Big Turk Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) This is exceptionally impressive... Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season. I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss Edited September 14, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 True...but the last one having a variety of offensive turnovers dulls the shine of this trivia/stat. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: True...but the last one having a variety of offensive turnovers dulls the shine of this trivia/stat. Consider that other teams turn the ball over and still punt. Almost unheard of to not punt in a game regardless. Did it look like the Bills were going to have to punt if they didn't have the turnovers? Two of them happened well within FG range. Edited September 14, 2022 by Big Turk 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Consider that other teams turn the ball over and still punt. Almost unheard of to not punt in a game regardless. Did it look like the Bills were going to have to punt if they didn't have the turnovers? Two of them happened well within FG range. Can't disagree there. We were rolling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 ...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs... As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 There is no doubt that Josh Allen is absolutely in command of this offense and it shows though a stat like this. It’s almost unreal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: ...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs... As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip. Wouldn't a turn over, regardless of who it is caused by, often be worse than a punt? Even with 4 turnovers, I think our offense has the belief that they can always get a 1st down or a TD on any given play. Last year they punted 50 times, the Chiefs were lowest in the league at 38, I'm not a betting man but I'd take the under on the number of punts being under 38 for the year for our Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Klaus said: Wouldn't a turn over, regardless of who it is caused by, often be worse than a punt? Even with 4 turnovers, I think our offense has the belief that they can always get a 1st down or a TD on any given play. Last year they punted 50 times, the Chiefs were lowest in the league at 38, I'm not a betting man but I'd take the under on the number of punts being under 38 for the year for our Bills. There are situations in which a turnover is NOT worse than a punt...say, if a QB throws a deep INT from midfield on 3rd and long and the opponent thus starts inside their 10 rather than the offense having to punt. But those are rare. Typically a turnover is worse than a punt. Last Thursday the Bills' offense was rolling and it can be argued that if the turnovers did not occur they were in position to score. Bottom line: this offense is clicking. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Let’s keep it up but drop the TOs…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, Big Turk said: This is exceptionally impressive... Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season. I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss Some people would yell Moon 🌚 landing 😝 old news like from last Friday See Josh Allen records broken thread for many more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Some people would yell Moon 🌚 landing 😝 old news like from last Friday See Josh Allen records broken thread for many more Mods please move this if need be. IMO those two topics have nothing to do with each other, I should not be punished. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Mods please move this if need be. IMO those two topics have nothing to do with each other, I should not be punished. Sorry I FORGOT to use my Sarcasm don’t You are fine. It was just an FYI that’s all Edited September 14, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: You are fine. It was just an FYI that’s all When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records. What about adding no interceptions? It is great they are doing well without this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records. What about adding no interceptions? It is great they are doing well without this. without risk there is no reward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 PFF: "Why are the Bills hesitant to punt? These and other ST weaknesses exposed!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Limeaid said: When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records. What about adding no interceptions? It is great they are doing well without this. He had several of those as well going back to 2020 and 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 And as posted in the related thread, the interception to McKenzie happened at the 24 yard line whereas the fumble by Moss happened at the 16 yard line. There's no plausible scenario where those two drives end in punts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt ColonBlow Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Love the Bills. Only one stat that matters. Winning the super Bowl. Punting? Meh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Bills are like a real life Madden team with those no punts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Capt ColonBlow said: Love the Bills. Only one stat that matters. Winning the super Bowl. Punting? Meh.... If Bills punter punts doing a coffin corner kick which one of the special teams players catch on 1 yard like will you like punters? Moorman made punting fun! He also was hurdler like Josh Allen and made tacklers miss. Brian Moorman... master of the fake punt, fake field goal, dropped snap... First down machine! https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/brian-moorman-master-of-the-fake-punt-fake-field-goal-dropped-snap-first-down-ma/643924536210123/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: This is exceptionally impressive... Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season. I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss The K-Gun has given way to the superior P-None. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 It’s punt watch baby! Repeat in the home opener. I think we can do it again in Miami. That record will last if happens. It would be nice, but not as nice as the Lombardi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 'suse me while I kiss the sky......no punts. Wait - whats a punt??? GO BILLS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 ungodly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) So I ran some numbers from stat muse which has punting stats from 1946. In the Buffalo Bills NFL history(starting with the 1970 season), they have had 7 regular season games with no punts out of 811 NFL regular season games. 4 of them have occurred since 2020. The last time prior to Allen the Bills didn't punt was the famous 1992 "No Punt" game against San Fran where neither team punted, then prior to that in 1990 against the Colts. Only other time was in 1974 against the Patriots in a game they won 29-28. As good as the Kelly led Bills were offensively, they only accomplished this feat twice. Since 1946, there have been 27,608 regular season "team games" played(ie, 1 game = 2 "team games"). 149 teams have not punted in a game during that time, equating to a 0.5% chance that a team will not punt during a game. So for a 17 game season with 32 teams, equating to 544 "team" games, there should be 2.72 times during an entire season that a team doesn't punt in a game. The Bills nearly did this by themselves, not punting in 2 games. Since 2020, the Bills have not punted in a regular season game at an astonishing 11.8% pace(4 times in a 34 game span). According to the historical NFL average since 1946, it should have required 800 games for the Bills not to have punted in 4 games. In other words, the Bills are not punting at a pace 23.6 times the historical average in NFL history. This is mind boggling! Add in another one in the playoffs against NE and it becomes 5 times in 35 games and 4 within the last 6, which is almost unfathomable. Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 9/15/2022 at 11:30 AM, Big Turk said: So I ran some numbers from stat muse which has punting stats from 1946. In the Buffalo Bills NFL history(starting with the 1970 season), they have had 7 regular season games with no punts out of 811 NFL regular season games. 4 of them have occurred since 2020. The last time prior to Allen the Bills didn't punt was the famous 1992 "No Punt" game against San Fran where neither team punted, then prior to that in 1990 against the Colts. Only other time was in 1974 against the Patriots in a game they won 29-28. As good as the Kelly led Bills were offensively, they only accomplished this feat twice. Since 1946, there have been 27,608 regular season "team games" played(ie, 1 game = 2 "team games"). 149 teams have not punted in a game during that time, equating to a 0.5% chance that a team will not punt during a game. So for a 17 game season with 32 teams, equating to 544 "team" games, there should be 2.72 times during an entire season that a team doesn't punt in a game. The Bills nearly did this by themselves, not punting in 2 games. Since 2020, the Bills have not punted in a regular season game at an astonishing 11.8% pace(4 times in a 34 game span). According to the historical NFL average since 1946, it should have required 800 games for the Bills not to have punted in 4 games. In other words, the Bills are not punting at a pace 23.6 times the historical average in NFL history. This is mind boggling! Add in another one in the playoffs against NE and it becomes 5 times in 35 games and 4 within the last 6, which is almost unfathomable. Really well done and interesting to read, thank you! The league started going for it on fourth down and started frowning on punting from inside the 50 fairly recently. Any thoughts on how that might play into things? Ooh, any way to see the average yards per play from say 1990 compared to today? Going for it 4th and 6 seems like a better choice these days than it did in 1990 in terms of passing offense (or maybe rules)... or they could always try a 64 yard fg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 3:41 PM, eball said: ...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs... As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip. Do you know how many punts were in those last two punt games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Bills offense - Just replace Bo Jackson with Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 7:51 PM, Limeaid said: If Bills punter punts doing a coffin corner kick which one of the special teams players catch on 1 yard like will you like punters? Moorman made punting fun! He also was hurdler like Josh Allen and made tacklers miss. Brian Moorman... master of the fake punt, fake field goal, dropped snap... First down machine! https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/brian-moorman-master-of-the-fake-punt-fake-field-goal-dropped-snap-first-down-ma/643924536210123/ It is sad to think of how many highlights from the drought era have Moorman in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Punting is for losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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