Dr Krentist Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Maybe he's biased because he was a QB but he, not necessarily blames the WRs, but thinks they could have done more to help JA. Goes to show its the little things in every position that can alter or make a play. 6 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 In my opinion, this is an indictment on Dorsey. If he didn't design it this way, he's certainly allowed the players to practice it this way. 6 1 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special. I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special. I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft 3 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft Gonna have to trade 3-4 first rd picks and more to get up there this season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB. 7 1 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: In my opinion, this is an indictment on Dorsey. If he didn't design it this way, he's certainly allowed the players to practice it this way. Valid point. 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB. I know its early and there are 16 games left, but they're not saying that in Miami right now. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I know its early and there are 16 games left, but they're not saying that in Miami right now. The point is if Tua needs those two to be good he is the wrong guy. We won't find out until the contract issue forces the point. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Curious to know if Kincaid was running the right depth per the Bills. Bad route running or bad route design? Maybe a rookie playing his first game making rookie mistakes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB. Does Hurts need Brown and Smith or Burrow need Chase and Higgins? Or San Fran need Samuel, Kittle, and Mcaffery? 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special. I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. In OT watch the route Diggs runs on the incomplete. He made his cut and then stands there for a quick sec before moving - hence an incompletion by a few inches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: In OT watch the route Diggs runs on the incomplete. He made his cut and then stands there for a quick sec before moving - hence an incompletion by a few inches. I’ll definitely do that as that play just seemed a little odd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Does Hurts need Brown and Smith or Burrow need Chase and Higgins? Or San Fran need Samuel, Kittle, and Mcaffery? San Fran, yes. Cos they don't have a top flight QB. They need to elevate him. With the other two they didn't know at the point they added the 2nd guy. If they remove the second guy and it falls apart it ain't the right guy. If you can't make it work with Diggs, David, Knox and Kincaid it is the wrong QB. 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I’ll definitely do that as that play just seemed a little odd It was odd cos the QB turned a scripted play into a scramble drill unnecessarily. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) Gee basically same thing I said about the Davis play and most disagreed with. Guess the board knows better than Kurt Warner and Troy Aikman. Sauce was covering Kincaid. Josh made the right read to Davis. Davis route messed that play up. Edited September 15, 2023 by Scott7975 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft We’re not doing that, but our WR room outside Diggs isn’t mediocre… it’s below average unless Davis decides he’s actually a WR2. Currently we have a WR3 and some WR4’s supporting Diggs and a couple TE’s that heaven knows we’ll ever figure out how to use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft So, how do we decide who gives up their first born? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Gee basically same thing I said about the Davis play and most disagreed with. Guess the board knows better than Kurt Warner and Troy Aikman. Sauce was covering Kincaid. Josh made the right read to Davis. Davis route messed that play up. how often was sauce covering Kincaid. That’s a good sign if they put their number 1 on the rook 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Charles Romes said: how often was sauce covering Kincaid. That’s a good sign if they put their number 1 on the rook Sauce wasn’t “covering” Kincaid all night, so much as there were times when Kincaid’s route brought him into Gardner’s zone responsibility. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) Who does Warner think he is telling us smart things about football. Edited September 16, 2023 by Goin Breakdown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 When there's open receivers, regardless of the reason, and Allen isn't under that much pressure that he doesn't have time to read/see them, and doesn't hit them and instead goes into double or triple coverage for an incompletion or INT, it's not the receivers. Send four out, hopefully one or two are open. THAT'S the job, process which one quickly, pre-reading the D is key, and then hit that open WR. I don't know where the post is, but I specifically pointed out numerous times when that was exactly the case and Allen did not hit the open guy or even try. And I included none where there would have been any chance of an INT whatsoever. It also gets old having everyone but McD get any of the blame for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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