7th round pick Prather wr wv

[BobbyC81]

Hey, Stefon Diggs was a 5th rounder from Maryland.   Just sayin’

[Andrew Son]

1 hour ago, BobbyC81 said:

Hey, Stefon Diggs was a 5th rounder from Maryland.   Just sayin’

You calling Prather a diva?!?!

2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

The main thing preventing this team from upgrading the WR room is Keon Coleman…

 

And why? Because he was our first pick last year (unfortunately).

 

We already gave Palmer starter money, and there is just no way the FO would bring in another starter, therefore diminishing Coleman’s ability to become a starter…

 

If Coleman was a mid round pick, as he should have been, it would be a different story…The team would have no problem bringing in a guy to be the starter…

 

But this is the reason you hear the team voice their disappointment in Coleman- yet do nothing about it…Its because he was their first pick…

We really have one spot to fill from last year, Hollins.  I think Shavers can step into that role 

[Bockeye]

5 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

The main thing preventing this team from upgrading the WR room is Keon Coleman…

 

And why? Because he was our first pick last year (unfortunately).

 

We already gave Palmer starter money, and there is just no way the FO would bring in another starter, therefore diminishing Coleman’s ability to become a starter…

 

If Coleman was a mid round pick, as he should have been, it would be a different story…The team would have no problem bringing in a guy to be the starter…

 

But this is the reason you hear the team voice their disappointment in Coleman- yet do nothing about it…Its because he was their first pick…

I’m surprised how many people write off rookies after one year.  I mean - Josh Allen wasn’t exactly lighting it up year one.  Hell - go take a look at Eric Moulds first two years, he would have been absolutely trashed by TBD.  

 

I still have hope Keon can take a step forward this year, as well as Kincaid. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

You calling Prather a diva?!?!

We really have one spot to fill from last year, Hollins.  I think Shavers can step into that role 

 

Also if there isn't.. anyone you really love at the spot to end the season (or say shavers gets hurt, and prather is absolute trash), there are a ton of cuts.  End of the day you're replacing hollins ST contributions at WR5 - and some level of snap mix across Hollins, MVS, and Cooper.  A lot of those snaps likely go to palmer, samuel, coleman, and shakir.  Kincaid also only played 43% of snaps last year and was outsnapped by 3 different WRs.  

 

A couple of examples of potential cuts: 

Assuming NE carries 6 WRs - One or two of - Boutte, Bourne, Polk, Baker are likely to be cut. 

Houston - Berrios and Watson - one is likely available for a special teams player.  

 

I guess this just goes to set the point of...

Is a WR selected in the 4th round more valuable THIS SEASON, than a veteran in similar number of offensive snaps? 

What is gained in those offensive snaps that's potentially lost in special teams contributions? 

Is a WR selected in the 4th round of 2025 more or less valuable than a 2025 vet, and a 2026 WR draft pick?    

Edited April 28 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[buffaloboyinATL]

3 hours ago, Bockeye said:

 Hell - go take a look at Eric Moulds first two years, he would have been absolutely trashed by TBD.  

 

 

Back then it was very rare for a WR to produce prior to year 3, luckily that is not the case any longer.

 

That being said, I agree that Coleman (and Kincaid) still have plenty of upside left, and I believe they will both take significant steps forward this season.  

[JaCrispy]

4 hours ago, Bockeye said:

I’m surprised how many people write off rookies after one year.  I mean - Josh Allen wasn’t exactly lighting it up year one.  Hell - go take a look at Eric Moulds first two years, he would have been absolutely trashed by TBD.  

 

I still have hope Keon can take a step forward this year, as well as Kincaid. 

I don’t think it’s that people are writing rookies off, but rather those rookies have not proven anything, and yet we are putting all our chips in that basket instead of bringing in competition for them.

 

And like you said, there is hope….But I would think that if there is a player you aren’t sure of (and only have hope) that they would bring in competition, to either push him, or see who rises to the top…I think this was a mistake on Beane’s part- putting all your chips into the Coleman bucket…Because now, all we can do is HOPE that he is ready for a championship run….👍

Edited April 28 by JaCrispy

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Back then it was very rare for a WR to produce prior to year 3, luckily that is not the case any longer.

 

That being said, I agree that Coleman (and Kincaid) still have plenty of upside left, and I believe they will both take significant steps forward this season.  

Joey Galloway had a thousand yards as a rookie in 1995... Marvin Harrison had 800 yards as a rookie in 1996... In 1998 Randy Moss had a 1300 yd as a rookie 

 

Eric moulds did take a long time to turn up.. started very slow

Edited April 28 by Buffalo716

[schoolhouserock]

This guy gave a great phone interview with the media after his selection.

[BigAl2526]

The first look at this guy in rookie mini-camp gives the impression of a guy who wants to make this roster in September.  He was running great routes and catching everything in sight.  The guy is not a sub 4.4 burner, but he's got real good speed to go with enough size to make him look like a slender Keon Coleman.   You have to give Brandon Beane credit.  He misses on some early round picks like every GM does, but he hits on a surprising number of late round fliers.  If Keon doesn't get his act together, maybe he should start looking over his shoulder.  That is not to mention the fact that Jackson Hawes and Dorian Strong look strong as well.

[Turbo44]

37 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

The first look at this guy in rookie mini-camp gives the impression of a guy who wants to make this roster in September.  He was running great routes and catching everything in sight.  The guy is not a sub 4.4 burner, but he's got real good speed to go with enough size to make him look like a slender Keon Coleman.   You have to give Brandon Beane credit.  He misses on some early round picks like every GM does, but he hits on a surprising number of late round fliers.  If Keon doesn't get his act together, maybe he should start looking over his shoulder.  That is not to mention the fact that Jackson Hawes and Dorian Strong look strong as well.

Not a 4.4 burner but at 6’5” and 4.46 he’s plenty fast enough 

 

sometimes these guys don’t get an ample chance in college. Knox had 0 tds at Mississippi state cuz of the receivers there; cooke’s stats were pedestrian cuz he played at UGA part time, plenty of other examples

[starrymessenger]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

The first look at this guy in rookie mini-camp gives the impression of a guy who wants to make this roster in September.  He was running great routes and catching everything in sight.  The guy is not a sub 4.4 burner, but he's got real good speed to go with enough size to make him look like a slender Keon Coleman.   You have to give Brandon Beane credit.  He misses on some early round picks like every GM does, but he hits on a surprising number of late round fliers.  If Keon doesn't get his act together, maybe he should start looking over his shoulder.  That is not to mention the fact that Jackson Hawes and Dorian Strong look strong as well.

A number of people thought highly of this kid. Glad we get a chance to better see what he's got. Word is Beane had his eye on him and did not want hm to fall into the UDFA pool

[Alphadawg7]

On 4/28/2025 at 3:42 AM, JaCrispy said:

The main thing preventing this team from upgrading the WR room is Keon Coleman…

 

And why? Because he was our first pick last year (unfortunately).

 

We already gave Palmer starter money, and there is just no way the FO would bring in another starter, therefore diminishing Coleman’s ability to become a starter…

 

If Coleman was a mid round pick, as he should have been, it would be a different story…The team would have no problem bringing in a guy to be the starter…

 

But this is the reason you hear the team voice their disappointment in Coleman- yet do nothing about it…Its because he was their first pick…

Keon was on pace for 800-900 yards as a rookie and 7+ TDs through week 11 when he got hurt.  
 

And further context:  

-He was a rookie

-He was splitting time during that span

-He played in a spread the ball around offense 

-Bills took the foot off the gas for whole quarters and some halves in blowout wins in those first 11 games.  
 

So while he didn’t find his groove again after the injury, he showed a lot of promise before and that is why they are still confident in him going into this year.   And McD and Beane have proven multiple times to not just stick with a guy because of his draft status.  Look at Elam, he was inactive or didn’t see the field most games here.  
 

Keon showed enough in those 11 games to still have their belief in him.  He still has to come out and prove their confidence correct and show he will take that step forward, but his starting this year is not just because of his draft status.  
 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Alphadawg7

[yall]

17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Keon was on pace for 800-900 yards as a rookie and 7+ TDs through week 11 when he got hurt.  
 

And further context:  

-He was a rookie

-He was splitting time during that span

-He played in a spread the ball around offense 

-Bills took the foot off the gas for whole quarters and some halves in blowout wins in those first 11 games.  
 

So while he didn’t find his groove again after the injury, he showed a lot of promise before and that is why they are still confident in him going into this year.   And McD and Beane have proven multiple times to not just stick with a guy because of his draft status.  Look at Elam, he was inactive or didn’t see the field most games here.  
 

Keon showed enough in those 11 games to still have their belief in him.  He still has to come out and prove their confidence right that he will take a step forwarding , but his starting this year is not just because of his draft status.  
 

 

 

If Coleman and Kincaid make even marginal improvements in their overall game and contributions, our offense will be a force to be reckoned with once again.