1ManRaid Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, That's No Moon said: Excuses are like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. This team was broken BEFORE the injuries. The injuries just made it worse. Blowing teams out by 3+ TDs every week after week 1 = broken? Did you even watch the games? Do you know what team's fan forum you are on? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Do they have snow tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just when everyone thought the Bills luck had to get better (at the end of the 2022 season, the crap kept piling up. Horrible luck. Not excusing coaching deficiencies and player getting old and/or not performing up to their past standards, but it's been two straight years of terrible luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ Yep. And the majority of those cap dollars are not coming back this year. I know some people don't like excuses. But those people also don't like reality. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Excuses are like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. This team was broken BEFORE the injuries. The injuries just made it worse. Trolling? The injuries are a major factor in the weakened D. Plus they continue to mount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, 145B4IDIE said: I read it as sarcasm, I hope I’m not dyslexic Sarcasm doesn't convey well online, even for the most skilled at it. If the poster gets lumps for it, I'm not sympathtetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 12 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ This doesn’t even show the hole picture as well. How many are playing threw injuries or unable play 1 to 3 weeks with said injury (like a concussion). I know for example my Pats have 10 on IR, 4 more out due to injury, 10 more questionable. That makes 14 out for sure and 10 playing threw injuries at best. I am sure the Bills have something similar. It’s been a bad year for injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 years in a row of this. Is it just being unlucky? Or is it a product of an aging undersized defensive unit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Lots of luck involved with winning a Super Bowl. We’ve had very little over the last 2 seasons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Philly made the SB last season with the least injured roster in the league. No coincidence there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Philly made the SB last season with the least injured roster in the league. No coincidence there. And who beat them? The 2nd least injured roster in the league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I can’t even get on the Bills, completely, due to betting on injury/age and getting bit. Guys like Milano, Knox, Elam, Benford, Oliver and Rousseau missing games… they’re all young or young enough. Jones is a normal age for an impact DL. Tre White was uncuttable due to his contract, and regardless, you don’t give up on a guy at his age off one injury. Hyde & Poyer we’re always the risk… and they seem to be living up to that risk in somewhat declined play and both missing games already. Next year we have a decision to make on guys like Tre, Hyde and Poyer. At the very least, I think you’ve got to move off Hyde and Poyer and talk Tre into a massive “restructure” aka pay cut. If not, and if they bring in more old players .. you get what you get. Von is a killer. I was for the move when we did it, and he showed out when healthy, but the injury has hurt us so bad. We desperately need him to find himself again. This team needs someone to break through on the defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 is this where we celebrate the training staff and world class facilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: I can’t even get on the Bills, completely, due to betting on injury/age and getting bit. Guys like Milano, Knox, Elam, Benford, Oliver and Rousseau missing games… they’re all young or young enough. Jones is a normal age for an impact DL. Tre White was uncuttable due to his contract, and regardless, you don’t give up on a guy at his age off one injury. Hyde & Poyer we’re always the risk… and they seem to be living up to that risk in somewhat declined play and both missing games already. Next year we have a decision to make on guys like Tre, Hyde and Poyer. At the very least, I think you’ve got to move off Hyde and Poyer and talk Tre into a massive “restructure” aka pay cut. If not, and if they bring in more old players .. you get what you get. Von is a killer. I was for the move when we did it, and he showed out when healthy, but the injury has hurt us so bad. We desperately need him to find himself again. This team needs someone to break through on the defense. Poyer after a slow start has actually played well. He wasn't as good last week (he wasn't bad he was just average) but his run of games from Washington through to the Buccs (he missed Miami nicked up) were Poyer back close to his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yeah, you might as well add Von to that list. By the time Von is healthy enough to play a full season (2024), we'll be making plans to get rid of his dead cap. Burn that down. I remember being pretty excited about the signing even though I knew it probably wasn't smart, but I didn't expect him to basically be useless beyond last thanksgiving. It's probably a good lesson to learn about big name older players. Just sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Cray51 said: This team was 3-1 and demolished their last 3 opponents before the injuries. They were the top defense in the league and had the second highest scoring offense. But don’t let facts get in the way of narratives So this team was 3 defensive players away from being one of the worst teams in the NFL? We nearly lost to the Giants and Tampa and lost to the Patriots and Jaguars. Must be common core math. Edited November 12, 2023 by TheWeatherMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Just when everyone thought the Bills luck had to get better (at the end of the 2022 season, the crap kept piling up. Horrible luck. Not excusing coaching deficiencies and player getting old and/or not performing up to their past standards, but it's been two straight years of terrible luck. That’s why McD blowing it 2 years ago with 13 seconds just hurts that much more. It was the beginning of the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Cray51 said: This team was 3-1 and demolished their last 3 opponents before the injuries. They were the top defense in the league and had the second highest scoring offense. But don’t let facts get in the way of narratives Exactly what injuries occurred on the offensive side of the ball that have contributed to the lack of production? Even with all of the injuries, the defense has performed admirably and has done enough for us to win games. The defense is not the problem right now. I don’t want to hear excuses. If the defense was giving up 30 points a game, then I would say yes there is credence to your argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 13 seconds was our year and we all knew it. .. and Luck had nothing to do with losing that. Allen left the field a winner. Just disgraceful coaching and a choke job by certain players on the field. The injuries would eventually pile up in the years after. Like in all sports, you have to take advantage of the one great opportunity you get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 No surprise. Seems to be an annual thing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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