So we're firing McD, right?

[Billever76]

6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No Brady.  Bring in somone who csn run the WCO. The rest I can live with

The west coast offense is made for pocket passer methodical robot qbs.....allen isn't a wco offense qb..might as well trade him if that's the box we force him into...it's not fair to allen to be handcuffed to an offensive system that basically neuters what makes allen truly elite

[LarryMadman]

4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No Brady.  Bring in somone who csn run the WCO. The rest I can live with

Brady has shown to be moldable as i'm totally convinced he called games the exact way McDummie wanted him to, unlike Dorsey and Daboll who McD obviously had tension with and he has been hamstrung by still using Dorseys playbook. Let him install his own offense, let him go and I believe Allen would be even more unstoppable. 

 

This moldability and seemingly easy to work with mentality would seem to be attractive to a new coach, plus Brady is a HC candidate, wouldn't want to lose him and the phenominal job he did at LSU. I excuse his Carolina days as that whole regime was a cluster from the get go. 

[Billever76]

Just now, Avisan said:

Honestly this is just idiocy

 

Dink and dunk against the Cover 2 shell is what sets up the big shots you want to see, and it worked all night

Dink and dunk kills clock and you better make sure your long time consuming drives end in touchdowns...there is such a small room for error in that offense 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Just now, Billever76 said:

The west coast offense is made for pocket passer methodical robot qbs.....allen isn't a wco offense qb..might as well trade him if that's the box we force him into...it's not fair to allen to be handcuffed to an offensive system that basically neuters what makes allen truly elite

Fave, Young, Rogers, Mahomes are all robot pocket passers?  

 

Try again.  Btw...Rogers in the WCO had 10 years of high TD's,MVP awards and a supebowl title while tossing less than 10 ints, every year.

1 minute ago, LarryMadman said:

Brady has shown to be moldable as i'm totally convinced he called games the exact way McDummie wanted him to, unlike Dorsey and Daboll who McD obviously had tension with and he has been hamstrung by still using Dorseys playbook. Let him install his own offense, let him go and I believe Allen would be even more unstoppable. 

 

This moldability and seemingly easy to work with mentality would seem to be attractive to a new coach, plus Brady is a HC candidate, wouldn't want to lose him and the phenominal job he did at LSU. I excuse his Carolina days as that whole regime was a cluster from the get go. 

Brady is a yes man for McDermott,so no.  

[Avisan]

1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

Dink and dunk kills clock and you better make sure your long time consuming drives end in touchdowns...there is such a small room for error in that offense 

There is far less room for error in big play offenses, what amount to variance swings will just wreck you sometimes.

[Billever76]

Just now, Billever76 said:

Dink and dunk kills clock and you better make sure your long time consuming drives end in touchdowns...there is such a small room for error in that offense 

We attempted 3 passes of 20 yards.....most all of our pass schemes were under 10 yards and allot of them were at the los....now that worked in the first half as cook was washing kc...kc made adjustments at half and we didnt!...we continued to run cook into loaded fronts and when we did pass it was close to the los where all the chiefs defense had moved up into.....0 intermediate middle of the field schemes! Don't believe me? Look it up...we ignored the middle of the field in the 15 to 20 yard level ALLLL NIGHT

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I would still take that over Klein moving through quicksand all night. You have to admit Klein was by far our weakest point of defense... Maybe Williams misses some reads in the game but at least he can move side to side. Klein can hit his spot 100% of the time and it won't matter as Kelce easily runs right by him.

 

And yes I mentioned Siran Neal covering Kelce before the game too. This is what troubles me - I am just an amateur fan and I knew what our game plan should have been. McDermott didn't figure it out until the 4th quarter when it was too late. We have seen this before. McDermott loses his nerve in the playoffs and goes soft with his defensive game plan, and it costs us. Fans have tried to blame Leslie Frazier. It was McDermott all along. He isn't learning.

 

I don't dispute that Klein was a weakness. He was. I knew he would be. But I know Williams would have been too, for different reasons. But I don't necessarily look at last night and say the gameplan was the big issue on defense. We had a busted coverage from two all pros (we average about 2 of those per season, sucks that one came last night) and other than that the Chiefs just relentlessly attacked our known weakness. They didn't sit all night in soft zone. They mixed in a fair bit of man, even early on, they tried in the 3rd Quarter sending guys (I wasn't a fan of that plan) before they then got to the Siran option. I'd have preferred to go to Siran before the blitzing model.  

 

The defense was bad last night. Could they have done some different things? Sure, they could. But they did try and adjust and I think the main issue was the talent deficiency at linebacker. 

[Billever76]

1 minute ago, Avisan said:

There is far less room for error in big play offenses, what amount to variance swings will just wreck you sometimes.

Go trade allen then...draft a pure pocket passer and be happy watching mcd ball for the rest of this decade

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Fave, Young, Rogers, Mahomes are all robot pocket passers?  

 

Try again.  Btw...Rogers in the WCO had 10 years of high TD's,MVP awards and a supebowl title while tossing less than 10 ints, every year.

 

There are two distinct branches of the WCO in the NFL now. There is the Reid branch - which is a heavy shotgun spread variant of the WCO and there is the Shanahan branch - which is primarily an under center WCO off the stretch zone. 

 

The first has a lot more freedom for the QB. The second is much more of a straightjacket offense which really relies on the QB painting by numbers. 

 

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

But they did try and adjust and I think the main issue was the talent deficiency at linebacker. 

 

The adjustments they landed on that ultimately worked are things that should have been in the initial game plan. That's my point.

 

I respect that you understand the details and nuances of the game as well as anybody else on here... But putting all the details aside, aren't you just sick of having this same conversation every year? It is uncanny how the defense melts down every single year in a playoff loss. We can argue over the reasons why but at the end of the day this is a results based business... And the results from our defensive head coach are simply not good enough.

 

8.5 yards per play... There is no excusing that. Not in year 4 of the playoffs under the same coaching staff.

[LarryMadman]

5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Fave, Young, Rogers, Mahomes are all robot pocket passers?  

 

Try again.  Btw...Rogers in the WCO had 10 years of high TD's,MVP awards and a supebowl title while tossing less than 10 ints, every year.

Brady is a yes man for McDermott,so no.  

Had to be in order to be given the job, McD demands it. 

 

I'm keeping Brady as I like what i've seen and think he has done a pretty good job using Dorseys bad playbook. If he is ever given the chance to do his thing, i' think we would all like it, unfortunatly if McDummie is still coach, Bradys hands would still be tied even with his own playbook.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The adjustments they landed on that ultimately worked are things that should have been in the initial game plan. That's my point.

 

I respect that you understand the details and nuances of the game as well as anybody else on here... But putting all the details aside, aren't you just sick of having this same conversation every year? It is uncanny how the defense melts down every single year in a playoff loss. We can argue over the reasons why but at the end of the day this is a results based business... And the results from our defensive head coach are simply not good enough.

 

8.5 yards per play... There is no excusing that. Not in year 4 of the playoffs under the same coaching staff.

 

I am sick of losing, losing sucks. And if I honestly believed the way to stop the losing was to fire the coaching staff I would be all over firing them. I was all over firing Chan. I was all over firing Rex.... indeed I was the first one driving that bandwagon. I don't think firing this staff is the answer to stopping the losing.

[LarryMadman]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am sick of losing, losing sucks. And if I honestly believed the way to stop the losing was to fire the coaching staff I would be all over firing them. I was all over firing Chan. I was all over firing Rex.... indeed I was the first one driving that bandwagon. I don't think firing this staff is the answer to stopping the losing.

You're not sick of losing, if you were you would not be just satisfied with making the playoffs. You would demand better, you don't and are content with the known and scared of the unknown, kind of how McDummie coaches. 

 

Don't understand how people can't see all of McDummies blunders and think things will change if just given the opportunity, OMG insanity anybody!

Edited January 22 by LarryMadman

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am sick of losing, losing sucks. And if I honestly believed the way to stop the losing was to fire the coaching staff I would be all over firing them. I was all over firing Chan. I was all over firing Rex.... indeed I was the first one driving that bandwagon. I don't think firing this staff is the answer to stopping the losing.

There is no 'this staff' anymore 

 

Everyone except McDermott and beane has been fired or replaced

[T master]

10 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

Yeah it's more than just this game or this year.

 

If it was isolated we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

 

So if this is the way it is then Siriani, Peterson, Tomlin (especially) oh and McDaniel all should be fired too with this line of thinking, hell Tomlin should have been fired years ago .

 

Not to mention the likes of Marv, Shula, Marty, and the rest of those POS coaches that came up short more than a few times in their careers and never even made it to the play offs for long periods of their career but all of them are in the HOF . And only 1 of them ever won a SB .

 

So you must have been one of the people when Marv was here that was calling for him to be fired right ? Just asking .

[Aussie Joe]

 

[Logic]

I advocated for it mid-season.

After the way the season ended, there is zero chance it happens. Zero.

So if the question is "do you wish the Bills would fire McDermott?", then okay, fine.

But if the question is "ARE the Bills firing McDermott?", the obvious and unequivocal answer is "No. Not happening".

[LABILLBACKER]

14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am sick of losing, losing sucks. And if I honestly believed the way to stop the losing was to fire the coaching staff I would be all over firing them. I was all over firing Chan. I was all over firing Rex.... indeed I was the first one driving that bandwagon. I don't think firing this staff is the answer to stopping the losing.

Gunner you are literally going to be the last guy on the USS McDermott. 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 minutes ago, Logic said:

I advocated for it mid-season.

After the way the season ended, there is zero chance it happens. Zero.

So if the question is "do you wish the Bills would fire McDermott?", then okay, fine.

But if the question is "ARE the Bills firing McDermott?", the obvious and unequivocal answer is "No. Not happening".

So the Bills can rise up and save Sean's job after the Dunne piece, but besides Josh they can't rise up against their hated rival in the playoffs. If Pegula is so blind to not see the obvious, then we as fans better be prepared for more seasons like this. McD is not taking this team to a SB, let alone winning one. And if that's OK for all you "participation trophy" fans then knock yourselves out.

[Billever76]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am sick of losing, losing sucks. And if I honestly believed the way to stop the losing was to fire the coaching staff I would be all over firing them. I was all over firing Chan. I was all over firing Rex.... indeed I was the first one driving that bandwagon. I don't think firing this staff is the answer to stopping the losing.

All the other coaches in the drought years would have us right here with Josh allen...actually I think a few might have had us in the superbowl if they had this roster with this quarterback 

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

So the Bills can rise up and save Sean's job after the Dunne piece, but besides Josh they can't rise up against their hated rival in the playoffs. If Pegula is so blind to not see the obvious, then we as fans better be prepared for more seasons like this. McD is not taking this team to a SB, let alone winning one. And if that's OK for all you "participation trophy" fans then knock yourselves out.

Yep… prepare yourself for McD being here next year 

[bmur66]

I say fire him. He couldn't kick a field goal. He couldn't catch perfect Josh Allen passes. He couldn't get a hand on Mahomes. He couldn't cover Kelsey. He couldn't stay healthy. He couldn't even get the refs to reverse an obvious bad call when it was reviewed. Get rid of the bum!

[phypon]

Listening to WGR right now.  Chris Brown is ball washing McD and Mahomes.  Saying Mahomes is the Michael Jordan of the AFC.  What's he going to think when they get smoked by the Ravens next week??  The earlier hosts were at least critical, this is ridiculous now.  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, bmur66 said:

I say fire him. He couldn't kick a field goal. He couldn't catch perfect Josh Allen passes. He couldn't get a hand on Mahomes. He couldn't cover Kelsey. He couldn't stay healthy. He couldn't even get the refs to reverse an obvious bad call when it was reviewed. Get rid of the bum!

His defense only put them in 3rd down 5 times. It is another epic failure. There are so many people that could win a playoff game with Josh Allen. We need to find the guy that can win KC playoff games with Josh Allen. 

[Logic]

9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

So the Bills can rise up and save Sean's job after the Dunne piece, but besides Josh they can't rise up against their hated rival in the playoffs. If Pegula is so blind to not see the obvious, then we as fans better be prepared for more seasons like this. McD is not taking this team to a SB, let alone winning one. And if that's OK for all you "participation trophy" fans then knock yourselves out.

I'll just repeat what I said above.

If the question is "Do you want the Bills to fire McDermott?", then okay. Vent. Get it all out.

If the question is "ARE the Bills going to fire McDermott?", the answer is "No". It just is.

Do you think differently? Do you foresee the Bills firing Sean McDermott this offseason?

[Donuts and Doritos]

1 hour ago, LarryMadman said:

No he didn't the QB played out of his mind and wouldnt let the team lose.

 

McDummie cant coach out of his mind as he is incapable of that.

 

He took a D missing tons of key players and back ups & went on a 5 game winning streak. Absolutely Josh deserves credit. But there were times in those games the O fell asleep, Josh had turnovers, & the D held it together. They had no business doing as well on D as they did w/ those injuries, they even won the turnover battle in those games. He also made the right call replacing Dorsey w/ Brady. Yesterday the injuries on D, which got way worse in the Pittsburgh game came home to roost. McD isn't perfect but if you don't see how good he coached that D, it's bc you don't want to. It wasn't McD missing kicks, dropping passes, missing blocks or throws or tackles, that's the players. Yesterday's loss was the Jimmys & Joes not the Xs & Os.

[Blazman11]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Very nice post. I agree with the vast majority of your statements. You are especially spot on when it comes to McD. Zero growth when it comes playoff time. No confidence he can lead the Bills to a SB. 

 

For me it wasn't SB or bust. Maybe it should have been. Probably should be when your in year 6 or 7 of Allen. Talk about missed opportunities. Understatement of the year. Personally, I would have been ok with them going to Baltimore and losing a tough game. Going to the AFC championship game vs what been the best team in the AFC would have been not the worst loss to swallow. Ultimately it's not the goal but I likely would have seen it as progress. Maybe I'm lying to myself. A SB appearance would have been fantastic and a clear successful season. 

 

I agree with giving Allen a chance to win the game. However, I'm in disagreement with going for it on 4th and 8. It's kind of pick your poison. I think the chances of converting the 4th down was very slim. Interesting if there's a math equation or analytics that could give a clear picture. Taking into account the probability of making a 4th and 8th while taking into consideration make the FG while computing the chances of Mahomes leading the Chiefs to a game winning FG or TD. Pretty fascinating information here. 

 

I digress, while watching it live I asked myself are the Bills in 4 down territory? Truthfully, I didn't know the answer until I saw the play calling. I think the Bills could have been more prudent and tried to make a more manageable 4th and 2 or 3. It's all arm chair QBing  here. I think your thoughts process absolutely applies here in a shorter more manageable 4th down. 

 

I was fine with trying to convert the FG. In my mind, I felt like the game was already lost make or missed. There's no way any Bills' fan was confident that the D could stop Mahomes and company. However, lots of things can happen. A fumble, tipped ball for an int, strip sack, etc...in essence, praying for a miracle similar to the one the Bills received minutes before. 

 

I don't know how this team moves forward with McD as the coach. His message has to be getting stale. The players belief in him has to be diminishing. Heck, the coach himself is probably lacking confidence. When is enough enough? 

 

Running it back with a poor playoff coach who has shown an uncanny ability to lose divisional games with the top 3 QB in the league hardly inspires hope and optimism. 

 

Fans should be knocking on the Pegula's door begging for a coaching change. 

 

Yeah makes sense.  When I say the 4th down FG was the last straw for me I mean that just happened to be the last decision.  There were a ton more leading up to that point.  Fake punt, obsession with a middling run game, not running a play to gain a few yards on 3rd down for a more manageable 4th, etc.  I’d like to see that 3rd down play on an all 22 as, going off memory watching it live, I saw no receiver on the screen the broadcast allows us to see.  I know Allen was flushed out fairly early as well.  It just felt like a bad play call for the circumstances but I’m not certain.  

 

For me, since all of these things lead up the 4th down play I’m like why are you kicking?  You have the ball and are in control.   This situation is why we drafted Allen.  If you want to win, you pick this up and continue dictating the terms of the rest of the game.  I agree with you that I’d love to see probability metrics there as well.  They had 27 first downs and last night I couldn’t find anything on the length of each first down.  4th down feels like it’s a super tall task because of the finality of it all.  But if you take a step back and look at the overall picture it’s meh it’s 8 yards and we have Josh Allen I like my odds.  It feels to me like McDermott bailed himself out of taking responsibility there.  It’s now not McDermott’s fault they lost.  It’s Bass’ fault for missing the kick.  

 

I’m not here jumping up and down saying kicking it on 4th there is the worst idea ever and I know you are not saying the opposite.  It’s just for me personally I look at the entirety of the situation.  Defense stopped nothing.  We have Allen.  We have the ball and should be dictating the game at that point.  Instead of passively allowing Mahomes to dictate for the remaining 1:40.  Maybe McDermott thought he put Mahomes in the similar situation in the regular season game this year and won?  But they got real lucky that game and were certainly not playing anywhere near the defensive level yesterday vs that regular season game.  

 

Anyways, my thoughts are all not absolutes.  There’s levels of gray in between all of this.  Bottom line we all have the same desires for this team all we see every year is failure.  And all those failures look pretty similar.  

[beer can shower]

12 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'll just repeat what I said above.

If the question is "Do you want the Bills to fire McDermott?", then okay. Vent. Get it all out.

If the question is "ARE the Bills going to fire McDermott?", the answer is "No". It just is.

Do you think differently? Do you foresee the Bills firing Sean McDermott this offseason?

Most definitely fire BOTH McDermott and Beane.
Will Pegula, I  highly doubt it.

After 7 years He is still hanging on to their "TRUST THE PROCESS" BS.

They are probably telling him"Have faith Terry there are still some Carolina connections we can bring in""and older players that need another chance". "Especially running backs".

 

As long as Bills Management can keep this fan base BILLieving and, spending, Pegula is content.

Why He even got people from the community to shovel out snow out of the stadium.

Imagine a Billionaire, paying $20. an hour to to do heavy shoveling.

Let this sink in, his annual running costs for his yacht are around $7 million.

$20.  How many seats?

 

Pegula should do right by the Fans that have so loyally supported his team.

 

 

 

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Excluding kneeldowns we gave up 8.5 yards per play... 3 yards per play more than what the Chiefs offense averaged all season... That is quite possibly the worst playoff defensive performance of McDermott's career. It is getting worse, not better. The only reason the Chiefs didn't put up 40+ is that we controlled the ball and TOP on offense, and we got saved once by the dumbest rule in sports. And this is likely to be the weakest Chiefs offense we ever see in the Mahomes/Reid era. So what is the reason to be optimistic that McDermott will suddenly figure it out against this team when it counts?

I think there are posters who are afraid if McD is fired, we'll return back to the drought years.

 

So they are afraid.

 

But I would say any coach can win with Josh, yes any coach.

 

Bills would be far better off with an offensive minded coach.

 

At some point Bills have to realize its not working.  Yes they can win the division.  But to go to an AFC Championship and to win the superbowl something has to change.

 

When will this fanbase get tired of the status quo ?  At some point you have to take a chance and leap forward in a new spirit of daring.

 

Every year that goes by is another wasted year of Josh's talent.

[JimmyNoodles]

8 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I think there are posters who are afraid if McD is fired, we'll return back to the drought years.

 

So they are afraid.

 

But I would say any coach can win with Josh, yes any coach.

 

Bills would be far better off with an offensive minded coach.

 

At some point Bills have to realize its not working.  Yes they can win the division.  But to go to an AFC Championship and to win the superbowl something has to change.

 

When will this fanbase get tired of the status quo ?  At some point you have to take a chance and leap forward in a new spirit of daring.

 

Every year that goes by is another wasted year of Josh's talent.

That's pretty much the point of having an elite QB.  As long as Josh stays healthy, the Bills can compete.  How many coaches would love to coach Josh?  I'd say, pretty much everyone.  Time for a change.     

[TheFunPolice]

Dick Jauron would 100% have been in the playoffs multiple times with Allen.

 

He'd be our "crazy professor" coach. Probably similar results in the post season though.

 

The point is: having Josh Allen and NOT making the playoffs would be totally unacceptable. Thus, the FLOOR is getting to the playoffs. The minimum. 

 

Does anyone really think an innovative, proven OC would do worse with Josh Allen as his QB?

 

 

Edited January 22 by TheFunPolice

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

There is no 'this staff' anymore 

 

Everyone except McDermott and beane has been fired or replaced

 

Fair. I mean regime not staff.

Edited January 22 by GunnerBill

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

But Mahomes is Michael Jordan.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Gunner you are literally going to be the last guy on the USS McDermott. 

 

Possibly. But I won't just follow the crowd I always asses what I see. I'd have fired him if he missed the playoffs this year. That would have been a major underachivement. Losing by 3 points to Patrick Mahomes in a game where the Bills were depleted and where I don't think coaching was the in the top 3 reasons for the loss isn't. 

 

I get those who go for the "at some point you just have to blow it up even if you can't pin it all on coaching" argument. But I am not there yet. I don't think he is beyond criticism. But I think generally among all sports fan bases the tendency is to over blame coaching and under blame player performance and execution. 

[Toyo321]

God I wish this was the case but we cant get rid of this guy, unfortunately we are stuck with this guy like a bad case of Herpes....

[MrEpsYtown]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Possibly. But I won't just follow the crowd I always asses what I see. I'd have fired him if he missed the playoffs this year. That would have been a major underachivement. Losing by 3 points to Patrick Mahomes in a game where the Bills were depleted and where I don't think coaching was the in the top 3 reasons for the loss isn't. 

 

I get those who go for the "at some point you just have to blow it up even if you can't pin it all on coaching" argument. But I am not there yet. I don't think he is beyond criticism. But I think generally among all sports fan bases the tendency is to over blame coaching and under blame player performance and execution. 

 

I see your point and I see where you are coming from. I guess my question is do you think this regime will ever win a Super Bowl here? If the answer is no, I think you have to make the move now when guys like Harbaugh, Belichick, and Vrabel, even Pete Carroll are on the market. If they look to make a move next year, those guys probably aren't available. In my opinion, they will not win the whole thing with this regime.  

 

On the next point, from the perspective of a coach, player execution falls into the coach's job. To some level, so does player performance. Now no one could have done anything to make Diggs catch that ball...that's on him and that is where player performance comes in. But the lack of execution is on the coaching staff and that starts with McDermott. If they run it back, next year will not have a different result. 

 

 

[Nklaiste1]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

 

I agree 100% with Ariel Helwani's tweet!

Edited January 22 by Nklaiste1

[Billever76]

1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

He took a D missing tons of key players and back ups & went on a 5 game winning streak. Absolutely Josh deserves credit. But there were times in those games the O fell asleep, Josh had turnovers, & the D held it together. They had no business doing as well on D as they did w/ those injuries, they even won the turnover battle in those games. He also made the right call replacing Dorsey w/ Brady. Yesterday the injuries on D, which got way worse in the Pittsburgh game came home to roost. McD isn't perfect but if you don't see how good he coached that D, it's bc you don't want to. It wasn't McD missing kicks, dropping passes, missing blocks or throws or tackles, that's the players. Yesterday's loss was the Jimmys & Joes not the Xs & Os.

Every post season defeat excuses and giving McDermott a pass....clock is ticking on Allen's career...guess we will be content wasting it as long as we get 10 divison titles 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Possibly. But I won't just follow the crowd I always asses what I see. I'd have fired him if he missed the playoffs this year. That would have been a major underachivement. Losing by 3 points to Patrick Mahomes in a game where the Bills were depleted and where I don't think coaching was the in the top 3 reasons for the loss isn't. 

 

I get those who go for the "at some point you just have to blow it up even if you can't pin it all on coaching" argument. But I am not there yet. I don't think he is beyond criticism. But I think generally among all sports fan bases the tendency is to over blame coaching and under blame player performance and execution. 

If the EXACT situation happened next year, I’d assume that you’d run it back? If the Bills had injuries, a slow start and then lost in the divisional round to KC, it would be okay? If the answer is no, then why are we running it back again? When is “enough, enough?” If the answer is yes, then we are accepting that divisional round losses as okay. 

Edited January 22 by Kirby Jackson

[par73]

Pegula will not, but I feel this team will not take the next step with McDermott in charge.