Coldfronts Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Got a feeling this was going to be Boogies break out season. Did Breane not give him the time (one more year) to develop like he did to Teller who is now an all pro G or did beane make the right move why? 7 2 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 If he does, it will be because of a change in scheme. Unlike Teller, Basham had plenty of chances here to prove himself in actual regular season games. 4 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 French has it right,Boogie had every opportunity to win a job here and constantly failed to show up. Trading him is the right move. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 How many times is the latest guy to leave going to be the next Wyatt Teller? 3 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Yeah those 5 sacks in 2 years should really make someone think “break out year” 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Not likely IMO. I believe he will do what he's always done. Flash for a play here and there and then go 6 weeks of being invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I feel like Shaq Lawson has slightly better burst being a vet with a better pass rush skill set and more stout in run game. I'm glad we kept him. KJ too has a lot of juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Only time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 All Pro Boogie Basham? I don’t know about that…while Boogie definitely looked better than he had in previous years, the bottom line was that he couldn’t beat out UDFA Kingsley Jonathan. Even if he did, he would be the 5th or 6th DE on the team. Even with a DL rotation, where was he going to get snaps? If anything I think he could be the next Isaiah Hodgins. A player that was buried on the depth chart with the Bills that left for a team which gave him more opportunities that he made the most of. I’m sure some fans will continue to whine about it too. 3 minutes ago, Augie said: How many times is the latest guy to leave going to be the next Wyatt Teller? Some fans will point to Isaiah Hodgkins. He turned out of be a solid WR with NYG, but he’s far from an All-Pro 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 No. Boogie is not particularly good at much. People need to stop making the same lazy comparison to Wyatt Teller. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Got a feeling this was going to be Boogies break out season. Did Breane not give him the time (one more year) to develop like he did to Teller who is now an all pro G or did beane make the right move why? Obviously from his post-cutdown interview, Beane is concerned about that too. But he seems more concerned with keeping the guys who are best for THIS year. But I do need to point out the "one more year" thing. I'm not sure this is your mistake, but Teller did not need "one more year" in Cleveland. He played "right bench" the first half of the season after the trade, took over for injury and played decently, then became a 2nd team all-pro the following year on a strong RUNNING team (4 for attempts, 3 for yards). It's been said previously that Beane traded Teller and he became an "instant all pro" in Cleveland, that's not true. Beane traded Teller who sat on the bench, then became a 2nd team all pro 2 years later - and again, on a strong RUNNING team. 9 minutes ago, Augie said: How many times is the latest guy to leave going to be the next Wyatt Teller? As many times as Beane trades off a guy we drafted with years left on his contract. Well, OK - I didn't hear anyone suggesting that about Zach Moss or Cody Ford, but then, I didn't hear anyone suggesting that about Wyatt Teller the first year after we traded him either. Edited September 4, 2023 by Beck Water 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 The OP has a fair question though I'm not a big fan of dragging Teller into the discussion. Will it be viewed as a mistake to trade away Boogie Basham (especially for almost nothing)? Basham had his best preseason so far and I for one was excited to see how much he improved. And though I was happy when we drafted Epenesa, I would rather have traded him than Basham. I hope McBeane got this one right though I'm a bit worried that they didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 No, he will be a player that carves out a nice career just not a needle mover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 IMO I was really surprised when Beane traded Wyatt Teller because to me Wyatt always looked promising and showed a ton of potential. Didn't understand why Beane dealt him so quickly. I don't feel this way about the Boogie trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Wyatt Teller is kind of a unicorn situation. He played DL thru high school and only switched to OL in like his junior year of college. He was still coming along and developing and learning the position. I guess they must've figured other guys on the roster were ahead of him. It's all hindsight now. Does he turn into an All Pro with the Bills or does Cleveland's scheme just suit him better? I dunno. I doubt Boogie goes off for some epic All Pro season. He's likely a depth guy no matter what team he's on. Can't wait for more posts like these during the season. Isaiah Hodgins makes a five yard catch: Beane is the worst! Boogie tackles a guy after a ten yard gain: Beane messed up! Waived draft pick Nick Broeker starts a game in Houston: it's Teller Part Two and Beane is still the worst! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Augie said: How many times is the latest guy to leave going to be the next Wyatt Teller? For every Wyatt Teller there’s a Russell Bodine or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I’m just not sure what they envisioned for boogie when they took him. Was it actually dramatically different than we saw? I’m sure a little more upside but they couldn’t have expected him to be a breakout star or anything. Just a rotational piece. and if that’s the case there’s a lot of questions about why make the pick in the first place if a guy off the street like shaq is fine in that role. Go ahead and dedicate the valuable pick elsewhere 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Has any lineman on this team lived up to their expectations other than vet minimum players? Mitch Morse? Edited September 4, 2023 by Shortchaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Got a feeling this was going to be Boogies break out season. Did Breane not give him the time (one more year) to develop like he did to Teller who is now an all pro G or did beane make the right move why? Beane must have felt keeping Boogie would have hampered the development of their other young DEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Felt boogie was starting to maybe get it thought AJE was going to be the traded target 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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