Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 👀👀 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/ken-dorsey-this-week-will-be-another-good-test-buffalo-bills Ken Dorsey: "This Week Will Be Another Good Test" | Buffalo Bills Bills offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey addressed the media before practice on Wednesday, August 16th. Topics included: the growth he's seen from offensive guard O'Cyrus Torrence, his view of the battle for backup quarterback, why he appreciates input from quarterback Josh Allen, the retirement of offensive tackle Brandon Shell, and the benefit of having competitive practices 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Preaseason Week 2 depth chart. No changes observed other than the disappearance of Brandon Shell Edited August 16, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fleezoid Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Ken Dorsey has a nuance the way he answers press conference questions that bothers me. He starts some of his answers with "Yeah, no....." And sometimes, "No, yeah......" I know a lot of folks have little quirks with the way they speak, but this just sticks out to me. Edited August 16, 2023 by Fleezoid 3 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Practice at 9:30, how long is it usually? If it's 90 minutes, should be over soon and start hearing from reporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Hopefully after yesterday someone will grab a couple steel chairs and insult someone’s mother. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Don't look now, but Andy Isabella seems to have a very real shot at not only making this roster, but playing real snaps on offense. Shakir hasn't seized the slot role. Harty seems to have a specialty/gadget/WR4 niche. The staff seems to like Sherfield at outside WR more than the slot. Meanwhile, Isabella keeps earning praise from coaches and players and climbing the depth chart. He was a 2nd round pick. He's physically talented. He's fast and twitchy. He has roster value as a returner. Still just 26 years old. Might be a perfect fit for what is asked of the slot WR in the E-P offense that the Bills run. I wouldn't have guessed it, but it just might be happening. Andy Isabella. Who'da thunk it? 11 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Ken Dorsey has a nuance the way he answers press conference questions that bothers me. He starts most of his answers with "Yeah, no....." And sometimes, "No, yeah......" I know a lot of folks have little quirks with the way they speak, but this just sticks out to me. Yeah no I don’t really think it matters. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Yeah no I don’t really think it matters. No, yeah you're right. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Don't look now, but Andy Isabella seems to have a very real shot at not only making this roster, but playing real snaps on offense. Shakir hasn't seized the slot role. Harty seems to have a specialty/gadget/WR4 niche. The staff seems to like Sherfield at outside WR more than the slot. Meanwhile, Isabella keeps earning praise from coaches and players and climbing the depth chart. He was a 2nd round pick. He's physically talented. He's fast and twitchy. He has roster value as a returner. Still just 26 years old. Might be a perfect fit for what is asked of the slot WR in the E-P offense that the Bills run. I wouldn't have guessed it, but it just might be happening. Andy Isabella. Who'da thunk it? Could happen for sure. that said, I think they’ll keep the 5th rd investment over him and try and sneak him on the ps. But if shakir keeps dropping passes, maybe, just maybe. I think Kincaid will take 65% of the slot reps 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 I would say Milano is unconvinced 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 What's the scoop from Ariz regarding Isabella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I love the pronunciation guide on the depth chart lol. "BASS (like the fish)" "Gouraige (rhymes with garage)" 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Don't look now, but Andy Isabella seems to have a very real shot at not only making this roster, but playing real snaps on offense. Shakir hasn't seized the slot role. Harty seems to have a specialty/gadget/WR4 niche. The staff seems to like Sherfield at outside WR more than the slot. Meanwhile, Isabella keeps earning praise from coaches and players and climbing the depth chart. He was a 2nd round pick. He's physically talented. He's fast and twitchy. He has roster value as a returner. Still just 26 years old. Might be a perfect fit for what is asked of the slot WR in the E-P offense that the Bills run. I wouldn't have guessed it, but it just might be happening. Andy Isabella. Who'da thunk it? I'm not persuaded, but then again --- I'm not persuaded that Torrance will be starting at RG and so forth I agree that Shakir hasn't seized the slot role, but I think where Sherfield was playing vs the Colts was a function of Diggs being out and Sherfield "next man up" there, vs. the Bills not liking him in the slot. Joe B points out that the "first man up" when the Bills put 11 personnel on the field was actually Deonte Harty, and his day was done earlier than Shakir, so I do think the Bills like him as more than "gadget guy" and may see both Sherfield and Harty as ahead of Shakir. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Ken Dorsey has a nuance the way he answers press conference questions that bothers me. He starts most of his answers with "Yeah, no....." And sometimes, "No, yeah......" I know a lot of folks have little quirks with the way they speak, but this just sticks out to me. Before long, we’ll get a: “Well, let me answer that by asking you this…” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: What's the scoop from Ariz regarding Isabella? He posted 3500 yards and 30 TDs at Umass and was drafted in round 2, ahead of guys like DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin. For whatever reason, he just didn't make any noise in Arizona. He had over 200 yards receiving his second season, which represents his career best in the NFL. After that, he seems to have been relegated to return duties only, and then wound up having a cup of coffee with the Ravens. The question is: was his lack of playing time and productivity in Arizona a result of his being a bad fit for their offense and/or the fact that their offense and QB play mostly stunk in general during his stint? Or is he simply a late bloomer and a better fit in the Bills' offense? Or, of course, option three -- his good camp and preseason play is much ado about nothing, with most of his work being done against 3rd stringers -- is also possible. Edited August 16, 2023 by Logic 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I would say Milano is unconvinced Allen is funny as heck. Dry humor, subtle. Edited August 16, 2023 by JDubya76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Logic said: He posted 3500 yards and 30 TDs at Umass and was drafted in round 2, ahead of guys like DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin. For whatever reason, he just didn't make any noise in Arizona. He had over 200 yards receiving his second season, which represents his career best in the NFL. After that, he seems to have been relegated to return duties only, and then wound up having a cup of coffee with the Ravens. The question is: was his lack of playing time and productivity in Arizona a result of his being a bad fit for their offense and/or the fact that their offense and QB play mostly stunk in general during his stint? Or is he simply a late bloomer and a better fit in the Bills' offense? Or, of course, option three -- his good camp and preseason play is much ado about nothing, with most of his work being done against 3rd stringers -- is also possible. bad to really bad QBs and playing against grocery store clerks on the third string. I would like to see him get a look with the ones to shake it all out and see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, Logic said: Don't look now, but Andy Isabella seems to have a very real shot at not only making this roster, but playing real snaps on offense. Shakir hasn't seized the slot role. Harty seems to have a specialty/gadget/WR4 niche. The staff seems to like Sherfield at outside WR more than the slot. Meanwhile, Isabella keeps earning praise from coaches and players and climbing the depth chart. He was a 2nd round pick. He's physically talented. He's fast and twitchy. He has roster value as a returner. Still just 26 years old. Might be a perfect fit for what is asked of the slot WR in the E-P offense that the Bills run. I wouldn't have guessed it, but it just might be happening. Andy Isabella. Who'da thunk it? Met him at camp. Dude is ripped, but showed great burst and seemed dialed in. With his versatility as a returner, I like keeping him on the roster. I'd say try to get Shakir on the practice squad, but we know the Giants (Bills 2.0) won't let that slide 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Capco said: I love the pronunciation guide on the depth chart lol. "BASS (like the fish)" "Gouraige (rhymes with garage)" 🤣 BUTT-ger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Kincaid being able to get that kind of separation on a physically gifted corner like Elam makes me all warm and fuzzy 3 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Andy Isabella 📈 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Logic said: He posted 3500 yards and 30 TDs at Umass and was drafted in round 2, ahead of guys like DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin. For whatever reason, he just didn't make any noise in Arizona. He had over 200 yards receiving his second season, which represents his career best in the NFL. After that, he seems to have been relegated to return duties only, and then wound up having a cup of coffee with the Ravens. The question is: was his lack of playing time and productivity in Arizona a result of his being a bad fit for their offense and/or the fact that their offense and QB play mostly stunk in general during his stint? Or is he simply a late bloomer and a better fit in the Bills' offense? Or, of course, option three -- his good camp and preseason play is much ado about nothing, with most of his work being done against 3rd stringers -- is also possible. It's an interesting question to me, actually. Kyler Murray had a pretty good passing year in 2020, I thought. Isabella was 4th on the depth chart behind Hopkins, Christian Kirk, and the Ghost of Larry Fitzgerald. In 2021, the Cards replaced Larry Fitz with AJ Green and Zach Ertz, and drafted Rondale Moore, who superceded Isabella on the depth chart and in 2022, they waived him. A good question is why the Baltimore Ravens released him towards the end of July. So it's not just one offense he's washed out of, but effectively 3 (Kingsbury, Roman, and Todd Monken). From what Dorsey and others are saying, he works hard and is doing his best to "get in the playbook", so what went wrong previously? In other news, Look who's back? Back in town? Edited August 16, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Virgil said: Met him at camp. Dude is ripped, but showed great burst and seemed dialed in. With his versatility as a returner, I like keeping him on the roster. I'd say try to get Shakir on the practice squad, but we know the Giants (Bills 2.0) won't let that slide Are you sure about that? Daboll had nothing to do with Shakir. He was a rookie last year in Daboll’s first year as HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: Met him at camp. Dude is ripped, but showed great burst and seemed dialed in. With his versatility as a returner, I like keeping him on the roster. I'd say try to get Shakir on the practice squad, but we know the Giants (Bills 2.0) won't let that slide I'd say, make the Defense take the short side of the 26/24 split for a change, but I think we all know that a snowball in 🔥 is more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: Ken Dorsey has a nuance the way he answers press conference questions that bothers me. He starts some of his answers with "Yeah, no....." And sometimes, "No, yeah......" I know a lot of folks have little quirks with the way they speak, but this just sticks out to me. Needs to use a more definitive "Maybe". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) I think Beane better heat up the trade wire and scrutinize possible cuts after LBers. Dodson seem like he trippin' Edited August 16, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Uh-oh, Injury news on Gabe Davis Bad news for Spector, and just when Bernard still injured and Dodson going berserk might open an opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Couple updates from Matt Parrino: Quote During one team period today, Josh Allen attacked the defense by getting both tight ends involved. He threw a gorgeous pass to Dalton Kincaid on left sideline and the rookie beat AJ Klein and made the grab. Dawson Knox caught a TD to end the drive. Quote It was another spirited practice. Stefon Diggs got into it with Taron Johnson after the CB tackled him to end a play. Diggs stood up and pushed Johnson off of him and then threw the ball at him. Diggs made a few nice plays throughout practice and then dropped what would have been a sensational deep ball TD from Josh Allen. Looked like he knew he made a mistake. Trent Sherfield had an awesome catch from Josh Allen and Andy Isabella shined in 1v1s. Dorsey was very complementary of Isabella, saying how QBs are noticing him in meeting rooms because he knows what he's doing and is always in the right spot. Could we be so lucky as to have unlocked Isabella's potential in his 5th season? I'm still leaning towards it being a mirage until proven otherwise but there's at least a chance the hype is for real. 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Want. More. Details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 pretty sure you want your MLB to be mean, aggressive and cranky... i like it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: BUTT-ger I was initially going to include that one too, but Ike didn't make it past the final cuts 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, billybob71 said: pretty sure you want your MLB to be mean, aggressive and cranky... i like it pretty sure you want your MLB to be physical and relentless from the snap to the whistle, but then focus on the next play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Could we be so lucky as to have unlocked Isabella's potential in his 5th season? I'm still leaning towards it being a mirage until proven otherwise but there's at least a chance the hype is for real. How do we keep him on the roster though? We running 7 receivers? I'd rather him take Shorter's spot at this point since he's been invisible all of training camp but I doubt if Beane will give up on his draft pick so quickly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Could we be so lucky as to have unlocked Isabella's potential in his 5th season? I'm still leaning towards it being a mirage until proven otherwise but there's at least a chance the hype is for real. Would be fair return for Zay Jones finally showing something in HIS 5th.....3 years after the Bills gave up and moved on 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, billybob71 said: pretty sure you want your MLB to be mean, aggressive and cranky... i like it I've always heard that you want your MLB to be a little "off" in the head. Borderline psychopath even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: pretty sure you want your MLB to be physical and relentless from the snap to the whistle, but then focus on the next play meh... he settin the tone for the year, maybe they won't be so soft when it matters this time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lost said: How do we keep him on the roster though? We running 7 receivers? I'd rather him take Shorter's spot at this point since he's been invisible all of training camp but I doubt if Beane will give up on his draft pick so quickly It is possible that Shorter will suffer that severe case of hangnail or halitosis or whatever it is that appears to afflict so many late-round draft picks who have high physical potential, but need seasoning. All around the league at the start of the season 1 minute ago, Capco said: I've always heard that you want your MLB to be a little "off" in the head. Borderline psychopath even. It has to be channeled and controlled, is the thing Edited August 16, 2023 by Beck Water 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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