Italian Bills Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. Edited December 9, 2023 by Italian Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Losing in historical fashion is not something I want to read about right now, Giusseppe!! 3 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Losing in historical fashion is not something I want to read about right now, Giusseppe!! Feel free not to think about it 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 The metrics point to this being a very good team It's been an unlikely combination of issues that have produced our W/L 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Have no fear Padre, we are 11th out of 16th with more likely more losses than wins to come. Good times at OBD! Can't wait until year 22 of the Mcbeane era so we can be mediocre or worse and waist Josh Allen's career. 2 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: The metrics point to this being a very good team It's been an unlikely combination of issues that have produced our W/L Exactly, I don’t think it has never happened before at this level. This is the reason why I entitled the thread Crazy. Edited December 9, 2023 by Italian Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Have no fear Padre, we are 11th out of 16th with more likely more losses than wins to come. Good times at OBD! Can't wait until year 22 of the Mcbeane era so we can be mediocre or worse and waist Josh Allen's career. Is Josh wasting his own career if he chooses to stay with the Bills? Also, how are you measuring the career? Solely based on championships? I'm mean, many people still consider Marino one of the best ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 No offense intended at all but reading the word "Crazy!" in a thick Italian accent just makes my day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Is Josh wasting his own career if he chooses to stay with the Bills? Also, how are you measuring the career? Solely based on championships? I'm mean, many people still consider Marino one of the best ever. Many are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: No offense intended This is problem #1 for the Bills! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: No offense intended at all but reading the word "Crazy!" in a thick Italian accent just makes my day! Maybe my English has a perfect american English accent, southern or texans, or East coast… how you know ? 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Italian Bills said: Maybe my English has a perfect american English accent, southern or texans, or East coast… how you know ? 😅 Please don't spoil it for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I always figured OP was the groundskeeper from this: Listen to the accent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. Keep in mind though that +84 of that PD came from our first four games. Over the last 8 we're only +17. We're -9 over the past 8 apart from that Jets game. Let's see what tomorrow brings. If ever there's a time for McD to demonstrate his ability to bring the team together, tomorrow is it. If not, then that should clearly make its own statement. 21 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I always figured OP was the groundskeeper from this: Listen to the accent. LOL I'm gettin' better! See, the pieces are getting smaller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Italian Bills said: We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. 2010 Chargers had the top ranked offense and defense and missed the playoffs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Is Josh wasting his own career if he chooses to stay with the Bills? Also, how are you measuring the career? Solely based on championships? I'm mean, many people still consider Marino one of the best ever. Well, exactly, what are Josh's goals. He's set financially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Italian Bills said: We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. 2010 Chargers had the #1 offense and defense (in yards gained/allowed) in the league… only to miss the playoffs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Because point differential is a lazy stat that lacks context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Considering we haven't lost by more than 6 points and have a few 25+ point wins , not surprising 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 We have been underperforming against DVOA for awhile now. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Italian Bills said: We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. Its like 3 games that we destroyed other teams propping that stat up. We lost almost all the close games. That is why the point diff is so high and our record is .500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Have no fear Padre, we are 11th out of 16th with more likely more losses than wins to come. Good times at OBD! Can't wait until year 22 of the Mcbeane era so we can be mediocre or worse and waist Josh Allen's career. do NOT bring Josh's waist in to this. He is really trying to stay in shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Overperforming your metrics usually means you play smart football, stay focused and have good coaching. Underperforming your metrics means the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Crazy, but not quite Bob Woods crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Italian Bills said: We are third in the Conference (5th in the entire League) in POINTS DIFF at 101 and yet we are 11th on conference standing… i guess it’s something nfl history material. No more of this from you ... Edited December 9, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Have no fear Padre, we are 11th out of 16th with more likely more losses than wins to come. Good times at OBD! Can't wait until year 22 of the Mcbeane era so we can be mediocre or worse and waist Josh Allen's career. Yes, it would be a shame to waist the prime years of Allen’s career. Thank goodness all his other measurables are off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 21 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Exactly, I don’t think it has never happened before at this level. This is the reason why I entitled the thread Crazy. So, if this is a historical season in which a fundamentally excellent team still has a terrible record... Do you think coaching might have something to do with it? There's a reason you haven't seen this sort of thing before at this level. This is not easy to accomplish! It takes a particular lack of talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Its like 3 games that we destroyed other teams propping that stat up. We lost almost all the close games. That is why the point diff is so high and our record is .500 It's actually a GREAT example of why statistics/analytics are an important piece of the pie and should be relied on..but not exclusively! They should be considered one of several pieces of evidence to be weighed and balanced as a whole. Any analytic you can think of is actually an extremely simplified attempt to explain an insanely complex system. Flaws are inherent. 19 hours ago, H2o said: Crazy, but not quite Bob Woods crazy Well played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Lucks gonna swing our way with that 8-0 next couple months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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