Phase 3 OTA’s start today

[BillsDad51]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

What does the remaining schedule look like before training camp?

 

Anymore OTA's left? Is there a mandatory mini camp still upcoming?

OTA's skedded June 5, 6 and 8. Mandatory minicamp June 13-15.

[HappyDays]

Just incredible.

[wppete]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Just incredible.

I don’t see Damar making the team. Unbelievable story, seems like a decent guy  but truth is below average player. Probably the best for all, people don’t want to see another scary health issue on the field again. 

[HappyDays]

 

[HappyDays]

 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

I don’t see Damar making the team. Unbelievable story, seems like a decent guy  but truth is below average player. Probably the best for all, people don’t want to see another scary health issue on the field again. 

Which safety will make the team over him?  Converted Benford?  Cam Lewis?  Zayne?

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

He’ll make the team regardless, but agree he is a below average player. 

Most 4th safeties are below average

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Which safety will make the team over him?  Converted Benford?  Cam Lewis?  Zayne?

Most 4th safeties are below average

Zayne could carve out a role on special teams. Benford is pretty much a lock to make the team due to his youth, versatility and low contract. 

 

That said, I could realistically see Hamlin in the mix to make this team. He was a young player getting his first real reps last year and I thought that his play was starting to get better as the season wore on. Putting aside all the health and mental wellness issues aside and talking his football play on the field...he's a guy that could improve. I think Marlowe and Lewis are odd guys out.

[The Frankish Reich]

On 5/22/2023 at 9:03 AM, BringBackFergy said:

He's obviously spending too much time on the golf course and not enough time learning the playbook.

Danger! Danger! Celebrity girlfriend. Russell Wilson. That's all I got.

[BADOLBILZ]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

 

If White, Poyer and Hyde all somehow return to form this season, Taron stays strong and Benford ascends the way he's being talked up..........would be HUUUUGE.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Zayne could carve out a role on special teams. Benford is pretty much a lock to make the team due to his youth, versatility and low contract. 

 

That said, I could realistically see Hamlin in the mix to make this team. He was a young player getting his first real reps last year and I thought that his play was starting to get better as the season wore on. Putting aside all the health and mental wellness issues aside and talking his football play on the field...he's a guy that could improve. I think Marlowe and Lewis are odd guys out.

I agree.  I expect Benford and Hamlin to make the team.  Benford @ corner and Hamlin @ S.

 

I think Alex Austin is the WC.  Between Tre, Kaiir, Taron, Dane and Benford, they’ll have a tough decision to make if Austin looks like a keeper.  Neal is likely going to make the team as the 6th CB/gunner.  

[Beck Water]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice.  Make Talley proud, Floyd!

Edited June 6, 2023 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

If White, Poyer and Hyde all somehow return to form this season, Taron stays strong and Benford ascends the way he's being talked up..........would be HUUUUGE.

 

Writing off Kaiir Elam?

[BuffaloBillyG]

46 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree.  I expect Benford and Hamlin to make the team.  Benford @ corner and Hamlin @ S.

 

I think Alex Austin is the WC.  Between Tre, Kaiir, Taron, Dane and Benford, they’ll have a tough decision to make if Austin looks like a keeper.  Neal is likely going to make the team as the 6th CB/gunner.  

Agree on Neal. He is a fantastic gunner. As much as I hate using spots on ST I believe they keep him. Just wish he was more useful when he has to fill in on defense. 

 

Though with the new rules on special teams I do wonder if the need for an outstanding gunner gets to be less of a priority. I would figure either way, they keep him for this season to see how much of an impact the FC rule has and if the new rule nullifies the need they move on next season. Cautious approach.

[eball]

3 hours ago, wppete said:

people don’t want to see another scary health issue on the field again. 

 

Pretty ignorant take.  Hamlin is no more susceptible to that condition reoccurring than you or I are.

 

[Logic]

3 hours ago, wppete said:

I don’t see Damar making the team. Unbelievable story, seems like a decent guy  but truth is below average player. Probably the best for all, people don’t want to see another scary health issue on the field again. 

You don't presume to speak for other people, do you?

If the notion of Damar Hamlin getting hurt again makes YOU uncomfortable, just say so. 


 

[HappyDays]

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 hours ago, wppete said:

I don’t see Damar making the team. Unbelievable story, seems like a decent guy  but truth is below average player. Probably the best for all, people don’t want to see another scary health issue on the field again. 

I can't find any info on if it happened once it increases the odds of it happening again but from what I can find it's more a a freak thing. Also Chris Pronger had a very similar thing happen in the NHL and he played the next game and 12 more years. 

[wppete]

8 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I can't find any info on if it happened once it increases the odds of it happening again but from what I can find it's more a a freak thing. Also Chris Pronger had a very similar thing happen in the NHL and he played the next game and 12 more years. 

Hopefully he is fully healthy and recovered when he returns with any team. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Writing off Kaiir Elam?

 

No just like what I am hearing about Benford.   Elam SHOULD be the starter based on pedigree........but if Benford beats him out despite Elam playing well that's a first world problem.

[Mr. WEO]

Are these 2 playas holding out on Phase III?

 

[pennstate10]

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

Pretty ignorant take.  Hamlin is no more susceptible to that condition reoccurring than you or I are.

 

 

I dont think that you can know that with any degree of confidence.

 

Hundreds of players get hit in the chest similarly hard every weekend during football season.

Yet they dont develop commotio cordis (presuming that is what he truly had) and cardiac arrest.  Commotio cordis is a "diagnosis of exclusion".  Meaning that the docs  eliminate all of the possible diagnosis that they can think of, and then say, well, its consistent with commotio cordis.

 

To my mind, it is certainly possibly that commotio cordis has a genetic component, and that some individuals are more susceptible than others.

 

Here are a couple references, in which well-known cardiologists and scientists suggest that there is a genetic predisposition to commotio cordis.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31179551/

 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circep.111.962712

 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.110.955336#:~:text=It is likely that genetic,in cardiac depolarization or repolarization.

 

Sure, it could be just bad luck.  But for such a rare condition in football players, you have to wonder if there was some unanticipated predisposition.  Its a tough call.  Football is Damar's livelihood, so the docs dont want to prevent him from returning to his profession.  But I'd best my last dollar that when/if the Bills medical staff clears him to return to full contact, the language clearing him doesnt say there is no risk of a recurrence. 

 

 

[Brand J]

Quote

The defensive line was in Allen’s face all afternoon and seemed to increase the intensity from the earlier open practices of OTAs.

Should we be encouraged/discouraged? 

[MasterStrategist]

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

If White, Poyer and Hyde all somehow return to form this season, Taron stays strong and Benford ascends the way he's being talked up..........would be HUUUUGE.

Great take!

 

Benford has been receiving alot of hype so far, the battle at CB#2 will be fun to watch.

 

Back to your point, that would be a top 5 secondary to go along with 4 pass rushers who I have alot of faith in (Von, Flo, Groot, and Ed).  Mix in Milano and others, and we finally have a SB caliber defense....just stay healthy this year 🙏!

[HappyDays]

We'll see what happens when the pads go on and he has to deal with NFL physicality, but I can't remember the last time I was this certain a Bills rookie would end up being great. He is just such a perfect fit with Allen's skill set. I really think they are going to be unstoppable together for the next decade.

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

We'll see what happens when the pads go on and he has to deal with NFL physicality, but I can't remember the last time I was this certain a Bills rookie would end up being great. He is just such a perfect fit with Allen's skill set. I really think they are going to be unstoppable together for the next decade.

“You should temper your expectations.  You’ll only end up blaming Dorsey if he doesn’t have a huge year.”  - some idiot

 

🤣

 

[PrimeTime101]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

“You should temper your expectations.  You’ll only end up blaming Dorsey if he doesn’t have a huge year.”  - some idiot

 

🤣

 

I swear to god. When I read out this i spit out my coffee all over the place.. Then got dirty looks people in the house. An inside joke no one else will ever get lol

 

I NEED MORE COFFEE! Damn U 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by PrimeTime101

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

“You should temper your expectations.  You’ll only end up blaming Dorsey if he doesn’t have a huge year.”  - some idiot

 

🤣

 

Here’s a question. Which offensive player had a down year last year? 
 

Allen - Same

Diggs - better

Davis - Slightly worse

Singletary - same

knox - same

McKenzie - career year

 

Kincaid is a legit 1st round talent. None of the players listed are 1st or 2nd rounders. 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[NewEra]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Here’s a question. Which offensive player had a down year last year? 
 

Allen - Same

Diggs - better

Davis - Slightly worse

Singletary - same

knox - same

McKenzie - career year

 

Kincaid is a legit 1st round talent. None of the players listed are 1st or 2nd rounders. 

 

 

 

It was an inside joke

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It was an inside joke

It was for the Dorsey complainers. They’re annoying.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It was for the Dorsey complainers. They’re annoying.

No, it was for the…..

 

Never mind.  No suspension for me.  

[Beck Water]

16 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I can't find any info on if it happened once it increases the odds of it happening again but from what I can find it's more a a freak thing. Also Chris Pronger had a very similar thing happen in the NHL and he played the next game and 12 more years. 

 

They seem to have settled on a diagnosis of commotio cordis

The thing is, it's such a rare occurrence that statistics about whether or not it's more likely to happen again are likely not very meaningful

 

As far as they know, it isn't more likely to happen again, but then again, most of the people to whom this has happened weren't playing tackle football

 

I think it's a bit of a long shot for Damar to make the team this season, not because I'm worried he's more likely to have an on field health issue than the other guy, but because I think it's very likely several of his ribs were broken and he had

aspiration pneumonia.  He would have had some muscle wasting while in the hospital, and his ability to work out would have been hindered for a couple months (they wouldn't have wanted him to really push himself until they figured out what was going on, also, he likely felt as though an elephant sat on his chest and his feet were injected with lead for a while.

 

He's always looked small for a football player to me, but he's also looked jacked.  Now he doesn't.  Trainers - I know there are a bunch of you here - how long does it take a guy who has nothing to do but work on himself to build strength?  How long to build aerobic capacity?

[John from Riverside]

The thing is, I would expect a tightend to look even better whenever the pads come on and allowed to use the physicality
 

Let’s keep in mind here we’re not talking about some frail wide receiver

[Solomon Grundy]

On 6/6/2023 at 3:18 PM, HappyDays said:

 

Considering he's defending another DB

On 6/6/2023 at 5:41 PM, HappyDays said:

 

Didn't Bernard look good in OTAs last season? 

[Don Otreply]

On 6/7/2023 at 9:34 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It was for the Dorsey complainers. They’re annoying.

Funny coincidence, so was Dorsey, 😁👍

 

And I believe Dorsey has potential,