NewEra]

He's good, but I don't think he'll ever be as good as Willis. Not many have been or will as good as him. He's one of those once in a decade types IMO. I don't think we select him either

[JohnC]

but I am ready to predict that this kid will be at least as good as Patrick Willis. Yeah, I said this.

If, IF IF IF IF IF Kyle Williams comes back healthy, I am thinking that this player, along with Dareus, could possibly provide the Bills with the best defensive middle in the NFL.

Opinions please.

 

youtube.com/watch?v=DXsxoisEmxQ

 

Bill, You got to stop falling in love with certain players and then getting fixated on them to the point of it becoming an obsession. Last year you were wedded to Mallett, who ended up being drafted in the third round. Your comparison of Hightower to Patrick Willis is a tad over the top. I like Upshaw and also Hightower. If the Bills took Upshaw at the ten spot I would not find it unacceptable. If they took Hightower at the ten spot I would be very upset.

 

The thought of drafting Hightower with the first pick makes absolutely little sense especially with Sheppard being the designated MLB. The Bills have a variety of needs. What I want Nix to do is to draft a player ranked in the vicinity of where they are selecting. You can make the case for Upshaw but you can't do it with Hightower.

 

As it stands I would love to see Nix trade down and get an extra pick or two. There are a number of comparable DEs that would be good value picks lower in the first round. If Nix stands pat with his first pick I would prefer that he took one of the OTs and get the OL solidified.

[Kevin]

call me steely dan or aja, but what the heck. Kyle not healthy. How dare you?!

I thought we are set at Sheppard? This is like the Luke Kuechly thing. Why dont we get D. Poe then. We need the strong side guy

real bad . Even if we sign Morrison, which we should.

Can D H do that for us? no offense of course.

 

Call me Wham, or Culture Club, or whateva, but at 10? I have a funny feeling they will reach for Brockers because of the Kyle Williams link.

[Dragonborn10]

Martin or DeCastro at #10, then a DE and OLB in second and third rounds, followed by a WR project, a center, a CB, and TE in no particular order... If they sign a pass rusher in FA then move WR to the second round.

[John from Riverside]

Call me Wham, or Culture Club, or whateva, but at 10? I have a funny feeling they will reach for Brockers because of the Kyle Williams link.

ers

 

I dont think Nix would think like that.....we have the interior of our defensive line pretty well set both with start wers and backups....

 

What we doont have are freaky pass rushers to come off the edges

[Bill from NYC]

Bill, You got to stop falling in love with certain players and then getting fixated on them to the point of it becoming an obsession. Last year you were wedded to Mallett, who ended up being drafted in the third round. Your comparison of Hightower to Patrick Willis is a tad over the top. I like Upshaw and also Hightower. If the Bills took Upshaw at the ten spot I would not find it unacceptable. If they took Hightower at the ten spot I would be very upset.

 

The thought of drafting Hightower with the first pick makes absolutely little sense especially with Sheppard being the designated MLB. The Bills have a variety of needs. What I want Nix to do is to draft a player ranked in the vicinity of where they are selecting. You can make the case for Upshaw but you can't do it with Hightower.

 

As it stands I would love to see Nix trade down and get an extra pick or two. There are a number of comparable DEs that would be good value picks lower in the first round. If Nix stands pat with his first pick I would prefer that he took one of the OTs and get the OL solidified.

 

They could trade down and draft this kid.

 

As far as Mallett, who knew he had substance, and even perhaps other issues? Actually, I still wish they had drafted him before NE.

 

Bill, you like him over Upshaw? I have watched a decent amount of both and I think Upshaw is the better of the two.

 

Upshaw is fantastic, but he might be better suited for 3/4. Not too sure.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

but I am ready to predict that this kid will be at least as good as Patrick Willis. Yeah, I said this.

If, IF IF IF IF IF Kyle Williams comes back healthy, I am thinking that this player, along with Dareus, could possibly provide the Bills with the best defensive middle in the NFL.

Opinions please.

 

youtube.com/watch?v=DXsxoisEmxQ

Hightower is awesome and better than upshaw and would be stoked to have him on the strongside but don't think he fits Dave's speedy cover LBs.

 

Fagen better be our first pick, or else I'm so friggin' done with this team.

Who?

[T master]

ABSOLUTELY not sure at #10 ?? After i saw Upshaw at the combine & how slow he looked & through watching film Hightower just seemed to be a better fit for what we are looking for ..

 

I like Ingram the guys got game & he's versatile but i but i wouldn't be hurt at all if they took Hightower , i think he'll be a great player !!

Edited March 6, 2012 by T master

[ajzepp]

Brother Bill, I had no idea you were a huge Bama fan...I can't stand that team, especially Saban, but I would have no problem turning another one of their front 7 players on D into a Buffalo Bill I've been pretty sold on Upshaw for a while...I'd love to see him in B-lo. As long as we don't draft any skill players or DBs with our first pick, I'll be happy. I want a big, bad snarly sumbiatch for the defense.

[JohnC]

They could trade down and draft this kid.

 

Trade down to address a lesser priority. That doesn't seem to be the right way to go.

At draft times you can be like a pre-teen at a Justin Bieber concert who gets consumed by the particular attraction on stage.

 

As far as Mallett, who knew he had substance, and even perhaps other issues?

 

The issue isn't who knew but rather who didn't know that he had a number of issues to contend with. It's like saying that one is surprised that Liberace was gay!!! It is understandable that you didn't know about Rock Hudson, but Liberace?

[BuffalooByrd]

Call me Wham, or Culture Club, or whateva, but at 10? I have a funny feeling they will reach for Brockers because of the Kyle Williams link.

 

Brockers wouldn't be a reach at 10

[The Senator]

but I am ready to predict that this kid will be at least as good as Patrick Willis. Yeah, I said this.

If, IF IF IF IF IF Kyle Williams comes back healthy, I am thinking that this player, along with Dareus, could possibly provide the Bills with the best defensive middle in the NFL.

Opinions please.

 

youtube.com/watch?v=DXsxoisEmxQ

 

Other than knowing that Iowa and Wisconsin are basically O-line factories, Bill, I'm actually fairly impartial when it comes to schools - but certainly have no problems with drafting 'bama's entire D this year!!!!

 

Anyway, I was just putting the final touches on my '2012 Bills' Dream Draft' as I read your post - here' goes nothin'...

 

 

R1 - David DeCastro, RG, Stanford (6'5", 310 lbs.)

R2 - Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama (6'4", 260 lbs.)

R3 - Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse (6'5", 265 lbs.)

R4a-Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech (6'5", 206 lbs.)

R4b-Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin (6'4", 315 lbs.)

R5a-Terrell Manning, OLB, NC State (6'3", 233 lbs.)

R5b-Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M (6'4", 220 lbs.)

R6 - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona (6'5", 240 lbs.)

R7a-Levi Adcock, RT, Oklahoma State (6'5", 322 lbs.)

R7b-Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska (6'4", 279 lbs.)

 

 

And, as always, not a single one of these picks will will happen!

 

 

BTW - in the long run, you & I will be proven right about Ryan Mallet (just as I will about Graham Harrell, whom the Bills FINALLY tried to steal from GB late last season) - Mallett will be the stud/standout QB in NE* for years to come after Brady* retires!

 

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

"I expect to win every game!" - Chan Gailey

19 and 0 baby!!!!!

 

.

Edited March 6, 2012 by The Senator

[Maury Ballstein]

They could trade down and draft this kid.

 

As far as Mallett, who knew he had substance, and even perhaps other issues? Actually, I still wish they had drafted him before NE.

 

 

 

Upshaw is fantastic, but he might be better suited for 3/4. Not too sure.

 

 

Mallett's arm > Fitz's arm Wish we would have used a 3rd 4th rounder on him...

[bowery4]

I like Hightower as a DE, so I think it has to be a 2nd round choice (if the FO is thinking of taking him that is), I don't really expect he will last until then. I think Upshaw is good too and he forsure isn't going to last until then. I wish we could draft them both. I have a bad feeling BINYC that your worst nightmare is going to happen in this draft and the Bills will draft a CB at number 10 (which I am not exactly crazy about either). It is just a feeling I have (with the probable BPAs available when I work out a draft). It all depends on FA though. So I will not pin it down in a thread yet.

I would almost be willing to use a 10 on him but I am not sure the FO will. I really think if Bell signs or not they will go LT or CB (at this point based on ratings of what is out there).

[3rdand12]

Tell me why you like Hightower at DE. seriously. ILB to DE? i have not watched any tape and i have read only some.

I don't like where we are sitting this year either. the dire need of pass rushers is almost blinding and not feeling good at ten for any of them. I dont feel that we need to draft a LT this year at ten either. Bell might play a full season and Hairston is servicable.

Wr, because we need and might be the pick but i think their are enough later in draft and the Fa is just starting up. A corner might be the pick. None of these thrill me like last years options at #3 of course.

[Nanker]

_{Gotta love the intensity of this kid. If we don't get him, we'd better get someone like him.}

_{That's the key to this team getting better, and I have confidence that Buddy and Chan get that - you've got to have tough, tough players to win. That's an absolute. It's why I have faith in their plan. From day one they took the loofah sponges out of the showers and put in sandpaper towels.}

[DrDawkinstein]

Id like to see us trade up from our 2nd pick and get Hightower in the late 1st/early 2nd. He could become one of our OLBs in the 43.

 

I'll take anyone from that Bama D, when we can get a chance to get them in a good spot.

[Lurker]

 

Opinions please.

 

 

It doesn't happen often, but I agree with you on this one.

 

Hightower seems to have the "it factor" the Bills have lacked for a long, long, loooong time. Love to have him somehow, someway...

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Mallett's arm > Fitz's arm Wish we would have used a 3rd 4th rounder on him...

 

However as we all know, arm strength is a very small part of the overall equation.

[NoSaint]

However as we all know, arm strength is a very small part of the overall equation.

 

And much to mallets dismay last April, it became obvious that meth use is a small part too. Though not small enough to drop him to the 7th like fitz. An interesting case study really. (not even trying to comment on eithers successes in the league - I just started typing a snarky comment about mallet and meth and trailed into a realization that he really didn't slide that far when you think about it)

Edited March 7, 2012 by NoSaint

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Other than knowing that Iowa and Wisconsin are basically O-line factories, Bill, I'm actually fairly impartial when it comes to schools - but certainly have no problems with drafting 'bama's entire D this year!!!!

 

Anyway, I was just putting the final touches on my '2012 Bills' Dream Draft' as I read your post - here' goes nothin'...

 

 

R1 - David DeCastro, RG, Stanford (6'5", 310 lbs.)

R2 - Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama (6'4", 260 lbs.)

R3 - Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse (6'5", 265 lbs.)

R4a-Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech (6'5", 206 lbs.)

R4b-Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin (6'4", 315 lbs.)

R5a-Terrell Manning, OLB, NC State (6'3", 233 lbs.)

R5b-Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M (6'4", 220 lbs.)

R6 - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona (6'5", 240 lbs.)

R7a-Levi Adcock, RT, Oklahoma State (6'5", 322 lbs.)

R7b-Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska (6'4", 279 lbs.)

 

 

And, as always, not a single one of these picks will will happen!

 

 

BTW - in the long run, you & I will be proven right about Ryan Mallet (just as I will about Graham Harrell, whom the Bills FINALLY tried to steal from GB late last season) - Mallett will be the stud/standout QB in NE* for years to come after Brady* retires!

 

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

"I expect to win every game!" - Chan Gailey

19 and 0 baby!!!!!

 

.

Very nice senator but no way in the world is Crick going in the 7th rnd, we will be lucky to get him in the 2nd. Also a little heavy on the O-line going to need some more pass rush and corners.

[The Senator]

Very nice senator but no way in the world is Crick going in the 7th rnd, we will be lucky to get him in the 2nd. Also a little heavy on the O-line going to need some more pass rush and corners.

Thanks BB - my dream draft is just that - plus it is pre Free Agency acquisitions and losses, which obviously could change our needs somewhat. However, I stand by my opinion of Crick - I see slow, damaged goods and lots of weaknesses. I see him going in round 7 or being signed as an undrafted FA.

 

As for my proclivity toward stacking the o-line, B², my reasoning should be obvious...

 

It would be natural to assume that Mike Leach's spread offense would lead the coach to make quarterbacks and receivers his top priority in recruiting. His first recruiting class at Washington State...with the addition of 28 players, suggests otherwise. Leach and the Cougars received letters of intent from seven offensive linemen, a total that makes up a quarter of their total signees. That wasn't by accident.

 

"This is a little-known fact -- and part of it is because our quarterbacks have gotten tremendous stats over the years, we've got two marquee receivers in the NFL with Wes Welker and Michael Crabtree -- but the single position we have the most guys in the NFL is offensive line. It's probably the position I cherish the most because I coached offensive line for 10 years...Offensive line and defensive line is why they have football to begin with, so you can see huge people collide with others of various shapes and sizes." - Mike Leach

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

 

19 and 0 baby!!!!!

.

Edited March 7, 2012 by The Senator

[thewildrabbit]

Very nice senator but no way in the world is Crick going in the 7th rnd, we will be lucky to get him in the 2nd. Also a little heavy on the O-line going to need some more pass rush and corners.

 

Not just Crick, Stephan Hill is a projected 2nd or 3rd rounder who might go late in the first round due to his combine workout.

 

DeCastro is another strange pick for me, and although I like the guy, the Bills need help at OT. I can see Reiff or Martin depending on what the Dolphins do, and if they sign Manning.

 

 

 

 

BTW, Mallett was selected by the Patriots as trade bait IMO, and they will continue to try and make him look good in pre season games so they can get a #1 from some fool team. That guy would have become hamburger behind the Bills line the last two years

[C.Biscuit97]

Bill, I was getting on the Upshaw train but he doesn't seem like the explosive pass rusher you take at #10. Still, he was a productive player in the SEC so what are your feelings about him as a pro?

 

Still, it's pretty hard to discount anyone from Bama. They run a pro style defense and Saban is a db but he is a great defensive coach. Personally, I think their safety (forget his name right now) will be the best pro from this group.

[section122]

Bill, I was getting on the Upshaw train but he doesn't seem like the explosive pass rusher you take at #10. Still, he was a productive player in the SEC so what are your feelings about him as a pro?

 

Still, it's pretty hard to discount anyone from Bama. They run a pro style defense and Saban is a db but he is a great defensive coach. Personally, I think their safety (forget his name right now) will be the best pro from this group.

Mark Barron I believe

[The Senator]

BTW, Mallett was selected by the Patriots as trade bait IMO, and they will continue to try and make him look good in pre season games so they can get a #1 from some fool team. That guy would have become hamburger behind the Bills line the last two years

You mean while he was playing QB at Arkansas????

 

(You do realize that Mallett was an NFL rookie last season, yes? Did Fitz get killed playing behind the Bills o-line last season?)

 

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

 

19 and 0 baby!!!!!

.

Edited March 7, 2012 by The Senator

[BobChalmers]

He'll go a 3-4 team and start for them for 10 years. I'm actually quite happy with Shep. You know the interesting thing is that this draft has WAY more 3-4 talent than last year's. I almost wish we weren't converting back to a 4-3

 

Sigh - really true. This is the first time I can remember there being a surplus of 3-4 players in the draft.

 

I've been arguing the last couple years we should have stuck with 4-3 because it's harder to get the 3-4 players, but that sure isn't fitting the facts this year.

 

Maybe I'll hold out hope that being a 4-3 team will make the Bills more attractive to Super Mario as a FA desitination??

[The Senator]

Sigh - really true. This is the first time I can remember there being a surplus of 3-4 players in the draft.

 

I've been arguing the last couple years we should have stuck with 4-3 because it's harder to get the 3-4 players, but that sure isn't fitting the facts this year.

Yet another reason why Crick's stock will continue to fall.

[D521646]

Brother Bill, I had no idea you were a huge Bama fan...I can't stand that team, especially Saban, but I would have no problem turning another one of their front 7 players on D into a Buffalo Bill I've been pretty sold on Upshaw for a while...I'd love to see him in B-lo. As long as we don't draft any skill players or DBs with our first pick, I'll be happy. I want a big, bad snarly sumbiatch for the defense.

 

 

And Hightower is the badest sumbitch of them all, IMO. Upshaw, Hightower, Mercillus, Coples (Bit risky but with large upside potential), and Curry. At number 10, boy what a decision, one two, or three of these guys are going to be fantastic in this league under the right coaching. Can it be Buffalo? Who knows?

 

 

Tim-

[Bill from NYC]

Bill, I was getting on the Upshaw train but he doesn't seem like the explosive pass rusher you take at #10. Still, he was a productive player in the SEC so what are your feelings about him as a pro?

 

Still, it's pretty hard to discount anyone from Bama. They run a pro style defense and Saban is a db but he is a great defensive coach. Personally, I think their safety (forget his name right now) will be the best pro from this group.

 

section 122 is right. Mark Barron is a monster.

The team is chock full of fantastic players. William Vlachos is a little small, but he is worth a look at Center in the mid to late rounds. He was an important factor in opening holes for Ingram and Richardson, and he blocked for qbs with a similar style to Fitz.

 

We are very, very thin at the LB spot, and I would love to see Hightower or Upshaw. But ultimately, I would also be fine with a LT at #10

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Thanks BB - my dream draft is just that - plus it is pre Free Agency acquisitions and losses, which obviously could change our needs somewhat. However, I stand by my opinion of Crick - I see slow, damaged goods and lots of weaknesses. I see him going in round 7 or being signed as an undrafted FA.

 

As for my proclivity toward stacking the o-line, B², my reasoning should be obvious...

 

It would be natural to assume that Mike Leach's spread offense would lead the coach to make quarterbacks and receivers his top priority in recruiting. His first recruiting class at Washington State...with the addition of 28 players, suggests otherwise. Leach and the Cougars received letters of intent from seven offensive linemen, a total that makes up a quarter of their total signees. That wasn't by accident.

 

"This is a little-known fact -- and part of it is because our quarterbacks have gotten tremendous stats over the years, we've got two marquee receivers in the NFL with Wes Welker and Michael Crabtree -- but the single position we have the most guys in the NFL is offensive line. It's probably the position I cherish the most because I coached offensive line for 10 years...Offensive line and defensive line is why they have football to begin with, so you can see huge people collide with others of various shapes and sizes." - Mike Leach

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

 

19 and 0 baby!!!!!

.

Like the O-line theory but I really like the guys we have but LT, beside Nix likes to raid the practice squad for his probowlers

 

Yet another reason why Crick's stock will continue to fall.

he can play 43 DE too, putting him in the new buzz word category "scheme diverse"