Doc Brown Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 18 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To the bolded - I think he did too. Remember all the talk was that Kyle loved Mac and there were still people right up to the day insisting it would be Mac Jones. I never thought that because I couldn't see them going all the way up to #3 for a guy like Mac, but does make you wonder. Lance to the 49ers never a lot of sense to me. I also agree Kyle is the best play designed of his generation. There are lot of his disciples out there in the NFL as HC and OC on other teams and Mike McDaniel is good, Sean McVay is good, but neither of them are Kyle Shanahan and their offenses are just not as productive as a result. Shanahan addressed this directly on a podcast before last season that when they made the trade they knew it was going to be either Mac Jones or Trey Lance. They just weren't sure yet (which is crazy to me giving up two first round picks for him and swapping one). I also remember reading in an article shortly following that draft that while he believes being able to play from the pocket is the most important QB trait there's added value in being able to run because it will make playing from the pocket easier. I think he really liked both QB's but Lance's higher athletic ceiling persuaded him to take him. RG3's rookie campaign and watching Josh Allen destroy his defense on MNF may have played a role in that decision too. Just my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I like the 9ers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 8:33 AM, BeavercreekBillsFan said: 100% right on CMC. Beane loves getting Carolina guys but can’t work out a deal for the best panther player and best weapon in the league? I’m sure CMC had a huge say in where he went and if I’m a RB in this league then I probably wanna go to the 49ers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Purdy makes less than every Golden State Warrior. He makes a high level WNBA salary. A great fit for the Shanahan scheme. More mobile than Tua, great accuracy, instinct and feel for the game, with pocket level mobility and athleticism a tier below Mahomes. My belief is that the supporting cast and playbook makes his life easy. Once injuries to the supporting cast inevitably happen, he will have to do more and that is when we will find out how sustainable he is. We’ve seen one major injury so far. My belief is he is injury prone and his career will more resemble the Jimmy G path than Golden Boy Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Purdy makes less than every Golden State Warrior. He makes a high level WNBA salary. A great fit for the Shanahan scheme. More mobile than Tua, great accuracy, instinct and feel for the game, with pocket level mobility and athleticism a tier below Mahomes. My belief is that the supporting cast and playbook makes his life easy. Once injuries to the supporting cast inevitably happen, he will have to do more and that is when we will find out how sustainable he is. We’ve seen one major injury so far. My belief is he is injury prone and his career will more resemble the Jimmy G path than Golden Boy Brady. His athleticism and pocket mobility is way more than a tier below mahomes He's got the easiest job out of any quarterback in the NFL... He's not a Creator like Patrick mahomes or Josh Allen His athleticism is way below those two guys... He has fitz evel athleticism... Maybe less Which is still not bad 4.5 ras score which is relative athleticism... Mahomes is in the 8s.. fitz in 7s... They aren't in the same mold of an athlete, purdy and mahomes Edited October 15, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 The one thing I've enjoyed about the 49ers this year - watching Nick Wright squirm over his bad Brock Purdy takes, continually doubling down or nit-picking weird things to avoid admitting he was wrong. It's waking a lot of people up to his terrible takes, and I never miss an opportunity to remind people this is exactly what he's done with Allen the past several years. But if Purdy wins a Super Bowl before Allen, I'll be pissed 😅 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 3:15 PM, Buffalo716 said: Allen has had to play Superman because we didn't have pieces around early on He's in his 6th year and we've never given him a legitimate NFL game... This is the best one we've given him in six years And he's already not running as much ... Year 3 Josh had the quickest release.. ran dabolls plays and only ad-lib when he needed.. he wasn't running around like a chicken with his head cut off Josh has taken in coaching everywhere from Boll to palmer and daboll and has grown leaps in 6 years Give Shanahan , Allen coming out of college and he's probably got two super bowls already and mastered his offense You say he doesn't want his quarterback ad libbing... Nobody wants their quarterback ad libbing every play... but it's a fact that plays will break down in the NFL... That's a guaranteed fact What separates the good quarterbacks from the great QBs... Are the ability to create when the play breaks down... within or outside the pocket Even Brady and Montana could create inside the pocket , when it broke down .. obviously big Ben had his ability.. Steve young, mahomes There's not a coach alive who doesn't get pissed off at their quarterback sometimes... Especially if you've coached them for years Purdy is the epitome of a system quarterback and the league is going to figure out his weakness very soon because the game tape is piling up he has little film on him and a tremendous team around him... With an offensive guru The Stars aligned for purdy to be a successful NFL quarterback and good for him As far as Purdy and his game tape, I think that’s where people are missing the point. What exactly are you going to see on his tape that’s going to help you defend their never ending list of weapons. All you’re going to see is him throwing it to wide open guys all day long. What exactly do you plan to gather from watching that? Point being once they got CMC, they became unguardable even with a bottom tier qb. They aren’t something you can defend because KS mixes things up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: As far as Purdy and his game tape, I think that’s where people are missing the point. What exactly are you going to see on his tape that’s going to help you defend their never ending list of weapons. All you’re going to see is him throwing it to wide open guys all day long. What exactly do you plan to gather from watching that? Point being once they got CMC, they became unguardable even with a bottom tier qb. They aren’t something you can defend because KS mixes things up too much. There is no such thing as an offense that is unguardable... It doesn't exist There is a game plan for every single offense and defense... The greatest show on turf got stopped... The no huddle bills got stopped.. The undefeated Patriots got stopped Kyle shanahan uses window dressing.. that's all that motion is.. Sean McDermott knows it too.. Don't even pay attention to it and play your technique... Pattern matching zone coverages, get your hands up at the line of scrimmage.. and bracket CMC The bills do stuff to offenses that the rest of the league can't figure out.. now we took a lot of injuries but that doesn't mean an NFL defense doesn't have the answer.. even ours ... Sean can gameplan... Especially if he had two weeks before the super bowl Because there's absolutely an answer Edited October 15, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 My vote is for the Jaguars!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: His athleticism and pocket mobility is way more than a tier below mahomes He's got the easiest job out of any quarterback in the NFL... He's not a Creator like Patrick mahomes or Josh Allen His athleticism is way below those two guys... He has fitz evel athleticism... Maybe less Which is still not bad 4.5 ras score which is relative athleticism... Mahomes is in the 8s.. fitz in 7s... They aren't in the same mold of an athlete, purdy and mahomes Small hands and limited arm. I was right about the supporting cast sustaining injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 This is some serious smashmouth Lake Erie football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 49ers lose to the Browns, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Purdy has been exposed. Looks like the party is over. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 9:34 AM, 90sBills said: Forty nine niners sound very villainous. They might lose this Sunday to the Browns. Well well. Thank you Purdy for making me $$$! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I don't know about biggest villain, but Purdy does have the most punchable face in the NFL. Just something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, gomper said: This is some serious smashmouth Lake Erie football Very physical game today...the Browns were up to the task That game had me wondering though...how many other teams can go toe to toe with SF in a slugfest like that for 60 minutes? The Lions probably could, Eagles maybe. Not sure how we would fare with the injuries on Defense and our inconsistent running game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 The only Darth Vader’s left in the NFL are the Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Brock Purdy without his weapons is equal to Zach Wilson and the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I don't know about biggest villain, but Purdy does have the most punchable face in the NFL. Just something about it. Mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: Mahomes Have you seen Joe Burrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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