Am I Nuts?

[Irv]

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Irv

[The Frankish Reich]

6 minutes ago, Irv said:

We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.

 

[B-Man]

You’re not nuts. (As far as I know)

 

The important part of your post was 

 

DON’T INVOLVE THE KIDS 

 

Most folks, conservatives and liberals do not care what you do, as long as you don’t force others on your beliefs 

 

Especially our children. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[KDIGGZ]

If you are an ADULT and you want to pay a fortune to chop off your junk and get a nice rack then it's your money do what you want! The key word here is ADULT!

 

My nephew keeps getting in trouble at school because he thinks he's a T-Rex. Now just imagine if the teachers got together and told him yes you can be a T-Rex that's totally normal and we will find a doctor for you to get you some teeth implants and chop off your arms so you have little T-Rex nubs and let's not tell your parents about it. That's exactly what's happening in schools across the nation. It's disgusting. Leave the kids alone, they don't know any better 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

you mean you and the wife don’t strap on your favorite sexy clothes and dry hump on the front lean for all the neighbors to see?

 

Of course you don’t, and of course it’s weird. my theory is most of these folks are exhibitionist attention whores. And the irony is if they keep on this path of normalizing drag too much they’ll have to up the ante with livestock or produce to get the attention they crave. 

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

 

Same - a friend is dealing with this with his 9 year old.  Believe she is a boy based on what she’s telling them.  
 

This is the result of their circle, or political bubble if you will, telling them this is ok and normal.  It isn’t.  They are brainwashed into believing this nonsense.  

Basically the thought process is this….

“My fellow leftist friends (the only people I talk to) tell me that they were born that way.  So I have to push them towards it or they will be depressed and bullied at school if I don’t.”

 

 

Remember these are people that all thought we needed masks and social distancing.  
 

The fact all this breaks along party lines tells you all you need to know.

 

[SCBills]

You’re in the vast majority. 
 

Every poll on this topic shows Americans moving to the right. 
 

Whether it’s the targeting of children or the forced compliance of Pride, people are finally over it. 
 

 

[Buffarukus]

it is very strange to make your sexual preference your entire identity whether your gay or straight. people that have to attach rainbows pins and signals year round or be cartoonishly flamboyant as possible are just as cringy as guys who wear t shirts about "boobs" and the need to comment about "what they would do" nonstop for every woman they see. i love pu###  pin is a must before i leave the house. 

 

i really wonder if a large segment of the gay community are embarrassed by some of the scenes made at gay pride parades but cant say it. guys basically naked in bondage outfits grinding around on each other. advocating there is nothing crazy about this sort of thing in front of children. most gay people i have come across or that are in my family you wouldn't even really know. its not broadcast and its not a big deal. i guess just having people walk down the street in a parade shows how normal it is. boring like the rest of us in relationships. have to make it a spectacle so we need bondage and nudity included. shut up bigot its who they are! all of them!! ooookaay then.

 

one thing is for sure. liberals are doing more harm to the lgbt community then any bigot could dream. same as they help racists segragate and look treat each other differently soley on skin pigment there are a huge amount of people that have not thought or cared about any of this. liberals force them to take a side by demanding children be exposed. that they are hateful towards a entire community if they don't comply with their own children. parents have no choice now. so good job forcing people to get involved and then determining them as enemies of a group they never thought about. the fact they are condoning secrecy while getting kids comfortable on adult topics which is straight out of a pedo playbook makes it impossible to stay on the side lines. welcome to the culture war everyone.

 

on top of that kids see the power that this wields. your teacher getting on your nerves? make him call you a new pronoun and watch him dance all year or be fired. switch it daily and your sure to find a transphobe. mom punishing you? what a great way to get attention and lash out. if only there were adults with a bit of common sense in charge. simply just say your different and libs will auto go against any who dispute it. no real evidence required. 

 

i feel truly sorry for all the tom boys and little mommas boys. if those kids have a liberal virtue signal attention hog of a parent who knows what will be pounded into the mind of a child who is super impressionable from a person they should trust the most. look at the mothers who "know" they are trans at rediculously young ages. 3? 3!!! what a wonderful accepting parent. heart emoji. 

 

in the end just like covid and blm riots liberals will destroy and leave the mess without a thought. flip the sign scribble a new slogan and on to the next "movement". by the time alot of these kids truley face the reprocussions of this insanity the liberals screaming the loudest will be on to the next group they decide are victims they must save. 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Buffarukus

[GETTOTHE50]

The leftists are absolutely ruthless. The fact they go after children that aren’t even theirs show they don’t play by any rules. Their end goal is to mind warp them so they get their votes. They don’t give a ***** about their well-being. It’s all ***** up ***** man. And no, you’re not wrong. 

[Unforgiven]

 

   I have always been an atheist. I have however  am starting to believe in the whole bible thing, lefty behavior 

totally fits exactly with demon/satan worship. This sure seems like the war they talk about in the bible.

They love crime/criminals, need to force perverse sexual stuff on others, have a weird thing about killing babies,

hate religion with a passion, hating on culture...it's really beyond bizarre and hard to explain or understand.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Unforgiven

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

you're nuts.  Absolutely, positively.  So what were the other people doing to "push it in your face"?  Were there actual sex acts involved?  Children?

 

No, I thought not.

 

concerning your own preferences, you should read the ancient greek play Lysistrata and maybe the Kama Sutra.  

[yall]

11 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

I'm more interested in this "certain way" in which you and the Mrs. engage in *****.

 

For research purposes only of course....

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, yall said:

I'm more interested in this "certain way" in which you and the Mrs. engage in *****.

 

For research purposes only of course....

I believe you are on a mission...

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, Unforgiven said:

 

   I have always been an atheist. I have however  am starting to believe in the whole bible thing, lefty behavior 

totally fits exactly with demon/satan worship. This sure seems like the war they talk about in the bible.

They love crime/criminals, need to force perverse sexual stuff on others, have a weird thing about killing babies,

hate religion with a passion, hating on culture...it's really beyond bizarre and hard to explain or understand.

 

Neo (social) Marxism.

 

The instigation of racial division has been apparent for awhile now and is a part of this as well. But what's an even more effective way to stoke division, animosity and destroy culture than racial identity politics? Start pushing sexual identity politics into everyone's face 24/7 while also promoting it to children. 

 

Then bring them together in the name of intersectionality with the new progress pride flag. You know, the one they flew at the White House in a position of prominence.  The black and brown stripes represent people of color. The light blue and pink represent the trans community, and are specifically called out as colors that are "traditionally associated with baby boys and baby girls"

 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/06/progress-pride-flag/

 

So there you have it,  racial grievance equity and trans pride, specifically making reference to baby boys and girls, all in one flag. Support it all fully and completely or you're a bigot.

 

This is all done by design. To demoralize you.

 

WHO doesn't want to wear the ribbon?

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

“All in all it’s just another brick in the wall. Hey…. teacher, leave the kids alone!”

[Westside]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

“All in all it’s just another brick in the wall. Hey…. teacher, leave the kids alone!”

If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding. Or go to the pride parade.

[JDHillFan]

46 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

you're nuts.  Absolutely, positively.  So what were the other people doing to "push it in your face"?  Were there actual sex acts involved?  Children?

 

No, I thought not.

 

concerning your own preferences, you should read the ancient greek play Lysistrata and maybe the Kama Sutra.  

Are you unfamiliar with hyperbole? Seems more likely you are going for the literal as a way to be disingenuous. If you are, in fact, new to hyperbole I am going to go out on a limb here and consider that he may have been referring to things like drag queen story hour for kids, inappropriate library materials at schools, offensive fake nuns, twerking at parades and the like. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

35 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Neo (social) Marxism.

 

The instigation of racial division has been apparent for awhile now and is a part of this as well. But what's an even more effective way to stoke division, animosity and destroy culture than racial identity politics? Start pushing sexual identity politics into everyone's face 24/7 while also promoting it to children. 

 

Then bring them together in the name of intersectionality with the new progress pride flag. You know, the one they flew at the White House in a position of prominence.  The black and brown stripes represent people of color. The light blue and pink represent the trans community, and are specifically called out as colors that are "traditionally associated with baby boys and baby girls"

 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/06/progress-pride-flag/

 

So there you have it,  racial grievance equity and trans pride, specifically making reference to baby boys and girls, all in one flag. Support it all fully and completely or you're a bigot.

 

This is all done by design. To demoralize you.

 

WHO doesn't want to wear the ribbon?

 

 

 

Do you think the Kama Sutra should be banned in Fla for Conservative, fundamentalist Christian adults?

Edited June 17, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Orlando Tim]

We as a nation 30 years ago would have vilified anyone who was trans but through knowledge came to a collective understanding that they are simply mentally ill people who need help, not to be tortured but helped to become the best version of themselves. Sometimes in the past 12 years we went insane and decided to celebrate mental illness, in many forms, and validate the mental illness. We are coming back to the point where we recognize these mindsets are not healthy, and should not be celebrated.

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Do you think the Kama Sutra should be band in Fla for Conservative, fundamentalist Christian adults?

In Latin, non sequitur means "it does not follow." The phrase was borrowed into English in the 1500s by people who made a formal study of logic. For them, it meant a conclusion that does not follow from the statements that lead to it.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, JDHillFan said:

In Latin, non sequitur means "it does not follow." The phrase was borrowed into English in the 1500s by people who made a formal study of logic. For them, it meant a conclusion that does not follow from the statements that lead to it.

so I'll bet you're familiar with Lysistrata.  Sex, politics, war and peace have forever been intermingled.  Never saw this on stage.  Not sure how they stage ll the men walking around with boners.  Viagra wasn't on the market back then.

 

[JDHillFan]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

so I'll bet you're familiar with Lysistrata.  Sex, politics, war and peace have forever been intermingled.  Never saw this on stage.  Not sure how they stage ll the men walking around with boners.  Viagra wasn't on the market back then.

 

All you have to add to your repertoire of replies is a few “why do you hate America”s and “you should move to Russia”s and you will become not necessarily a high-brow Tiberius, but a higher-brow Tiberius. 
 

I occasionally use Listerine but generally prefer something less medicine-y. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

All you have to add to your repertoire of replies is a few “why do you hate America”s and “you should move to Russia”s and you will become not necessarily a high-brow Tiberius, but a higher-brow Tiberius. 
 

I occasionally use Listerine but generally prefer something less medicine-y. 

See, we still disagree.  I like the toothpaste with breath freshening included!  Minty fresh and relaxing like menthol cigarettes.

Edited June 17, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillStime]

23 hours ago, Irv said:

pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.

You do realize the world revolves around straight people, right?

 

Every day is a straight parade.

 

Secure straight people don’t think twice about their identity. It is reinforced daily everywhere you go.

 

Imagine, at a very young age, you sense that you are different. Every day you realize that something is off. You probably cannot articulate it but you know something is up.

 

So how can a population comprising less than 3% be in your face AND influence children - when the predominate population is straight?

 

And what’s wrong with being LGTBQ? Why does their need to be a stigmatism about it?

 

Why does it have to be swept under the carpet? You realize that approach makes kids feel even worse, right?

 

And being LGTBQ is not a choice.

 

It is time for the insecure types to come to terms with their own sexuality and stop repressing it. If your pendulum swings one way or both ways a little or a lot - who the fk cares.

 

And you freaks wonder why those in the LGTBQ community have ridiculously high suicide rates.

 

If someone randomly came to PPP - they would think it is an anti LGTBQ hate club.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by BillStime

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

You do realize the world revolves around straight people, right?

 

Every day is a straight parade.

 

Secure straight people don’t think twice about their identity. It is reinforced every daily everywhere you go.

 

Imagine, at a very young age, you sense that you are different. Every day you realize that something is off. You probably cannot articulate it but you know something is up.

 

So how can a population comprising less than 3% be in your face AND influence children - when the predominate population is straight?

 

And what’s wrong with being LGTBQ? Why does their need to be a stigmatism about it?

 

Why does it have to be swept under the carpet? You realize that approach makes kids feel even worse, right?

 

And being LGTBQ is not a choice.

 

It is time for the insecure types to come to terms with their own sexuality and stop repressing it. If your pendulum swings one way or both ways a little or a lot - who the fk cares.

 

And you freaks wonder why those in the LGTBQ community have ridiculously high suicide rates.

 

If someone randomly came to PPP - they would think it is an anti LGTBQ hate club.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You were doing very well there (honestly) until you fell into the hate speech ditch. As I’m going to assume you know, the counter argument is that kids brains aren’t adult brains. That’s a scientific fact! All those you claim to be ‘freaks’ and ‘idiots’ are asking us that we allow kids to be kids, and not make, suggest, promote, or coerce life-long decisions on children who can’t think beyond next weekend. I have literally no idea why you see that position as harmful or hateful. I’m only guessing it’s because you don’t have any children. 
 

 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You were doing very well there (honestly) until you fell into the hate speech ditch. As I’m going to assume you know, the counter argument is that kids brains aren’t adult brains. That’s a scientific fact! All those you claim to be ‘freaks’ and ‘idiots’ are asking us that we allow kids to be kids, and not make, suggest, promote, or coerce life-long decisions on children who can’t think beyond next weekend. I have literally no idea why you see that position as harmful or hateful. I’m only guessing it’s because you don’t have any children. 
 

 

 

Is being LGTBQ a choice?

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Is being LGTBQ a choice?

 

 

I have no idea and neither do you. But I do know (and SCIENCE confirms) that elementary through middle school aged children’s minds aren’t developed enough to make decisions about their lifelong sexuality. 

[BillsFanNC]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have no idea and neither do you. But I do know (and SCIENCE confirms) that elementary through middle school aged children’s minds aren’t developed enough to make decisions about their lifelong sexuality. 

 

That there's even a debate over this tells you all you need to know about those who've brought us to the brink of the culture abyss.

[Wacka]

10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

. And the irony is if they keep on this path of normalizing drag too much they’ll have to up the ante with livestock or produce to get the attention they crave. 

You forgot picnic tables.

[BillStime]

26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have no idea and neither do you. But I do know (and SCIENCE confirms) that elementary through middle school aged children’s minds aren’t developed enough to make decisions about their lifelong sexuality. 

So more feelings  -  that’s all you got.

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

That there's even a debate over this tells you all you need to know about those who've brought us to the brink of the culture abyss.

And this freak couldn’t be happier spreading hate.

 

Karma is gonna suck for you

[BillStime]

32 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have no idea and neither do you. But I do know (and SCIENCE confirms) that elementary through middle school aged children’s minds aren’t developed enough to make decisions about their lifelong sexuality. 

Lastly - when did you decide to be straight?

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Lastly - when did you decide to be straight?

I have no idea. But when I was in elementary school I wanted to be a fire engine. A week later I wanted to be something else. 😉 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have no idea. But when I was in elementary school I wanted to be a fire engine. A week later I wanted to be something else. 😉 

Exactly - it never crossed your mind.

 

Now, imagine those kids who question and they see all this hate.

 

Imagine those kids going to the Dodgers game last night with all those programmed Catholics screaming their anti LGTBQ hate; while the priests abuse their sons and daughter.

 

You gotta love the @Irv types who think the gay will just go  away cuz he wants it swept under the rug for his own feelings.

 

Sad

 

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

Of course you’re crazy you’re a bills fan

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have no idea and neither do you. But I do know (and SCIENCE confirms) that elementary through middle school aged children’s minds aren’t developed enough to make decisions about their lifelong sexuality. 

So this is another area where I definitely slide a little bit more to center
 

I believe that whenever your children are having a problem with her identity, the first step is to seek counseling defined with the other possible issues could be

 

What you don’t want to do is alienate your kids whenever they’re trying to tell you something you have to listen and you can’t sit there and take your ideology and shove it on your kid that might work for a little while but eventually they’ll revolt. They’ll always love you, but you can seriously drive a stick between you and your kids. 

[Westside]

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You were doing very well there (honestly) until you fell into the hate speech ditch. As I’m going to assume you know, the counter argument is that kids brains aren’t adult brains. That’s a scientific fact! All those you claim to be ‘freaks’ and ‘idiots’ are asking us that we allow kids to be kids, and not make, suggest, promote, or coerce life-long decisions on children who can’t think beyond next weekend. I have literally no idea why you see that position as harmful or hateful. I’m only guessing it’s because you don’t have any children. 
 

 

Or he approves of pedos grooming little children.

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, Westside said:

Or he approves of pedos grooming little children.

Boy, they really do have you don’t they?

[JaCrispy]

18 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

No, you’re not nuts…

 

You just have to realize that it is a religion, in which the Woke HAVE to involve kids in order to have their next generation of foot soldiers…

 

They know that because of their gay or Trans lifestyle they won’t be able to pro create enough support for the cause, so they are coming for everyone else’s kids…

[BillsFanNC]

21 hours ago, Irv said:

Got into an argument with my wife and her uber liberal friend tonight. Full disclosure.  I have multiple friends and family who are gay and one who is transitioning.  I love them with all my heart.  What I don't like is the constant pushing it in your face and the attempt to influence kids.  Look.  I like to ***** my wife a certain way.  But I don't have a parade about it.   Am I wrong?  Fine.  Just don't involve kids.  We don't have Heterosexual Pride Parades.  These politicians are using everybody. ***** Joe Bribe'em. 

 

Expect a dumb answer from Tibs and Billsy.  Anybody have serious input?  This pisses me off.   

 

 

 

You know what's every bit as inappropriate as drag queen story hour at the local elementary school?

 

Stripper story hour with Foxy and Juicy from the Sundowner at the local elementary school.

 

It seems as though it's the LGBTQ community alone that is hellbent on exposing kids to this crap at any cost though.

 

It's about not sexualizing kids. In any way. By any sexual orientation.  Period.

 

Good luck getting any of our PPP marxists to understand that point of view though.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

21 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

you mean you and the wife don’t strap on

Not that there’d be anything wrong with that. I mean, if that’s what you’re into

[Orlando Tim]

11 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Is being LGTBQ a choice?

 

 

For some yes but why is gender dysphoria and species dysphoria treated so differently?