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6 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

Forget injuries as an excuse. Lets be honest. White's done, Jones will be 32 next year. Melano in a good year misses at least 4 games every year. Mill;er's is an worthles albatross. He needs to shut up and start playing... This is what we have to look forward too?    

I agree.  Need a rebuild not a reload at this point.  Probably three years away from truly contending again.  We need two safeties, a couple linebackers, starter quality edge and DT, another boundary corner, #1 and #2 receivers.  And probably 2 new tackles and a center.  Otherwise, things look good.  

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2 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Had no bearing on the outcome. 

BS, with the time out in the bag, there’s a chance Cinci tried to pass there and Bills get a pick 6.  You can’t say it didn’t change the outcome, it changed the situation completely. 

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4 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Two turnovers to none.  That explains the game.  Can't do that against a good team.  Losing by 6 is not bad with that.

Terrible take. If you watched the game the Bills were pretty much never in it. Not once did I feel like the Bills would win. It was like hoping for a miracle. The score doesn't really tell an accurate picture. 

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Miller instead of AJE. Stupid challenge. Down 14 and playing for a long drive and have to hold them. The punt earlier. Since I said punt why is Martin our punter? He is awful. This team is officially going nowhere without an overhaul to the coaching staff. 

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Just now, KellyToTasker said:

Offense sucks. Allen has no confidence in his O Line. He’s locking in on 1-2 receivers when things don’t go well. 

Yep, people keep putting the blame on the side of the ball that doesn't have the major injuries. It's the offense, people.

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6 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Rousseau probably makes that stop. Not sure why Von is playing over him when he looks terrible 

 

I'm not even trying to dump on Von.  He's a hall of fame player and may eventually get back to playing well.  He's obviously not right.  How could a coach play him in so many critical downs?

 

I just can't understand it.

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1 minute ago, Alpo Chino said:

Yes that's what happened. What if Von makes the tackle though?  Would you still want that timeout or would you still be happy with the challenge? 

What if’s don’t work with me. I wrote at the time, I was fine with it and obviously still am. You thought I couldn’t give a reasonable explanation, yet I did. 
 

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1 minute ago, RG Murdock said:

Whatever your drinking I don't want it.... There's seeing the sunny side of things, and there's delusional. Your the latter.. By a mile!

Tell me where I am wrong. You flat out said Josh can't play from behind, and I gave you some examples of him bringing the team back. It's not delusion. It's real.

 

Now, if you want to talk about the offense looking sluggish and taking too long to get things going, I get it, but they can play from behind.

 

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2 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

Offense sucks. Allen has no confidence in his O Line. He’s locking in on 1-2 receivers when things don’t go well. 

Allen getting a lot excuses. He is not making decisions fast. It’s helping efficiency but hurting the O. 

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8 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

I agree officiating is sometimes ridiculous but we didn’t lose this on calls.  There a lot wrong here…

I mean objectively they did. The non-call face mask on Gabe in the ez more than likely leads to 7 instead of 3 and the non-call blatant slide tackle/tripping on Kincaid cost another 3. So thats 7 points right there, enough to win the game. Not to mention multiple other points in the game where questionable calls impacted the game

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2 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

defense did enough to keep it a game tho. offense the reason they lost this one

Not really. The defense sucked in the beginning of the game. It set the tone for the rest of the game. 

 

The defense couldn't get a stop to give the offense a chance.

 

The defense was less culpable but still wasn't good. The offense just sucked more. 

 

To be honest this team is not that good. I don't think they make the playoffs. 

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1 minute ago, ngbills said:

Not getting another WR is killing us. Kincaid is a nice piece but if he is catching 10 passes and our primary target we are an average team. 

 

You'll get another corner in the first round plus 4 additional defensive free agents and you'll like it!  

 

This is the problem with hiring a defensive head coach before hiring a GM.  Now the org is stuck with a lackey GM who coincidently prioritizes the defense.  

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3 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I'm not even trying to dump on Von.  He's a hall of fame player and may eventually get back to playing well.  He's obviously not right.  How could a coach play him in so many critical downs?

 

I just can't understand it.

He's had a reputation of being a big play guy. Closing the deal. 

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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Not really. The defense sucked in the beginning of the game. It set the tone for the rest of the game. 

 

The defense couldn't get a stop to give the offense a chance.

 

The defense was less culpable but still wasn't good. The offense just sucked more. 

 

To be honest this team is not that good. I don't think they make the playoffs. 

yeah unfortunately u may be right.... not sure how u can miss the playoffs with a top QB but they just might manage to do it

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5 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Allen getting a lot excuses. He is not making decisions fast. It’s helping efficiency but hurting the O. 

 

He's not making decisions fast?  You act like he's just stalling in the pocket.  He's getting rushed to make a decision (fast) far, far too often.  Then you're off any rhythm and it's difficult to regain. 

 

This is when coaching is most needed and he's abandoned. 

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2 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Commenting on your post doesn’t mean I care you lost, but you knew that. Nobody cares you lost 5k, but you knew that too.  

You cared enough to tell me you don't care. You took effort to tell a random person on a message board that you don't care about something. Do you do that to every post you don't care about? Just wondering. 

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24 minutes ago, Julio Hopkins said:

Great job trading for a corner at the deadline.  That will definitely turn this season around.

It’ll be interesting to see the play count…I feel like the guy that was sitting on his couch last week got more snaps on the line. 

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12 minutes ago, Dopey said:

What if’s don’t work with me. I wrote at the time, I was fine with it and obviously still am. You thought I couldn’t give a reasonable explanation, yet I did. 
 

Ok well if you thought it was a good challenge in the first place, then you were wrong about that. Your football knowledge might be questionable. But carry on. 

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Just now, Alpo Chino said:

You cared enough to tell me you don't care. You took effort to tell a random person on a message board that you don't care about something. Do you do that to every post you don't care about? Just wondering. 

I separated what I don’t care about for your ease. I can lead a horse to water, but if it’s a dumb horse, he won’t understand what’s in front of him. Keep wondering. 

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1 minute ago, Dopey said:

I separated what I don’t care about for your ease. I can lead a horse to water, but if it’s a dumb horse, he won’t understand what’s in front of him. Keep wondering. 

See you do care. Even if you don't say it.  I knew deep down you were a good guy. 

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Just now, Alpo Chino said:

See you do care. Even if you don't say it.  I knew deep down you were a good guy. 

Yeah, you got me. I really meant I cared you lost 5k. 

7 minutes ago, Alpo Chino said:

Ok well if you thought it was a good challenge in the first place, then IMO you were wrong about that. Your football knowledge might be questionable. But carry on. 

It’s shunned here, but I thought I’d fix this for you. 

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The Buffalo Bills have major problems that can’t be fixed by even next season. Josh Allen is becoming a problem because he is regressing and not getting better. It seems Josh Allen is at his ceiling a gimmick running quarterback that doesn’t seem to either get it or put the time into getting better. At this point I don’t even care if Josh Allen wants out of Buffalo because his act as the Bills quarterback failing in big games is getting old fast. If Josh Allen wants out of Buffalo move on from him. Because there are a lot of good quarterbacks out there today. Putting all your cap money in Josh Allen doesn’t matter if you can’t bring in quality football players to fill out the Bills roster. That Josh Allen contract extension is making it impossible to have a Super Bowl quality roster for the Bills. $53 million dollars a year for Josh Allen is ridiculous if he isn’t willing to put in the study time to get better. Face it Bills fans I don’t like to post this but Josh Allen has flat out sucked this season in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

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1 hour ago, WMDman said:

He tried to hurdle when he didn’t need too, also I’m very angry rn so Im just ranting I guess

Not sure he tried to hurdle. He took the momentum. It was just an unfortunate turnover 

45 minutes ago, Dietcoke44 said:

Stefon saying “I’m not even f’ing sweating” in front of press before slamming the door.  Not a good look.

The guy cares about winning. Nothing to see here. 

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38 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

The Buffalo Bills have major problems that can’t be fixed by even next season. Josh Allen is becoming a problem because he is regressing and not getting better. It seems Josh Allen is at his ceiling a gimmick running quarterback that doesn’t seem to either get it or put the time into getting better. At this point I don’t even care if Josh Allen wants out of Buffalo because his act as the Bills quarterback failing in big games is getting old fast. If Josh Allen wants out of Buffalo move on from him. Because there are a lot of good quarterbacks out there today. Putting all your cap money in Josh Allen doesn’t matter if you can’t bring in quality football players to fill out the Bills roster. That Josh Allen contract extension is making it impossible to have a Super Bowl quality roster for the Bills. $53 million dollars a year for Josh Allen is ridiculous if he isn’t willing to put in the study time to get better. Face it Bills fans I don’t like to post this but Josh Allen has flat out sucked this season in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Come on now. This is way over the top. Without Allen this team would be lucky to win 5 or 6 games. Definitely wouldn't be making the playoffs. 

 

There are not plenty of good QBs out there. That's a ridiculous statement. 

 

Instead of railing on Allen you should be voicing your displeasure on the GZm and coaching staff. They are the major contributors of the Bills failures. Failed to solidify oline, poor WR core, inconsistent run game, poor play calling, poor scheme, cap limitations, etc...

 

The one thing I do agree with is about Allen not putting in the work. I have no proof of it but it sure seems like he's pulling a Michael Vick. 

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