Kurt Warner analysis of JA

[Dr Krentist]

 

Maybe he's biased because he was a QB but he, not necessarily blames the WRs, but thinks they could have done more to help JA. Goes to show its the little things in every position that can alter or make a play.

[Fleezoid]

In my opinion, this is an indictment on Dorsey. If he didn't design it this way, he's certainly allowed the players to practice it this way. 

[78thealltimegreat]

I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. 

In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special.

 

I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. 
 

Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. 

[VaMilBill]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:22 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. 

In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special.

 

I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. 
 

Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. 

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Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft

[NewEra]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:28 PM, VaMilBill said:

Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft

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Gonna have to trade 3-4 first rd picks and more to get up there this season

[GunnerBill]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:28 PM, VaMilBill said:

Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft

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If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB.

[billsbackto81]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:17 PM, Fleezoid said:

In my opinion, this is an indictment on Dorsey. If he didn't design it this way, he's certainly allowed the players to practice it this way. 

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Valid point. 

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:33 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB.

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I know its early and there are 16 games left, but they're not saying that in Miami right now. 

[GunnerBill]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:34 PM, billsbackto81 said:

 

I know its early and there are 16 games left, but they're not saying that in Miami right now. 

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The point is if Tua needs those two to be good he is the wrong guy. We won't find out until the contract issue forces the point. 

[juno999]

Curious to know if Kincaid was running the right depth per the Bills.  Bad route running or bad route design?  Maybe a rookie playing his first game making rookie mistakes.

[78thealltimegreat]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:33 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

If your QB needs Diggs and Harrison to be win you have the wrong QB.

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Does Hurts need Brown and Smith or Burrow need Chase and Higgins? Or San Fran need Samuel, Kittle, and Mcaffery?

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:22 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

I don’t think Dorsey knows what to do Josh played a very good first half… had a rough second half…recovered enough to get them in field goal range to tie it. 

In OT Knox dropped a pass, called a draw on 2nd and 15, and then Josh threw on incompletion to Diggs. Then a Sam Martin line drive special.

 

I agree with Kurt’s analysis these receivers don’t really make contested catches or fight for balls. 
 

Now Dorsey has admitted he didn’t want Josh running and limited his runs. 

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In OT watch the route Diggs runs on the incomplete.  He made his cut and then stands there for a quick sec before moving - hence an incompletion by a few inches.

[78thealltimegreat]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:43 PM, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

 

In OT watch the route Diggs runs on the incomplete.  He made his cut and then stands there for a quick sec before moving - hence an incompletion by a few inches.

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I’ll definitely do that as that play just seemed a little odd 

[GunnerBill]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:40 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

Does Hurts need Brown and Smith or Burrow need Chase and Higgins? Or San Fran need Samuel, Kittle, and Mcaffery?

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San Fran, yes. Cos they don't have a top flight QB. They need to elevate him. With the other two they didn't know at the point they added the 2nd guy. If they remove the second guy and it falls apart it ain't the right guy. If you can't make it work with Diggs, David, Knox and Kincaid it is the wrong QB.

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:49 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

I’ll definitely do that as that play just seemed a little odd 

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It was odd cos the QB turned a scripted play into a scramble drill unnecessarily. 

[Scott7975]

Gee basically same thing I said about the Davis play and most disagreed with.  Guess the board knows better than Kurt Warner and Troy Aikman.  Sauce was covering Kincaid.  Josh made the right read to Davis.  Davis route messed that play up.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Scott7975

[SCBills]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:28 PM, VaMilBill said:

Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft

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We’re not doing that, but our WR room outside Diggs isn’t mediocre… it’s below average unless Davis decides he’s actually a WR2.  
 

Currently we have a WR3 and some WR4’s supporting Diggs and a couple TE’s that heaven knows we’ll ever figure out how to use. 

[Augie]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:28 PM, VaMilBill said:

Our WR corps is mediocre outside of Diggs. I would very much be in favor of trading up to get Marvin Harrison jr next draft

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So, how do we decide who gives up their first born?   🤷‍♂️

[Charles Romes]

  On 9/15/2023 at 9:59 PM, Scott7975 said:

Gee basically same thing I said about the Davis play and most disagreed with.  Guess the board knows better than Kurt Warner and Troy Aikman.  Sauce was covering Kincaid.  Josh made the right read to Davis.  Davis route messed that play up.

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how often was sauce covering Kincaid. That’s a good sign if they put their number 1 on the rook

[K-9]

  On 9/15/2023 at 10:03 PM, Charles Romes said:

how often was sauce covering Kincaid. That’s a good sign if they put their number 1 on the rook

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Sauce wasn’t “covering” Kincaid all night, so much as there were times when Kincaid’s route brought him into Gardner’s zone responsibility. 

[Goin Breakdown]

Who does Warner think he is telling us smart things about football. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Goin Breakdown

[PBF81]

When there's open receivers, regardless of the reason, and Allen isn't under that much pressure that he doesn't have time to read/see them, and doesn't hit them and instead goes into double or triple coverage for an incompletion or INT, it's not the receivers.  

 

Send four out, hopefully one or two are open.  THAT'S the job, process which one quickly, pre-reading the D is key, and then hit that open WR.  

 

I don't know where the post is, but I specifically pointed out numerous times when that was exactly the case and Allen did not hit the open guy or even try.  And I included none where there would have been any chance of an INT whatsoever.  

 

 

It also gets old having everyone but McD get any of the blame for this.