WR Trent Sherfield signed

[BillzFreak]

25 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Kind of reminds me of Gabe with hands

This probably means the end of Kumerow who will most likely hook up with Aaron Rogers in NY

 

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Sounds kinky

[Scott7975]

Yay another special, special teamer. I knew we wouldn’t be big players in FA but can we get Josh some real help?

[appoo]

Adds versatility, which is what you want from WRs 4 - 6. 

 

Dorsey has a lot of different of ways to deploy his weapons between the TEs and now various WR types that are legit NFL players. 

[Alphadawg7]

38 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

C'mon Man.  KC has a 1A+ receiver.  His name is Travis Kelce, and he was 3rd in the league for receptions, 8th for yards, and had the highest catch % of receivers with the top 10 yards.

 

You don't get to discount him just because he's a TE and not a WR.  So yes, KC had a 1B or at least a #2 WR with Juju S-S.

 

I don't know if generically a team needs to have a 1B or even a strong #2 at WR, but when they have as little run game as the Bills have, they'd better have a bit more at WR than the Bills had last season, or 1A is gonna get locked in a vault.  Where, BTW, Kelce apparently can not be placed because of his size and physicality.

Weak argument.  And JuJu is not a 1B by any means, so your point on Kelce is totally irrelevant to the posters comment I responded to asking why don’t we get to have a 1B WR.  KC just won the SB without a 1B WR as they absolutely do not have a 1B WR on that team to Kelce.  JuJu is a decent #2 WR but he stinks as a WR1 and has proven that on the field.  

[RoyBatty is alive]

3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

This is actually a very good signing, as long as...wait for it...HE GETS OPPORTUNITIES!   

 

I know this staff is tempted to just have him on the ST unit.  

 

I like this signing a lot.

Finally someone with a value added comment instead of the unimaginative, typical and sarcastic comments.  No one yet has gone to demonstrate their "creativity" by writing "SUPER BOWL".

Edited March 20, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive

[Success]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

Yay another special, special teamer. I knew we wouldn’t be big players in FA but can we get Josh some real help?

 

Speed, YAC, good hands, physical - he'll play on offense.  He was in a pretty crowded WR room in Miami, and their fans are still bummed to see him go.

 

I'm gonna guess that this is the kind of player JA bring the most out of.  I won't say make him a "star," because he won't be that, but I think he could excel in our offense given the skillset.

 

I think this is a great pick-up.

 

[Dunkirk Donski]

2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Finally someone with someone with a value added comment instead of the unimaginative, typical and sarcastic comments.  No one yet has gone to demonstrate their "creativity" by writing "SUPER BOWL".

"someone with someone"? - seems rather redundant...

[Scott7975]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Speed, YAC, good hands, physical - he'll play on offense.  He was in a pretty crowded WR room in Miami, and their fans are still bummed to see him go.

 

I'm gonna guess that this is the kind of player JA bring the most out of.  I won't say make him a "star," because he won't be that, but I think he could excel in our offense given the skillset.

 

I think this is a great pick-up.

 

I’m not that optimistic but we shall see

[nosejob]

43 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:

Wait and see.  He might be a very good signing.  

I listened to his interview with Brown and Tasker and I def. agree. I'm fine with it.

[BananaB]

13 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Speed, YAC, good hands, physical - he'll play on offense.  He was in a pretty crowded WR room in Miami, and their fans are still bummed to see him go.

 

I'm gonna guess that this is the kind of player JA bring the most out of.  I won't say make him a "star," because he won't be that, but I think he could excel in our offense given the skillset.

 

I think this is a great pick-up.

 

He’s been 3 WR rooms in  3 years and you think Miamis WRs were holding him back? I think it’s more like opening a few opportunities for him. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by BananaB

[Don Otreply]

32 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Fortunately, you are not our QB1

 

C'mon man - having a petulant snit about a WR signed to compete at the bottom of the roster, and one who actually did contribute for the Dolphins last year?

You don’t get to use the word “snit” on a football forum very often, well done, and well applied if I do say do myself, 👍

[folz]

44 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I like how he told Maddy that he can play both inside out outside.  I keep going back to having multiple players moving into the slot

position all game long versus having one guy nailed to it.  Puts a lot more pressure on that NCB in my mind.

 

Yes, thank you. Was going to post something similar.

 

The problem with the offense last year (besides Josh's elbow), was not Gabe Davis; it was not having any consistent play from the slot position and a burner to take the top off the defense. From 2019 to 2021, Cole averaged 813 yards from the slot position (it's also why they tried to bring him back for the playoff run last year---cause we were in trouble in the slot). Last year, we got 483 yards total from the slot (between Crowder and McKenzie). That's 40% less production from that spot. This offense needs consistent production from the slot to run properly.

 

Also, I don't think people realize that it wasn't just Diggs who got double-teamed last year. Davis also saw a lot of double-teaming because defenses were not afraid of our slot position or the run game.

 

Of course, Crowder was supposed to help there (and probably be the #1 slot). But once he went down, we were in trouble. Isaiah could get some wins in the slot playing against man, but he didn't have the "feel" for the slot against zone. So, teams bracketed Diggs and Davis and said try to beat us with what you have left.

 

So, I see the current signings as many-layered. First, they are making sure they have multiple guys who can play the slot (to couch versus injuries---they aren't going to be left high and dry again); two, they got guys who aren't going to just make the short grab and go down, these players have speed and RAC to take slants to the house (or at least get more yards out of those throws---see K.C., Miami, etc.); and thirdly, as Colorado said, we now have 4 of our top 5 current WRs that can play both inside and outside (Diggs, Shakir, Harty, and Sherfield). This makes the offense a lot less predictable and gives Dorsey a lot more options to scheme and play.

 

Not to mention that Harty and Sherfield are both big ST contributors. It is all about depth and maximizing every roster spot at this point---to get over that final hump. Plus, as others said, it frees up Hines and other players to focus on where we need them most. And Harty can take the top off the defense with his speed. Diggs and Gabe can both get deep, but they don't have that burner speed that really puts stress on opposing safeties. It was another dimension that we were missing last year.

If you have Harty flying down the field (and hitting on some chunk plays), it is going to be a lot harder to bracket both Diggs and Davis. McKenzie was fast, but fly routes were not really in his bag (due to hands/tracking the ball, whatever).

 

We don't need to spend a lot of money on WRs that are at the end of their careers (OBJ/Hopkins)---diminishing returns and steals money from other areas of need. We can draft a young guy (in case they move on from Gabe next year), and groom him for at least a year (unless they get lucky and the kid is a stud from the get---but tough to count on that where we are drafting). But, still, I am fine using a premium pick on a young WR.

 

But, I also see how these current moves are actually addressing problem areas from last season. Sometimes you don't need the shiny new toy (that breaks a week later) on Christmas morning---you need that pair of socks that will keep your feet warm all winter.* It may not be sexy, or what you wanted, but it may turn out to be what you actually needed more.

 

But, as always, we will have to wait and see if these moves pan out. I do seem to get their thought process though.

 

 

*(idea poached from House's funny post about underwear on Christmas, just changed it to socks)

[nosejob]

17 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Speed, YAC, good hands, physical - he'll play on offense.  He was in a pretty crowded WR room in Miami, and their fans are still bummed to see him go.

 

I'm gonna guess that this is the kind of player JA bring the most out of.  I won't say make him a "star," because he won't be that, but I think he could excel in our offense given the skillset.

 

I think this is a great pick-up.

 

And he sounds like a great guy whose gonna give 150%. I heard his interview.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Beast said:

When you’re broke you shop at the Dollar General. 🤷🏼

 

Seriously. Embarrassing. 

 

 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

That list certainly isn’t going to cut it. Josh deserves better 

Ideally I would like it if the team trades for a legit WR or drafts a WR at pick 27. Then at picks 59 and 91 they can go Oline. Add some defensive depth in the mid to late rounds, spend the premium picks solidifying the talent around Josh.

[BillsVet]

2 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

Absolutely not.  He’s a fairly big upgrade over Kumerow.  He’s a lock to make the roster 

 

Upgrading WR4-5 is not a major impact to the offensive talent.  

 

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I always kind of wish it was a 2 year deal, just in case he comes in and is great but seems like a solid signing

 

Bills liked him so much they gave him a 1 year deal.  Not a ringing endorsement.  

 

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

He was actually one of the most productive receivers for the dolphins down the stretch. I love it. 

 

Games 12-16: 9 receptions for 137 yards, 0 TD's, 16 targets.  Not active in Week 17; took 48 offensive snaps in playoff game at Buffalo - 0 targets.    

 

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

It's funny.  I have no concerns about Davis.  I think he's almost a model #2.  I think it's all about Dorsey.   

 

I've never been impressed with Jeudy, as I've said elsewhere I don't think it makes sense to add a personality like Hopkins to the receiver room, and I feel the same about Beckham, plus his injury concern.  I'd much rather spend resources elsewhere, namely the offensive line and middle linebacker.  

 

Hopefully this season Dorsey will give Davis the ability to separate, run more than 2-3 patterns, and make contested catches.   

[wppete]

After watching video and highlights and reading up on him I really like this signing. WR with speed who is a special teams ace. 

[NewEra]

48 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don't follow college football enough to have an opinion on the WR in the draft that's worth the powder it'd take to blow it to hell.

 

I do follow "draftology" enough to know that the chances of getting a player who can contribute in Year 1 are better in the 1st and 2nd round, slide some in the 3rd, and that day 3 guys, if they do contribute, typically take a couple years to find their feet.

 

I also have pretty good respect for Greg Cosell and if he names 2 WR he thinks can contribute their 1st years and believes at least 1 will be available where the Bills pick, to me that's worth listening to.

I agree with all of this. 
 

I haven’t listened to cosell since the combine.  Did he mention any SR in particular @ 27?

 

imo- addison, Johnston and JSN are the only guys that would be worthy of our 1st rd pick.  Flowers and Hyatt, not worthy but I’d be excited about adding to the offense.  Josh has the ability to turn them into stars.  

[Warcodered]

 

[somnus00]

17 minutes ago, folz said:

 

Yes, thank you. Was going to post something similar.

 

The problem with the offense last year (besides Josh's elbow), was not Gabe Davis; it was not having any consistent play from the slot position and a burner to take the top off the defense. From 2019 to 2021, Cole averaged 813 yards from the slot position (it's also why they tried to bring him back for the playoff run last year---cause we were in trouble in the slot). Last year, we got 483 yards total from the slot (between Crowder and McKenzie). That's 40% less production from that spot. This offense needs consistent production from the slot to run properly.

 

Also, I don't think people realize that it wasn't just Diggs who got double-teamed last year. Davis also saw a lot of double-teaming because defenses were not afraid of our slot position or the run game.

 

Of course, Crowder was supposed to help there (and probably be the #1 slot). But once he went down, we were in trouble. Isaiah could get some wins in the slot playing against man, but he didn't have the "feel" for the slot against zone. So, teams bracketed Diggs and Davis and said try to beat us with what you have left.

 

So, I see the current signings as many-layered. First, they are making sure they have multiple guys who can play the slot (to couch versus injuries---they aren't going to be left high and dry again); two, they got guys who aren't going to just make the short grab and go down, these players have speed and RAC to take slants to the house (or at least get more yards out of those throws---see K.C., Miami, etc.); and thirdly, as Colorado said, we now have 4 of our top 5 current WRs that can play both inside and outside (Diggs, Shakir, Harty, and Sherfield). This makes the offense a lot less predictable and gives Dorsey a lot more options to scheme and play.

 

Not to mention that Harty and Sherfield are both big ST contributors. It is all about depth and maximizing every roster spot at this point---to get over that final hump. Plus, as others said, it frees up Hines and other players to focus on where we need them most. And Harty can take the top off the defense with his speed. Diggs and Gabe can both get deep, but they don't have that burner speed that really puts stress on opposing safeties. It was another dimension that we were missing last year.

If you have Harty flying down the field (and hitting on some chunk plays), it is going to be a lot harder to bracket both Diggs and Davis. McKenzie was fast, but fly routes were not really in his bag (due to hands/tracking the ball, whatever).

 

We don't need to spend a lot of money on WRs that are at the end of their careers (OBJ/Hopkins)---diminishing returns and steals money from other areas of need. We can draft a young guy (in case they move on from Gabe next year), and groom him for at least a year (unless they get lucky and the kid is a stud from the get---but tough to count on that where we are drafting). But, still, I am fine using a premium pick on a young WR.

 

But, I also see how these current moves are actually addressing problem areas from last season. Sometimes you don't need the shiny new toy (that breaks a week later) on Christmas morning---you need that pair of socks that will keep your feet warm all winter.* It may not be sexy, or what you wanted, but it may turn out to be what you actually needed more.

 

But, as always, we will have to wait and see if these moves pan out. I do seem to get their thought process though.

 

 

*(idea poached from House's funny post about underwear on Christmas, just changed it to socks)

Terrific, level-headed comment.