Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 We have seen now three NFL games that have been canceled recently. The Bills/Bengals game due to Damar’s injury. And then two preseason games where a player suffered potentially serious injuries where stretchers were called. what are your thoughts on this? I definitely get the cancelation of the Bills/Bengals game, since that was so unprecedented and really a life or death situation. I am less sure how I feel about the other games, and I wonder whether we will see more of these team-initiated cancelations during the regular season. There are obviously major scheduling impacts, but also there is some real decency and humanity to halting games when someone gets seriously injured. Pretty tricky situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Cancelling these preseason games? No problem whatsoever. During the season if it’s life threatening like Damar no problem either. Edited August 28, 2023 by oldmanfan 12 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, oldmanfan said: Cancelling these preseason games? No problem whatsoever. Agree. Preseason doesn’t matter. Let’s see how the regular season goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Dont care about the preseason games. Good for those coaches that called it after the injuries. Although I feel bad for the guys who may not have had a chance to play yet and needed the playing time to get on some film. It will be really interesting to see how the NFL plays out with regular season games. I'm pretty sure the league is ABSOLUTELY AGAINST canceling games like McD did. That may be the last time we see such a thing. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Damar Hamlin seemed like a unique situation since he basically died on the field was revived and had a serious risk of not making it. Not sure if since that incident if situations like what happened to Dane Jackson where a serious injury with a player who gets taken away by ambulance but isn't in life threatening condition will cancel a regular season game now or not though. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Cancelling these preseason games? No problem whatsoever. During the season if it’s life threatening like Damar no problem either. Fans better get full refunds too 2 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 They won't cancel a regular season game for anything less than what happened to Damar Hamlin last year 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Fans better get full refunds too I wish you luck with that part - pretty sure there's a disclaimer on any ticket that absolves the NFL of any liability or refunding of tickets 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dont care about the preseason games. Good for those coaches that called it after the injuries. Although I feel bad for the guys who may not have had a chance to play yet and needed the playing time to get on some film. It will be really interesting to see how the NFL plays out with regular season games. I'm pretty sure the league is ABSOLUTELY AGAINST canceling games like McD did. That may be the last time we see such a thing. I disagree. If a life threatening situation you call the game. Neither team wants to play if they are not sure a player is going to make it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: They won't cancel a regular season game for anything less than what happened to Damar Hamlin last year I wish you luck with that part - pretty sure there's a disclaimer on any ticket that absolves the NFL of any liability or refunding of tickets Vivid Seats gave me a full refund for the Cincy-Buf game + 10%.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think we’re heading to no preseason games very shortly. It’s how the league will grow revenue. 20 week seasons. 18 games, 2 byes on the way. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Sadly, Doug Whaley may have been right. "This is the game of football, It's a violent game that I personally don't think humans are supposed to play." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I disagree. If a life threatening situation you call the game. Neither team wants to play if they are not sure a player is going to make it. There is a stark difference between what is morally correct and what is best for the NFL. Canceling games in a sport where every game counts so much will completely up-end the NFL. It almost did last year. Some (Cincy) could argue that it definitely did. If this were baseball or hockey, sure. But games are valuable and schedules are tight. I was there for Kevin Everrett being paralyzed on the opening kickoff. It was a life threatening situation. There wasn't even an inclination of canceling or postponing that game. Right or wrong, football has played through major life threatening injuries throughout its history. There is also a small part of me that wonders how much the canceling of the Cincy game contributed to our "zombie state" we saw the next 3 weeks. Morally the right thing to do. But was it the right Football thing to do? Tough one to hash out on a message board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Seems like pre-season games were cancelled for the equivalent of the Dane Jackson injury from earlier last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think you're watching a sport that will either look completely different or not exist at all in 20 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think we’re heading to no preseason games very shortly. It’s how the league will grow revenue. 20 week seasons. 18 games, 2 byes on the way. I think lots of people appear to have this sentiment. But, regarding player safety, this is the worst thing to do. More meaningful games and longer seasons will only wear players down and make injuries, especially chronic ones, far more common. The NFL already walks the line with serious, life threatening injuries. 20 game seasons, with zero warm up, will cross that line. IMO Regarding the OP’s question. I haven’t seen any official league opinion. But i would think they stopped the last two games because it was preseason. But, it is quickly becoming an expectation. I think the league needs to let everyone know what the protocol is going forward. Personally, I wouldn’t suspend a game unless it was a Hamlin type situation. That was unique and far worse, just based on the players faces and reactions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dan said: I think lots of people appear to have this sentiment. But, regarding player safety, this is the worst thing to do. More meaningful games and longer seasons will only wear players down and make injuries, especially chronic ones, far more common. The NFL already walks the line with serious, life threatening injuries. 20 game seasons, with zero warm up, will cross that line. IMO Regarding the OP’s question. I haven’t seen any official league opinion. But i would think they stopped the last two games because it was preseason. But, it is quickly becoming an expectation. I think the league needs to let everyone know what the protocol is going forward. Personally, I wouldn’t suspend a game unless it was a Hamlin type situation. That was unique and far worse, just based on the players faces and reactions. To your one point, I do believe this is now becoming more of an “expectation” and I can see coaches and teams saying they don’t care what the league says if this happens in the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Cancelling these preseason games? No problem whatsoever. During the season if it’s life threatening like Damar no problem either. Yup exactly.....It's very rare any game gets canceled regular season or not anyways, but certain possible situations can occur that are much more important than football (as we experienced last season). In the event of a serious scenario that is severe like that, only someone who is a 100% pure bred ####### would have a problem if a game is canceled. Edited August 28, 2023 by Patrick Duffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I'm not concerned yet, but I see, without some guidelines, this being abused for strategic advantage because I don't know who makes that call to cancel the remainder of a game in progress. (Late season game where one team is losing big in a conference or divisional game, and a tie benefits said team more than a loss, or picking up the game later, buys time for rest or a new strategy.) I also think the gambling world would have big problems with cancelling parts of in-progress games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: There is a stark difference between what is morally correct and what is best for the NFL. Canceling games in a sport where every game counts so much will completely up-end the NFL. It almost did last year. Some (Cincy) could argue that it definitely did. If this were baseball or hockey, sure. But games are valuable and schedules are tight. I was there for Kevin Everrett being paralyzed on the opening kickoff. It was a life threatening situation. There wasn't even an inclination of canceling or postponing that game. Right or wrong, football has played through major life threatening injuries throughout its history. There is also a small part of me that wonders how much the canceling of the Cincy game contributed to our "zombie state" we saw the next 3 weeks. Morally the right thing to do. But was it the right Football thing to do? Tough one to hash out on a message board. I was at this game as well. This took all the wind out of the crowd. It was nowhere near as loud as it was before it happened. If it affected the fans imagine the players. I get why they don't stop/cancel games but I also see why some would want it to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 no problem what so ever. preseason or reg season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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