Aurelius Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I trust Beane on this one. He’s a talent for sure. It means we’d be moving somebody as well. We are ready to win now and our future lies with Josh Allen. Give him every tool to succeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Imagine if we only had to give up James cook and next years 3rd round pick for him! Go Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Might need to edit my previous statement. I thought he’d be a lot more expensive than this. I don't follow the logic behind Greg Tompsett's statement that McCaffrey would have "every incentive" to negotiate a "team friendly" deal. I would think he'd be more like "OK, cut me and we'll try my market as a FA" especially if he just demonstrated his worth as a key addition to push a team over the top to winning the Superbowl. Edited October 10, 2022 by Beck Water 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Beck Water said: OK, but my point is - it isn't a 1 year rental for $600k. It's a 1 year rental for $600k plus whatever draft and player resources we send away to obtain him. One POV is "it's worth it - whatever it takes - sell off what you need to sell to get that final piece". I'm not sure that's Beane's POV (for better or worse). Sure. But that also plays into what we offer in negotiations. Obviously if we trade a 1st then we are over a barrel with having to re-sign him (a la Texans/Tunsil), but I doubt Beane does that. If it is a 4th rounder... I can eat that for a one year rental who helps get us a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned; what OL line is he going to run behind? We can't open holes as it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, NeverOutNick said: Imagine if we only had to give up James cook and next years 3rd round pick for him! Go Bills I think you have to incentivize Carolina somehow to eat $27M of dead cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: OK, but my point is - it isn't a 1 year rental for $600k. It's a 1 year rental for $600k plus whatever draft and player resources we send away to obtain him. One POV is "it's worth it - whatever it takes - sell off what you need to sell to get that final piece". I'm not sure that's Beane's POV (for better or worse). The nice thing about the 1 year rental, and an approach the rams always seem to take, even if you don't sign him the following year you will usually get a nice comp pick in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I don't follow the logic behind Greg Tompsett's statement that McCaffrey would have "every incentive" to negotiate a "team friendly" deal. I would think he'd be more like "OK, cut me and we'll try my market as a FA" especially if he just demonstrated his worth as a key addition to push a team over the top to winning the Superbowl. Meaning he probably wont see another ridiculous contract like the Panthers offered him even in Free Agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Sure. But that also plays into what we offer in negotiations. Obviously if we trade a 1st then we are over a barrel with having to re-sign him (a la Texans/Tunsil), but I doubt Beane does that. If it is a 4th rounder... I can eat that for a one year rental who helps get us a SB. If you're Carolina, do you accept a 4th rounder to trade off one of (if not your) best players, and swallow $27M dead cap? People need to look at this from the trade partner "what exactly do I get out of this?" POV 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Wo-Bah said: I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned; what OL line is he going to run behind? We can't open holes as it is. He'll be catching passes from Josh Allen, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Meaning he probably wont see another ridiculous contract like the Panthers offered him even in Free Agency. You could well be right. But I'm yearly astounded by what gets offered in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: If it is a 4th rounder... I can eat that for a one year rental who helps get us a SB. So no one else will better our bottom 4th round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Wo-Bah said: I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned; what OL line is he going to run behind? We can't open holes as it is. You know he is pretty good at catching the ball as well right? You cant fix everything at once, but if you can get a talent like him you go and get him. He is quietly on pace for 1700 total yards this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: The nice thing about the 1 year rental, and an approach the rams always seem to take, even if you don't sign him the following year you will usually get a nice comp pick in return. His contract has term so you get no actual comp pick. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: If you're Carolina, do you accept a 4th rounder to trade off one of (if not your) best players, and swallow $27M dead cap? People need to look at this from the trade partner "what exactly do I get out of this?" POV I don’t think some people understand that typically both parties need to be happy … in their minds it’s all about how things will work out solely to benefit the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The acquiring team is only on the hook for an apprx 600k this season Well ***** Brandon .... gir 'er done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: You know he is pretty good at catching the ball as well right? You cant fix everything at once, but if you can get a talent like him you go and get him. He is quietly on pace for 1700 total yards this year. He's about as productive as our trio across the same number of carries FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: If you bringh up Zack Moss' name in the trade, the deal will be off immediatley. We can't even trade Moss for a bag of rocks. We’re gonna have to sneak him in like laws inside a bill. Printed in fine print at the bottom and mixed inside like 4 different sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said: I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned; what OL line is he going to run behind? We can't open holes as it is. The one we have. Some simple adjustments like last year and the OL will be fine. But he’s like another WR on the field so it really doesn’t matter. He’ll do as much damage in the air as on the ground for us. Doesn’t matter how they use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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