MarlinTheMagician Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 There was ten seconds left when McKenzie went down. He tried to run the ball to the ref and a Dolphin slowed him for a second. I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? If Josh had spiked it, I think Bass would have drilled the winner from 60 yards. Of course, we will never know. So help me out board, were the refs slow on getting the ball down there? Or we just cut it too close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGORDO Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Yawn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I was watching the ref spot the ball and rush out of the way of the center and OL and thought he was doing a pretty solid job of quickly his job and then getting the heck out of the way. There may have been some slowness leading up to that somewhere... But this loss has nothing to do with how quick the ball was spotted! We greatly outplayed Miami all day long, just didn't convert that into points. If we had, we could have won in any one of a bunch of different ways, by different scores. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Fair enough. But I think teams probably know what is considered "just enough" - anybody know what that is? Do you usually get a chance to spike it if player is down with 10 seconds left, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 OP, I think you are correct that they could have gotten the spike with 10 seconds left. Problem is, McKenzie pops up with 8 seconds left. McKenzie is very much still running with the ball at the 10 second mark. I disagree though that Bass would have made it from 60. 4 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Fair enough. But I think teams probably know what is considered "just enough" - anybody know what that is? Do you usually get a chance to spike it if player is down with 10 seconds left, or no? If you watch the video I think you can conclude the Bills would have spiked it just in time if they had 10 seconds. But they had 8 seconds by the time McKenzie gets up. In fact, McKenzie is on one knee in the act of getting up at 8 seconds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 There were a lot of "if's" in this game, any one of them going the other way would have meant a W for the Bills. One thing is for sure, if the Bills were to pull that game out at the end, it would have been a soul-crushing defeat for Miami.....one that could have affected them for the rest of the season. I actually found it very admirable how hard the under-manned Bills fought just to have a chance to steal it at the end. The Bills would have crushed Miami if they were fully healthy, and not playing in 100+ degree heat index weather. Lets hope the Bills get healthy quickly, and get back to dominating teams as soon as possible!! Go Bills!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? At this point, 10 seconds is probably about the extreme outside limit of how fast any team can be realistically expected to clock a snap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It wasn't 10 seconds. It was 9 maybe even closer to 8 as others have posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It was 8 seconds. And Bass would’ve missed again anyway. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 More concerned about poor officiating all day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Even if they were slow, the Bills never should’ve let it come down to that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: More concerned about poor officiating all day. Fans will one day realize that officiating is subjective and there will be mistakes made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BGORDO said: Yawn. You use that as one of your 19 posts? 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I was watching the ref spot the ball and rush out of the way of the center and OL and thought he was doing a pretty solid job of quickly his job and then getting the heck out of the way. There may have been some slowness leading up to that somewhere... But this loss has nothing to do with how quick the ball was spotted! We greatly outplayed Miami all day long, just didn't convert that into points. If we had, we could have won in any one of a bunch of different ways, by different scores. I originally thought that the ref was taking his time but when I went back and took a look at it again he was not the fact of the matter is the past play took too long for the receiver to get down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 This was not a problem. The Refs were not slow on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Fans will one day realize that officiating is subjective and there will be mistakes made. When will this happen? I'll be long in the ground i think... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: There was ten seconds left when McKenzie went down. He tried to run the ball to the ref and a Dolphin slowed him for a second. I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? If Josh had spiked it, I think Bass would have drilled the winner from 60 yards. Of course, we will never know. So help me out board, were the refs slow on getting the ball down there? Or we just cut it too close? Without that holding call just before this, it wouldn’t have even been a topic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: There was ten seconds left when McKenzie went down. He tried to run the ball to the ref and a Dolphin slowed him for a second. I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? If Josh had spiked it, I think Bass would have drilled the winner from 60 yards. Of course, we will never know. So help me out board, were the refs slow on getting the ball down there? Or we just cut it too close? It was just turning from 0:10 to 0:09 when he went down. He got his knee off the ground at 0:08. He ran towards the middle of the field and at 0:05, he threw it to the ref. At 0:04, the ref had it, but he was about halfway between the numbers and the hashes., and the Bills were still moving and couldn't know where to line up since the ball was still in the ref's hand. He moved quickly through a group of players and put it down at 0:01. Just not enough time. Sometimes 0:09 is enough, but McKenzie was way over by the sidelines and had a crowd to get through. 1 hour ago, Locomark said: Without that holding call just before this, it wouldn’t have even been a topic. Yeah, that was a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Locomark said: Without that holding call just before this, it wouldn’t have even been a topic. That holding was devastating. Yards and lost time there. Put them right behind the 8 ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 https://youtu.be/FDyqFMbukxQ?t=660 Here's the last few minutes of the game, cued up to the McKenzie run before he goes down, if you want to analyze it Zapruder style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: There was ten seconds left when McKenzie went down. He tried to run the ball to the ref and a Dolphin slowed him for a second. I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? If Josh had spiked it, I think Bass would have drilled the winner from 60 yards. Of course, we will never know. So help me out board, were the refs slow on getting the ball down there? Or we just cut it too close? The OL also took their sweet time getting to the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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