PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 A friend and myself were discussing how just a couple years ago we were all saying how tough the AFC is going to be with so many great QBs in it. Well now in 2023 it seems we have 3 established great QBs and the rest well stink. We had a hard time thinking of a top 5 in the AFC. 1. Mahomes - the best of the best till they are dethroned. 2. Allen — been consistently good for years now. 3. Burrow — having a bad year but been good since he entered the league. we thought Rogers be the next one but agreed with him out maybe it Jackson? But the Ravens O still kind of stinks and he has weapons now. Tua could be 4 but will he stay healthy this year? Then Lawrence has shown flashes of being good but has been average most of the time.. after then the rest are garbage or rookies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Got to throw Herbert in your conversation. Think it is a simple thing of coaching that’s holding him back from being a bonafide star. Guy is definitely a top 10 QB in the league if not top 5 in the AFC. Edited October 15, 2023 by BBFL 3 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Amazing how much better AFC QBs are than NFC QBs. Hurts and Purdy? Just not much in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 First upvote for 🌟MJ🏈10🌟 gets a free kick in the 🥜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 The top 3 qbs in the league all play in the afc. So right off the bat its a tough road to team success. I would add herbert into the great qbs as well. I saw a stat this week that he is 21-4 when the chargers give us less than 27 points and 6-23 when they dont. The fact that there are 29 games his defense has given up more than 27 is crazy. Tua and lamar are very good qbs. Thats 6 teams with good to great qbs and 7 playoff spots. It is very difficult in the afc and good qbs will miss the playoffs each year. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Amazing how much better AFC QBs are than NFC QBs. Hurts and Purdy? Just not much in the NFC. Hurts, Purdy, Dax, heck Goff has looked real good in Detroit the last couple of years. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 What about Mac Jones? Future HOF, remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, finn said: What about Mac Jones? Future HOF, remember? Dear sir / madam: As per Mr. Jones contract with Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe, please be advised our client must be referred to by his copyright identity as 🌟MJ🏈10🌟 on all printed material. Prepare to die. Yours truly, Inigo Montoya Junior Partner Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe * Hey, where's our Inigo Montoya been? 🤔 Edited October 15, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Herbert is garbage? Tua is garbage? The rookies don’t count because they are rookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 AFC has a bunch of Super Bowl and Super Bowl winning QBs. SB wins Mahomes Rodgers R. Wilson SB appearance Burrow Garoppolo The rest Allen Herbert L. Jackson Tua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, finn said: What about Mac Jones? Future HOF, remember? I never EVER said FOH for him. I think I was consistent saying we didn’t know what he was yet lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I never EVER said FOH for him. I think I was consistent saying we didn’t know what he was yet lol. If there ever was 'proof' of mainstream media attempting to write their own narrative, it wasn't anything political - it was the anointing of 🌟MJ🏈10🌟 as the next great QB of the AFC. Edited October 15, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Fall of Hame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, finn said: What about Mac Jones? Future HOF, remember? He's so good that he may not even start against us next week. The Pats are actually playing Malik Cunningham in spots today and if Mac has a bad game they may end up going with....wait for it...Will Greir against us next week. 🤣🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Josh #1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: He's so good that he may not even start against us next week. The Pats are actually playing Malik Cunningham in spots today and if Mac has a bad game they may end up going with....wait for it...Will Greir against us next week. 🤣🤣🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I never EVER said FOH for him. I think I was consistent saying we didn’t know what he was yet lol. I was just teasing. We did hear a lot of media figures pumping him up that first year. I recall which one--Nick Wright, probably--claim that Allen wasn't even the best QB in the AFC East (implying Jones was). That hasn't aged well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 There is a very clear top 2 and very clear next three rank them how you want Mahomes Allen Herbert Jackson Burrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Kaenon said: AFC has a bunch of Super Bowl and Super Bowl winning QBs. SB wins Mahomes Rodgers R. Wilson SB appearance Burrow Garoppolo The rest Allen Herbert L. Jackson Tua Mahomes is tops Rodgers is hurt and on IR for my list lol Wilson is trash now. Jimmy G is made of glass Burrows top 3 Allen top 3 Herbert — a stat machine but loses Jackson/Tua I’m not sold on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Process said: There is a very clear top 2 and very clear next three rank them how you want Mahomes Allen Herbert Jackson Burrow After seeing Trevor Lawrence go toe-to-toe with Josh Allen last week, I think he has to be in the conversation with Herbert, Jackson, Burrow and Tua. Really good player who’s definitely on the rise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 AFC E Allen and Tua AFC W Mahomes and Herbert AFC S Lawrence + Stroud and Richardson have potential AFC N Lamar and Burrow (I think Watson has fallen off a cliff but who knows?) NFC E Dak and Hurts NFC W Purdy (Stafford if you want him) NFC S … NFC N Goff and Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Hurts, Purdy, Dax, heck Goff has looked real good in Detroit the last couple of years. That's your defense of the NFC? The AFC is clearly more stacked at QB and it isn't even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Hurts, Purdy, Dax, heck Goff has looked real good in Detroit the last couple of years. How are you going to discuss Dax but not Herbert. Dax is TRASH mahomes, Allen, burrow, Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Tua throw in rookies like Stroud and Richardson NFC is trash at QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, PBF81 said: Fall of Hame? Lol right now he is in the Hall of Shame.. now if only I could put that pick of GOT with the lady ringing the bell lol 4 hours ago, bobobonators said: How are you going to discuss Dax but not Herbert. Dax is TRASH mahomes, Allen, burrow, Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Tua throw in rookies like Stroud and Richardson NFC is trash at QB Dax wins at least in the regular season.. Herbert does not.. Richardson looks like a short career with the way he plays.. stroud I’m not impressed with I think Young could be great.. I hate trying rank rookies because they are that rookies Edited October 15, 2023 by PatsFanNH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Tua may be a mirage, how long can they afford this offense around him, and how does he look without these ridiculous skill players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: A friend and myself were discussing how just a couple years ago we were all saying how tough the AFC is going to be with so many great QBs in it. Well now in 2023 it seems we have 3 established great QBs and the rest well stink. We had a hard time thinking of a top 5 in the AFC. 1. Mahomes - the best of the best till they are dethroned. 2. Allen — been consistently good for years now. 3. Burrow — having a bad year but been good since he entered the league. we thought Rogers be the next one but agreed with him out maybe it Jackson? But the Ravens O still kind of stinks and he has weapons now. Tua could be 4 but will he stay healthy this year? Then Lawrence has shown flashes of being good but has been average most of the time.. after then the rest are garbage or rookies. You forgot the 🐐 Mac Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Tua may be a mirage, how long can they afford this offense around him, and how does he look without these ridiculous skill players. yup. he is playing well no doubt - but lets not forget he was contemplating retirement for concussions just a few months ago. Not sure how much more he can/will take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I recently saw someone write that Burrow is Kirk Cousins with a better overall team around him and I haven’t gotten it out of my mind since. I find it very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Richardson looks like a short career with the way he plays.. stroud I’m not impressed with I think Young could be great.. I hate trying rank rookies because they are that rookies It's early with those guys, but I'd be pretty stunned if Richardson ever turned into much more than an average QB, a tweener starter/back-up type. His weaknesses aren't the most coachable issues to understate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol right now he is in the Hall of Shame.. now if only I could put that pick of GOT with the lady ringing the bell lol Dax wins at least in the regular season.. Herbert does not.. Richardson looks like a short career with the way he plays.. stroud I’m not impressed with I think Young could be great.. I hate trying rank rookies because they are that rookies It's like he tries to play like earlier Josh but either doesn't have as dense bones or doesn't know how to take hits as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Half the QBs in the AFC are good enough to make their team competitive any given Sunday. Teams looking for a QB in 2024 Las Vegas, Tennessee, New England, NY Jets (regardless of A Rod). Teams stuck and/or possibly looking for a QB in 2024 Denver, Cleveland, Pittsburgh TBD Team Indy - figuring out Richardson, luckily they have a good backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 hours ago, mannc said: After seeing Trevor Lawrence go toe-to-toe with Josh Allen last week, I think he has to be in the conversation with Herbert, Jackson, Burrow and Tua. Really good player who’s definitely on the rise. No major offense to Lawrence, but he played against our backup defense almost all game. That said, he had some strong plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: You forgot the 🐐 Mac Jones Lmao goat for what she’ll shocked QB HOF? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 8 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Hurts, Purdy, Dax, heck Goff has looked real good in Detroit the last couple of years. Cousins has been a solid producer for years. Can’t over come a consistently awful Defense. He’s definitely better than Dak and Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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