Potential decision made for Championship Game location

[ngbills]

Charlotte

[Captain Caveman]

Can we get this thread title updated, it's a bit misleading and I keep forgetting and checking to see where the game is going to be played.

[Mango]

8 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Q: ask Josh under oath if he could hit Brown or Diggs yesterday with 10-20 mph breeze?
A: Nope.  

 

I think part of the frustration with Josh some weeks is that regardless of situation or weather, he thinks he can get the ball to his guy and his guy can make a play, regardless of probability. 

 

Josh 100% believes he can hit a guy in 10-20mph winds down the sideline. 

[AuntieEm]

On 1/6/2023 at 2:24 AM, CorkScrewHill said:

I am surprised there is no mention of a scenario where if the Bills play the Bengals in the divisional round that there would be a coin flip for that since the Bengals would be the 2 seed if they beat the Ravens and if they had defeated the Bills. In the scenarios laid out the Bills are treated favorably.

 

   Wonder if the nfl would be ok if cincis owners and pegulas decided to just go ahead and flip a coin if that situation occurred.

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   Wonder if the nfl would be ok if cincis owners and pegulas decided to just go ahead and flip a coin if that situation occurred.

Ummm…not a snowballs chance in hell of this happening. 

[Mafioso]

On 1/6/2023 at 10:38 PM, HerdMentality said:

I was on Page 1 here suggesting a college stadium.. Happy Valley or Ann Arbour. ( I might accept Notre Dame)

 

Anybody here remember the NHL Winter Classic at Michigan Stadium?? Big crowd and special atmosphere!! Could be even bigger!!

 

 

 

Most college stadiums don't meet NFL standards.  When the Vikings stadium was being built, they temporary played at TCF Bank Stadium (where the Minnesota Golden Gophers play).  Despite being a very new stadium (TCF Bank Stadium was built in 2009), the NFL required all sorts of upgrades to the stadium (heaters under the artificial turf, etc) in order to allow that stadium to be the temporary home of the Vikings.  University of Michigan and Notre Dame both have artificial turf and I doubt they are equipped to be a safe playing surface in late January / February.   Happy Valley is a fun place but it is miserable to get there in the winter...two lane winding roads and only a small airport in town.  It's in the middle of nowhere.  

Edited January 9, 2023 by Mafioso

[Boatdrinks]

14 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   Wonder if the nfl would be ok if cincis owners and pegulas decided to just go ahead and flip a coin if that situation occurred.

I don’t think the Bills and Bengals can meet in an AFCC game with the seeding as it is. Divisional round only , and it will be played in OP if it happens. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[AuntieEm]

28 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I don’t think the Bills and Bengals can meet in an AFCC game with the seeding as it is. Divisional round only , and it will be played in OP if it happens. 

 

  That works for me.  I didn't go thru all the different seeding possibilities because I really don't care if they win as 1 seed or backdoor wc to win SB.  

 

   I also consider the Bills to be the best team whether they win the SB or not.  I certainly felt they were the best team in last years playoffs and there's a large number of nfl fans from across team fanbases that would hold that same opinion if they watched all playoff games.  

 

 

[Billz4ever]

53 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   Wonder if the nfl would be ok if cincis owners and pegulas decided to just go ahead and flip a coin if that situation occurred.

I think it would be rough for the Bills to go back to that stadium again and I'm glad we aren't this season.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Pittsburgh!

 

I am in NO WAY biased in choosing Acridsure stadium (misspelling wholly intentional)

[LABILLBACKER]

2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I think it would be rough for the Bills to go back to that stadium again and I'm glad we aren't this season.

Don't be surprised if the NFL Thursday season opener is us in Cincy.  Kind of an easy prediction. 

[BillsFanSD]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Don't be surprised if the NFL Thursday season opener is us in Cincy.  Kind of an easy prediction. 

Impossible.  We'll be at home that week.

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Pittsburgh!

 

I am in NO WAY biased in choosing Acridsure stadium (misspelling wholly intentional)

I understand there really was no 100% correct answer to this messy playoff seeding, but I don't like it.  The Bills were in the driver's seat and were the only team that controlled their own destiny.  Through no fault of the Bills, the league giftwraps KC the bye.  That still doesn't sit well with me.  

Edited January 9, 2023 by Billz4ever

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

I understand there really was no 100% correct answer to this messy playoff seeding, but I don't like it.  The Bills were in the driver's seat and were the only team that controlled their own destiny.  Through no fault of their own, the league giftwraps KC the bye.  That still doesn't sit well with me.  

 

My ONLY problem with the whole plan was that KC benefits from it... IN NO WAY should that have happened.

[Captain Caveman]

26 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

My ONLY problem with the whole plan was that KC benefits from it... IN NO WAY should that have happened.

KC also lost the possibility of hosting the AFC Championship game, which they would have done if we had lost to Cinci (certainly a possibility) and which should have happened according to the rules that were in place.  Buffalo, KC and Cinci can all feel like they lost something with the solution that was implemented, which to me indicates it's about as fair as it could have been.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Captain Caveman

[Billz4ever]

29 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

My ONLY problem with the whole plan was that KC benefits from it... IN NO WAY should that have happened.

Nope, especially when they lost to the Bills.  All they had to do was beat a non-playoff team who had a new QB and they get rewarded with a bye.  Ridiculous.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Billz4ever

[Dan]

7 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I think it would be rough for the Bills to go back to that stadium again and I'm glad we aren't this season.

That was the only reason I really wanted us to win yesterday.  The idea of going back to cinci in 2 weeks was not a pleasant thought. 
 

 

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

I understand there really was no 100% correct answer to this messy playoff seeding, but I don't like it.  The Bills were in the driver's seat and were the only team that controlled their own destiny.  Through no fault of their own, the league giftwraps KC the bye.  That still doesn't sit well with me.  

True.  But everyone with this sentiment just needs to get over It. We played one less game. Yeah, the circumstances were terrible, but no one wanted to finish that game, and cramming it in was senseless. We lost control of our own destiny when we cancelled that game.   It sucks, but thats the way it goes.  
 

We still ended up #2 and don’t play in Cinci or KC again this year. Considering the circumstances, I think we came out as well as can be expected.    
 

Had the Bengals forced the isseue, i would have been in favor of forfeiting the game all together and settle for the 3seed.  Luckily they acted with class and care. 

[Billz4ever]

Just now, Captain Caveman said:

KC also lost the possibility of hosting the AFC Championship game, which they would have done if we had lost to Cinci (Certainly) and which should have happened according to the rules that were in place.  Buffalo, KC and Cinci can all feel like they lost something with the solution that was implemented, which to me indicates it's about as fair as it could have been.

Only having to win 2 games instead of 3 is a big difference.

 

Given that the Bills were the ones in the driver's seat for the #1 seed going into that game, I think the option of homefield or the bye should've been given to the Bills.

 

The Bills controlled their own Destiny and have never lost since.

 

 

Just now, Dan said:

That was the only reason I really wanted us to win yesterday.  The idea of going back to cinci in 2 weeks was not a pleasant thought. 
 

 

True.  But everyone with this sentiment just needs to get over It. We played one less game. Yeah, the circumstances were terrible, but no one wanted to finish that game, and cramming it in was senseless. We lost control of our own destiny when we cancelled that game.   It sucks, but thats the way it goes.  
 

We still ended up #2 and don’t play in Cinci or KC again this year. Considering the circumstances, I think we came out as well as can be expected.    
 

Had the Bengals forced the isseue, i would have been in favor of forfeiting the game all together and settle for the 3seed.  Luckily they acted with class and care. 

But we didn't cancel the game, the league did.  For us to have lost the #1 seed, we should've been made to forfeit. At least then it was the Bills' decision.

 

For the league to both cancel the game and then give KC the bye is a foul, IMO.

[Captain Caveman]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

Only having to win 2 games instead of 3 is a big difference.

 

Given that the Bills were the ones in the driver's seat for the #1 seed going into that game, I think the option of homefield or the bye should've been given to the Bills.

 

The Bills controlled their own Destiny and have never lost since.

 

 

 

The Bills also made the decision to not play the deciding game.  Of course I'm not advocating they should have done anything differently.

 

But I do think the solution they implemented is as about as fair as it could have been.

[Dan]

3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Only having to win 2 games instead of 3 is a big difference.

 

Given that the Bills were the ones in the driver's seat for the #1 seed going into that game, I think the option of homefield or the bye should've been given to the Bills.

 

The Bills controlled their own Destiny and have never lost since.

 

 

But we didn't cancel the game, the league did.  For us to have lost the #1 seed, we should've been made to forfeit. At least then it was the Bills' decision.

 

For the league to both cancel the game and then give KC the bye is a foul, IMO.

Do you think the league didn’t ask the Bills and Bengals if they wanted to play that game?     If the Bills wanted to play it, I’m certain it would not have been canceled. 

[Captain Caveman]

4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

But we didn't cancel the game, the league did.  For us to have lost the #1 seed, we should've been made to forfeit. At least then it was the Bills' decision.

 

 

 

I think we had a lot more input into the decision to cancel the game than has necessarily been reported.  

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

KC also lost the possibility of hosting the AFC Championship game, which they would have done if we had lost to Cinci (Certainly) and which should have happened according to the rules that were in place.  Buffalo, KC and Cinci can all feel like they lost something with the solution that was implemented, which to me indicates it's about as fair as it could have been.

 

KC only lost the possibility of hosting versus the Bills.  If it's any other team, they are hosting it(if they make it).

[Billz4ever]

6 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

The Bills also made the decision to not play the deciding game.  Of course I'm not advocating they should have done anything differently.

 

But I do think the solution they implemented is as about as fair as it could have been.

Where was it noted the Bills never wanted to make it up at a later date? It obviously was not going to happen that night.  I thought it was soley the league's decision that it was never going to be resumed.

 

Of course had you asked the Bills that night or even the next day, they probably would've said they don't want to play a game for the rest of the season.

 

It just felt like to me the Bills were being penalized for circumstances that were beyond anyone's control.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Billz4ever

[Captain Caveman]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

KC only lost the possibility of hosting versus the Bills.  If it's any other team, they are hosting it(if they make it).

 

Which would also have happened regardless of the outcome of the Bills / Cinci game with the way the rest of the season played out.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Which would also have happened regardless of the outcome of the Bills / Cinci game with the way the rest of the season played out.

 

Uhh...no.  The Bills controlled their own destiny for the 1 seed. If they would have won in Cincy, they would have been the 1 seed due to head to head victory over KC.

[Captain Caveman]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Uhh...no.  The Bills controlled their own destiny for the 1 seed. If they would have won in Cincy, they would have been the 1 seed due to head to head victory over KC.

 

You said vs any other team, yeah, obviously the outcome would have been different had the Bills played and won that game.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Nope, especially when they lost to the Bills.  All they had to do was beat a non-playoff team with a new QB and get rewarded with a bye.  Ridiculous.

 

ESPECIALLY since they instituted a coin flip for the Ravens/Bengals if needed.

 

Where was OUR coin flip for the bye? We beat them head to head at KC!!!

Edited January 9, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Greg S]

If it is BUF vs KC in the AFCCG then I hope, they select MetLife.  A 20-minute drive for me and I would definitely be there.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

If it is BUF vs KC in the AFCCG then I hope, they select MetLife.  A 20-minute drive for me and I would definitely be there.

 

I'm 30 minutes from Acridsure in Pittsburgh, so I am most certainly biased, hence my joke!

Edited January 9, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

I think the main rationale for cancelling the game was two-fold:

1. The only way to play it would have been to eliminate the week off between championships and Super Bowl.  This would create a week 19 and make Buffalo/Cincy the only game being played giving every other team a week off - basically putting Bills & Bengals at a competitive disadvantage.  It also would affect all playoff teams and they wanted to reduce the scope of disruption
2. The outcome of the game had no impact on who was gonna make the playoffs, only on how the top 3 seeds would end up.

Did it end up benefitting KC more than anyone else?  Yeah.

 

Rumor heard at the game - neutral site game could be played in Ann Arbor.  Biggest stadium in the country.

Edited January 9, 2023 by JÂy RÛßeÒ

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I'm 30 minutes from Acridsure in Pittsburgh, so I am most certainly biased, hence my joke!

 Same. My selection is also biased. Never happen though as it would end being a Bills home game from a crowd standpoint. KC would have a right to complain.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 Same. My selection is also biased. Never happen though as it would end being a Bills home game from a crowd standpoint. KC would have a right to complain.

 

No doubt... Indy would have been the perfect equidistant place but of course that fell through. I'm ready to buy a ticket if they play in Pittsburgh or Cleveland.

[Boatdrinks]

Hoping to hear some new information on this soon. They’re not going to wait until the divisional round to name the location ; at least I don’t think they would. From a Buffalo perspective I’d prefer Charlotte or MIA/ ATL. Easy flight from BUF and weather won’t or shouldn’t impact the game. 

[StHustle]

I look at the Cincy game as our bye week. No point in crying over spilled milk at this point. Maybe a first round bye would have hurt us. I believe everything happens for a reason. I believe the SB victory is our destiny!

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

2 minutes ago, StHustle said:

I look at the Cincy game as our bye week. No point in crying over spilled milk at this point. Maybe a first round bye would have hurt us. I believe everything happens for a reason. I believe the SB victory is our destiny!

You make a good point.  I don't recall the Bills cranking on all cylinders after a bye the last few years.  Just my recollection though, I could be wrong. 

[Boatdrinks]

28 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Where was it noted the Bills never wanted to make it up at a later date? It obviously was not going to happen that night.  I thought it was soley the league's decision that it was never going to be resumed.

 

Of course had you asked the Bills that night or even the next day, they probably would've said they don't want to play a game for the rest of the season.

 

It just felt like to me the Bills were being penalized for circumstances that were beyond anyone's control.

The NFL likely consulted with the Bills about making up the game. They determined to move on with the playoffs as a scheduled. We won’t know , but we do know they were prepared to forfeit. They won’t get a bye , but at that point they hadn’t earned it. They did okay one less game than KC at the end of the season , so it’s not completely different than getting a bye a week before the Chiefs. A neutral site championship is an enormous accommodation to the Bills circumstances and seems a fair compromise to me. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Haha pretty misleading thread title. Doesn't seem like any potential decision has been made. 

 

It's kind of annoying that there hasn't been. I'm trying to make potential plans in case that game happens and obviously there's no way to without a location. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by HomeskillitMoorman

[Billz4ever]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The NFL likely consulted with the Bills about making up the game. They determined to move on with the playoffs as a scheduled. We won’t know , but we do know they were prepared to forfeit. They won’t get a bye , but at that point they hadn’t earned it. They did okay one less game than KC at the end of the season , so it’s not completely different than getting a bye a week before the Chiefs. A neutral site championship is an enormous accommodation to the Bills circumstances and seems a fair compromise to me. 

Neutral site is way overrated IMO.  Especially if we're talking about playing KC, who's averaging an entire touchdown more on the road than at home.

 

Having to play 1 less game on the road to the SB is huge.

[mannc]

8 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Neutral site is way overrated IMO.  Especially if we're talking about playing KC, who's averaging an entire touchdown more on the road than at home.

 

Having to play 1 less game on the road to the SB is huge.

The Bills and Bengals played 7/8ths of a game less, so... 

[Boatdrinks]

41 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Neutral site is way overrated IMO.  Especially if we're talking about playing KC, who's averaging an entire touchdown more on the road than at home.

 

Having to play 1 less game on the road to the SB is huge.

Disagree, regardless of their numbers- too affected by the vagaries of the home/ away schedule. I don’t think you can underestimate the difference between a neutral site AFCC vs a trip to Arrowhead for the Bills. Don’t forget the Bills played 1 less game than the Chiefs.