Mango Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Goodness! When did Mara say that? I noted a week ago, Daboll threw the game ball to Wink Martindale to show they're "all good now". They showed the clip last night. Damn, I was disappointed that GB didn't pull it off but when you turn the ball over 3 times (2 deep in your opponents territory or in their red zone), the odds are gonna be against you. Or maybe they wouldn't. What's your explanation for the Giants going from 9-7-1 to a 2-8 start (had Jones through week 6)? In that stretch when I watched them, they just didn't look like a well-coached well-prepared team on either offense or defense and there's Daboll screaming at Wink Martindale on the sideline. Maybe winning COTY as a 1st year HC and being the darling of NY media kind of went to 'ol Daboll's head a 'lil bit? He said it this past March, 2023 on Sirius NFL Radio. Mara was fairly tongue in cheek about it. Daboll had been to a few Rangers games and made the Jumbotron. But I don't think an owner puts that out there lightly either. Also, some Buffalo guy? Dude gets a job with Giants and suddenly starts rocking Rangers gear all the time? Hard pass. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36004403/john-mara-jokingly-warns-brian-daboll-go-bono-bozo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If the Giants can win another game or two this season they will have overachieved again. Not to the extent of last season, for sure, but that roster is a 5 or 6 win roster. It was last year when they won 9 and a playoff game. It is this year too. They deserve a ton of discredit for paying Jones though when both of their backups look just as good as him. but they haven’t given up and that’s positive. But it’s pretty sad their lack of talent and I think offensive coaches get a big say in that. We’ll see how next year goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Or maybe they wouldn't. What's your explanation for the Giants going from 9-7-1 to a 2-8 start (had Jones through week 6)? In that stretch when I watched them, they just didn't look like a well-coached well-prepared team on either offense or defense and there's Daboll screaming at Wink Martindale on the sideline. Maybe winning COTY as a 1st year HC and being the darling of NY media kind of went to 'ol Daboll's head a 'lil bit? Nah, I think they would, Daboll has 5 wins with Jones, Tyrod and Tommy combining for 14 total TDs, how many does Josh have, 35. Give Daboll 21 more TDs and the Giants would have more wins, let alone the Bills if he was coach, no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They deserve a ton of discredit for paying Jones though when both of their backups look just as good as him. If you're going to have a 'Danny Dimes', you better have given him a bunch of them. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Most teams with really good QBs can say that...only one team wins the SB every year. Most teams can’t say that after 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 12:34 PM, LarryMadman said: Maybe so, however in my opinion if Daboll was the current coach of the Bills they would have more than 6 wins and if McDermott was the current coach of the Giants they would have less than 4 wins. I don't know about that. McD has shown he can take a roster of dregs and compete for a Wild Card just as easily as he can take a stacked roster and compete for a Wild Card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They deserve a ton of discredit for paying Jones though when both of their backups look just as good as him. but they haven’t given up and that’s positive. But it’s pretty sad their lack of talent and I think offensive coaches get a big say in that. We’ll see how next year goes. Yea I don't think their roster build has been good. Thibadeaux has underperformed and Neal has been dreadful. That was two top 10 picks last year. Missing on one is bad. Having two and missing both is criminal. That is Cleveland Browns bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I don't think their roster build has been good. Thibadeaux has underperformed and Neal has been dreadful. That was two top 10 picks last year. Missing on one is bad. Having two and missing both is criminal. That is Cleveland Browns bad. Yeah, Schein has done a poor job. Daboll is a good coach but needs to work on his people skills. I think the biggest reason Belichick guys fail is they try to be like that grumpy old man without his resume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Wink Martindale is a long term veteran defensive coordinator. I suspect he is the kind of person who wants to do things his own way. Daboll is also a pretty strong minded guy. As the head coach he probably figures that when he wants to have some input on how the defense is doing things his defensive coordinator should listen to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 LOL: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, chongli said: LOL: Now I want to see his hair Edited January 6 by EmotionallyUnstable 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 12/9/2023 at 12:24 PM, LeGOATski said: There's tension everywhere, honestly. On every team. The only thing I want to know: is it sexual? ask the person who cleans out the Jaguars hot tub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 Update: Wink Martindale reportedly cursed out Daboll before quitting. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-wink-martindale-cursed-out-brian-daboll-after-learning-of-defensive-staff-firings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Update: Wink Martindale reportedly cursed out Daboll before quitting. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-wink-martindale-cursed-out-brian-daboll-after-learning-of-defensive-staff-firings The original disagreement was regarding Wink going rogue against Daboll's conservative game plan and sending pressure. It's funny because McDermott had tension with him for telling him to have a more balanced offense! Now he's firing Wink's people and trying to indirectly get him to leave. Seems like there is a lot of tension in that building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, Strethor said: Seems like there is a lot of tension in that building. I bet Gettleman is still there, skulking around, counting how many granola bars players are taking. 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 35 minutes ago, Strethor said: The original disagreement was regarding Wink going rogue against Daboll's conservative game plan and sending pressure. It's funny because McDermott had tension with him for telling him to have a more balanced offense! Now he's firing Wink's people and trying to indirectly get him to leave. Seems like there is a lot of tension in that building. There was allegedly tension when he was with the Bills. What's the common denominator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I’m just happy I don’t have to bang my head into a cabinet 4-5 critical times in games when Daboll called plays that drove the whole game thread insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Sounds like Daboll is a bit of a problem. Closer to Rex Ryan than Bill Belichick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: I’m just happy I don’t have to bang my head into a cabinet 4-5 critical times in games when Daboll called plays that drove the whole game thread insane. 3rd and 1 - lets try a double reverse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 12/9/2023 at 11:54 AM, phypon said: I'd also add that McD also went through 2 OC's, 1 DC, a special teams coach, and a WR coach in the span of what...just over two years? Allen's on his third OC in as many seasons, and people wonder why he's not playing perfectly. For a moment I thought that Daboll had berated one of his assistant coaches for having gotten a gift from his unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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