Logic Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) I know, I know -- it's early, and you'll say I'm jumping the gun. I don't care. I've seen enough: Khalil Shakir should be the starting slot receiver going forward, even when McKenzie and Crowder return to full health. At the very least, he should be splitting reps with McKenzie and seeing more playing time than Jamison Crowder. He runs great routes. He constantly seems to get open. He has relatively sure hands (one bad concentration drop yesterday not withstanding). He offers run-after-catch ability that this offense often lacks. He has the frame and build to withstand the tough over-the-middle work. Aside from all of that, he just passes the eyeball test in a way that the Bills' other two slot options do not. Frankly, he looks like a star in the making. I love McKenzie as a player and am glad he's on the roster, but has he looked like a dynamic full time slot option to anyone over the first four games? He hasn't looked that way to me. I like Crowder, too. He's a solid, dependable veteran depth option. Again, though: he doesn't seem to pop off the screen the way Shakir was. I have figured all along that Shakir would be brought along slowly, that he'd be more of a contender for starting duties in 2023 or 2024. Given McDermott's M.O., that still may happen. I don't think it should, though. I've seen enough. He's the best option to start in the slot. The coaches always preach getting the best players on the field, regardless of tenure or pedigree. If they're true to their word, Shakir should start seeing more opportunities. I hope he does. Edited October 10, 2022 by Logic 17 20 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I don't even know that this is such a hot take. Kid is good. Play him. 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 This is exactly the problem I was hoping we’d have once he stood out in preseason games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Not a hot take, common sense just looking at ability. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) I don't think it's a hot take. Crowder is going to be out for awhile and Shakir gives you more playmaking after the catch. McKenzie and Shakir inside will give teams problems. Edited October 10, 2022 by Royale with Cheese 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I don't see this as a hot take...Shakir can be special. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Bills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Agreed. I think the staff believed hands were the only question holding him back (along with experience). I think Josh trusts him and he’s believing in himself. He makes the offense more dynamic. I’m sold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BidsJr Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The way he plays and moves, I see a lot of Andre Reed in him. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I agree 100%. He’s at a different level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Kid has defintiely earned playing time. Crowder wont be back anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I'm not going to just bench Mckenzie forever - its a fluid spot as it was before. Some games it might be a shakir, others mckenzie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Why can’t they both play? They have different skill sets that just makes our offense even more dynamic. Why is it always one or the other? Edited October 10, 2022 by GolfandBills 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He seems to have that intuitive feel that Beasley displayed with better speed and YAC ability. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Hard to say because I think they arent similar players. I like Shakir down the field and I like Mckenzie running across the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Logic said: I know, I know -- it's early, and you'll say I'm jumping the gun. I don't care. I've seen enough: Khalil Shakir should be the starting slot receiver going forward, even when McKenzie and Crowder return to full health. At the very least, he should be splitting reps with McKenzie and seeing more playing time than Jamison Crowder. Er....did you miss that Jamison Crowder just went on IR with a broken foot? So it's a damned sure bet that Shakir will see more time than Jamison Crowder going forward. Shakir is ahead of Hodgins on the depth chart and will get snaps going forward. I think he did well, and likely earned himself at least a split in time with McKenzie. He seems to be picking up the blocking, which is a huge step. McKenzie is a willing blocker but you can't coach F = ma or height/reach and McKenzie is lacking in the m component there as well as the height/reach. The drop, and 3 receptions on 5 targets against backup DBs don't anoint Shakir as the starter. Put against that he looked a bit lost vs. Tennessee and got blanked. McKenzie may be in McDermott's Doghouse though, for his show where he said all the stuff about being unable to move and etc. which I'm sure led to him being ruled out this week. I swear that guy is his own worst enemy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I’m a fan heres another hot take: Moss should not get anymore touches 3 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Somehow I doubt this "hot take" gonna get much push back -- Shakir's a baller and has looked the part every chance he's gotten. Plus it's bout time one of these preseason TBD darlings actually panned out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Logic said: I know, I know -- it's early, and you'll say I'm jumping the gun. I don't care. I've seen enough: Khalil Shakir should be the starting slot receiver going forward, even when McKenzie and Crowder return to full health. At the very least, he should be splitting reps with McKenzie and seeing more playing time than Jamison Crowder. He runs great routes. He constantly seems to get open. He has relatively sure hands (one bad concentration drop yesterday not withstanding). He offers run-after-catch ability that this offense often lacks. He has the frame and build to withstand the tough over-the-middle work. Aside from all of that, he just passes the eyeball test in a way that the Bills' other two slot options do not. Frankly, he looks like a star in the making. I love McKenzie as a player and am glad he's on the roster, but has he looked like a dynamic full time slot option to anyone over the first four games? He hasn't looked that way to me. I like Crowder, too. He's a solid, dependable veteran depth option. Again, though: he doesn't seem to pop off the screen the way Shakir was. I have figured all along that Shakir would be brought along slowly, that he'd be more of a contender for starting duties in 2023 or 2024. Given McDermott's M.O., that still may happen. I don't think it should, though. I've seen enough. He's the best option to start in the slot. The coaches always preach getting the best players on the field, regardless of tenure or pedigree. If they're true to their word, Shakir should start seeing more opportunities. I hope he does. Like Gabe Davis, you saw his ability to separate from the first preseason game. It has translated against the starters. If the Bills are finally in the mind-set of Super Bowl or nothing, then I agree, no more holding players back just because they are young so that worn out veterans can play. Nothing against Jamison Crowder, but that's why his injury was a blessing in disguise, it took away the excuses. Diggs and Davis never come off the field, but I agree that Shakir can now rotate in with McKenzie, pushing Kumerow down the depth chart, and he's a good WR in his own right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He made the most of every touch these last two games. Always getting more yards than I expected on any given play, from the return, RAC, going up to get that seam route. Just rose to the occasion every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I'm not going to just bench Mckenzie forever - its a fluid spot as it was before. Some games it might be a shakir, others mckenzie. It's likely to be both, splitting snaps, the way Crowder and McKenzie did. The exact split will shift from game to game and depend upon the savvy Shakir demonstrates at filling Crowder's "find the gaps in the zone" role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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