SCBills Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 A 2nd RD Pick and Singletary isn't outlandish for CMC, but I'd only do it if we have new framework for a multi-year contract lined up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I don't even think adding CMC makes a noticeable difference in the Bills production in their running game. The Oline is not built for a running attack. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: I don't even think adding CMC makes a noticeable difference in the Bills production in their running game. The Oline is not built for a running attack. We are a passing offense, so it makes sense to have elite receiving backs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: We are a passing offense, so it makes sense to have elite receiving backs. Wasn't that supposed to be Cook? It would come down to cost for me....If the P's wat a 1st or a 2nd....I say no way. But thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 One thing to keep in mind is Singletary is in the last year of his contract, so he will likely either 1. walk next year for nothing in return or 2. cost us at least $5M/year to re-sign. Given that, trading him and a pick (even a 2nd, which I dont love) for CMC and a contract extension that gives him 2/$15M, $10M guaranteed... I think I'd rather have CMC than Singletary. Additionally, CMC can tutor Cook like Miller and the young DEs. I know that Cook and Singletary go way back and have been training together for a while, but I dont think Devin really brings all that much vet experience to the table. So if we are going to spend $5M/year on our RB1 the next couple of years, and can choose between CMC and Singletary... I think I lean CMC. Even with the cost of a 2nd (which will be the 63rd pick and pretty much a 3rd). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: I don't even think adding CMC makes a noticeable difference in the Bills production in their running game. The Oline is not built for a running attack. Unfortunately this is true also. Maybe CMC can make more out of the little holes created than Singletary can? Our OL is just so incredibly bad at run blocking. But I also don't want to see Josh get hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I don’t see devin being traded. Josh loves him and he would prolly be pretty po’ed if that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'm not quite sure where I stand with trading for CMC. A 2nd and Singletary does seem a little steep for a guy that's had recent bad luck with injuries, and subsequently coming to a team that's had bad luck recently with injuries. I'm surprised no one has said our 2nd and Singletary for CMC and Blackshear. The temptation outside of CMC's skillset is the fact we can let him go with no cap hit at the end of the year. I'm really hoping we don't go for both CMC and OBJ. The pressure to deliver a SB win would be crazy if we get them both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I'm not quite sure where I stand with trading for CMC. A 2nd and Singletary does seem a little steep for a guy that's had recent bad luck with injuries, and subsequently coming to a team that's had bad luck recently with injuries. I'm surprised no one has said our 2nd and Singletary for CMC and Blackshear. The temptation outside of CMC's skillset is the fact we can let him go with no cap hit at the end of the year. I'm really hoping we don't go for both CMC and OBJ. The pressure to deliver a SB win would be crazy if we get them both 2nd and Singletary is steep? You don't want the pressure to deliver a SB? Woe is me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 They aren't trading Singletary i would put a lot of $$ on that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: I don’t see devin being traded. Josh loves him and he would prolly be pretty po’ed if that happened. He loves him and he's helping him get the best 2nd contract possible. I'm sure he knows that may not be with the Bills, but Josh keeps many friends around the league who are not Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said: Singletary and a 6th for CMC? Do you have any idea how entirely unrealistic and insane this is? Maybe the Panthers will offer us Baker Mayield and a 3rd rounder for Josh Allen 🤣 I would skip adding Singletary and just trade the pick and have him as a rental for rest of year, no interest in long term with CMC. I think signing OBJ at a team friendly, balance of 2022 contract is the way to go. No picks needed and no $$ next year either. SB baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: He loves him and he's helping him get the best 2nd contract possible. I'm sure he knows that may not be with the Bills, but Josh keeps many friends around the league who are not Bills. Yeah but you’re potentially disrupting team chemistry in doing so. If we ended up with cmc ok great but singletary is pretty durable which cmc hasn’t been. I just don’t see devin being moved in season at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: CMC is a 5th Round for me...nothing else. If it's Moore and CMC then Moss and a 4th is fine...but, we have WRs for the long-term. We need a rental WR for depth, a rental Safety for depth due to Hyde, and then an upgrade at RB - not a long term solution at RB because I think Cook is the man for the future. IMHO, we don't spend capital on a RB who is on the down slope of his career at a position that is quite replaceable and shouldn't require significant cost. The reason i think the rumors are likely somewhat BS? When we initially explored the CMC trade, we didn't have Cook. Now we do - it kind of changes how much I'm willing to offer for a running back when i drafted a pass catching running back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: They aren't trading Singletary i would put a lot of $$ on that So long Devin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: We don't have singleterry locked up after this year - but there is no way i am trading him and a 2nd. i'd consider mcaffery for a 6th w/singleterry. singleterry is the process. cmc is glass. robbie anderson is a solid player but i like DJ moore more. also like that tackle down here who's name escapes me. I would 100% trade a 2nd and Devin for CMC, even if its a 1 year rental. Devin walking anyway, plus maybe he will get me more points in fantasy if he went to a team that actually used him. But there is no denying, CMC is a game changer player. We got a serious shot at the SB right now, I have no objection to one all in move here to do everything possible to get us over the top for that Lombardi trophy this year. If we had recently won a SB, or had a bunch of SB wins under the belt...I would be less inclined for an all in move with how well we are playing. But damn, not only do I want to get there, I sure as heck don't wanna lose again if we get to the big dance. And having another elite player on the roster helps hedge against unforeseen things like injuries to other key weapons. So...while I am not convinced it happens...I would do this trade to make a major uptick in our SB victory odds. And I am usually against all in moves...unless you clearly have a STRONG path to the SB already like we do. Edited October 12, 2022 by Alphadawg7 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: 2nd and Singletary is steep? You don't want the pressure to deliver a SB? Woe is me.... The Bills were already favored before the season started, and then you add 2 playmakers just 5 weeks in to the season. And yes, a 2nd alone for a oft injured RB is a bit steep, then Singletary drives it up even further. If CMC doesn't pan out, then what happens next season? We still don't know what we have in Cook and we already know Moss is inconsistent at best. For whatever reason, injuries are happening more frequently this year than years past. If it happens that CMC does lift this offense, that's awesome, don't get me wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Wasn't that supposed to be Cook? It would come down to cost for me....If the P's wat a 1st or a 2nd....I say no way. But thats just me. Ofcourse that is supposed to be Cook. But he is a rook and we are ready for a Super Bowl run. The odds are (baring injury) that CMC gives us more this year than Cook. That’s entirely realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I feel this coming game will determine if we make a big trade or not. Close game either way then we may stand pat. Maybe if they see how we match up and our weakness vs it then they may consider a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: The reason i think the rumors are likely somewhat BS? When we initially explored the CMC trade, we didn't have Cook. Now we do - it kind of changes how much I'm willing to offer for a running back when i drafted a pass catching running back. We tried trading for Miller, that fell through, so we drafted 2 DEs. And then still brought in Miller when he was available. I'm thinking same here. We've called on CMC before, no deal, drafted Cook. That doesnt stop us from bringing in CMC. If anything, given how McD works, it makes it more likely since he likes having those vet tutors. And given how Beane works, he doesnt take 1 or even 2 players as being the solution. He likes to throw numbers at the problem areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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