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  On 10/23/2023 at 4:08 PM, Success said:

 

Was that really wind?

 

It looked like he put some kind of crazy spin on it. I don't remember the ball moving that much even in the wind game against the Pats.

 

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I’ve also never seen a kick move like that from just the kicker hitting a knuckleball or whatever you wanna call it. There were winds of 15-20mph during the game but I don’t think we can be certain either way without seeing the goalpost flags in a replay .

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I don't have the energy to rationally discuss Special Teams. 

 

For how heavily we invest in this unit, we better not be having any more conversations about them moving forward. 

 

Missed FG's, punt return for a TD in OT... gave up another big punt return yesterday.  Feeling the need to justify their investment by playing games with their kickoffs.

 

It's all exhausting. 

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  On 10/23/2023 at 2:58 PM, JESSEFEFFER said:

 That kick attempt looked windblown for sure much like what happens at the scoreboard end at the stadium fka the Ralph.  I do not think  a mishit football can slice as much as my mishit tee shots do but the flags on the goalposts were still at the time.  Patriots up to some shenanigans with the wind currents maybe.  That was a headscratcher as to what went on.

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Belicheat said prior to the season that their new scoreboard would do that.

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Honestly McDermott could have elected to call a timeout to help Bass when the winds started gusting before the kick.

 

Another issue was Martin's spot. Upon replay it showed not the ideal placement of the ball as Bass' foot contacted the ball. Unlike an ideal place kick the ball wasn't hit in the sweet spot due to poor placement (ball looked angled to the left) / caused either by a bad snap or Martin hold miscue. Bass reaction points to displeasure in the hold and / or disbelief in the wind. Clearly if the wind speed was 0 mph you can get by with this effort. But when weather is a factor the snap, hold, and kick timing have to be in-sync. At the moment the ball left Bass foot you can see the typical end over end vertical 90°, was more a 75° end over end rotation. This causes the ball to take on more angular rotation and any gusts are going to affect the ball after it reaches maximum velocity and height. Norwood's kick was a perfect end over end, but his hips did not rotate. Bass kick was heading straight until the ball speed slowed and the wobbling of the ball caused by bad hold wind speed caused the ball to sail right. 

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  On 10/23/2023 at 2:58 PM, JESSEFEFFER said:

 That kick attempt looked windblown for sure much like what happens at the scoreboard end at the stadium fka the Ralph.  I do not think  a mishit football can slice as much as my mishit tee shots do but the flags on the goalposts were still at the time.  Patriots up to some shenanigans with the wind currents maybe.  That was a headscratcher as to what went on.

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they turned on the hidden fans in the upper deck. #Belicheatin'

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  On 10/23/2023 at 4:15 PM, gobills404 said:

I’ve also never seen a kick move like that from just the kicker hitting a knuckleball or whatever you wanna call it. There were winds of 15-20mph during the game but I don’t think we can be certain either way without seeing the goalpost flags in a replay .

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That was a weird kick for sure.

 

Watching it again I think Bass just sliced the heck out of it. 

 

The streamers on the goal posts were barely moving, and I don't see the refs pants moving either. If it was the wind it would have to be the flukiest burst of wind in history to only effect the path the kick was on and nothing else. Doesn't look like a defender tipped it either. 

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When I saw the replay, it seemed that Bass wasn't ready for the snap. The ball was down and he looked hurried, trying to get his steps right. That could cause a mis-hit, shanking the ball.

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  On 10/23/2023 at 4:22 PM, Eastport bills said:

The other kicker had zero problems. They don’t ask why with kickers, it’s makes and misses.

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But what if there was some previously unseen weather phenomenon during the game? Something like, I don’t know, winds not being constant? 

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  On 10/23/2023 at 7:19 PM, Freak-O said:

But what if there was some previously unseen weather phenomenon during the game? Something like, I don’t know, winds not being constant? 

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He misses a few more FGs that crush us, you won’t use any wind excuses. Previous seasons he’s been great. This is the life of a kicker. No matter his history, he can’t lose you a game.

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